What happened to the Fabled Water Dragon Faydedar?

[Mysticdraco]

<p>The one thing that made me miss EverQuest when Rise of Kunark came out was the lack of memorable places from the Timourus Deep. Those areas being the Firepot room(a giant sunken wizard spire that ported people to the respective home cities by means of clicking on a firepot), the giant fleet of ghost ships teathered together, The hidden fishing village with a somewhat nervous fisherman, and one notorious creature that had a way of scaring the bejesus out of me on multiple occasions of the murky deep known as Faydedar.</p><p>Needed for multiple quests that rewarded adventurers weapons of great power, I have to ask 'What ever happened to that bugger?"</p><p><img src="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id4470.png" width="472" height="158" /></p>

[Morghus]

<p>I was disappointed that he was nowhere to be found as well. The only reference to him I could find was that the dock area of Gorowyn is called Faydedar's watch or something to that effect.</p>

[Mysticdraco]

<p>Yeah I recall that as well... I remember exploring the crap out of that zone back in the day. I still don't have the story behind that band of teathered ships out in the middle of the ocean. I always wondered if they were perhaps part of an old Iksarian sailing fleet or perhaps a band of lost pirates. The place was eerily vacant.</p><p>Also was Faydedar on the Ring of Scale faction like most other Dragons or was he independent?</p>

[Morghus]

<p>Pretty sure he was indeed of the Ring of Scale.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p>Yep.. Ring of Scale.</p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=4470" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=4470</a></p><p>I imagine that the devs are just keeping him in reserve for later when they feel the need to add more raid content.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Who knows, maybe they'll add him as an X4 contested into Fens of Nathsar. The Lake of Ill Omen is connected to the ocean through underwater tunnels. Back in EQlive, Faydader showed up and wrecked havoc in the Lake of Ill Omen every once in a while.</p><p>I remember seeing him emerge from the shores myself.... twice.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Who knows, maybe they'll add him as an X4 contested into Fens of Nathsar. The Lake of Ill Omen is connected to the ocean through underwater tunnels. Back in EQlive, Faydader showed up and wrecked havoc in the Lake of Ill Omen every once in a while.</p><p>I remember seeing him emerge from the shores myself.... twice.</p></blockquote><p>They could always make that 4th island in TD live with Faydedar as the boss. </p><p>Or they could use him like the original EQ1 GMs used Mayong Mistmoore- GM events only.  Have him randomly attack any outdoor zone with water... like Antonica.  That would be fun, especially if he attacked the lighthouse dock. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Beghard]

<p>Sounds like a plan<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Meirril]

<p>Maybe all those druids finally farmed the dragon to death and he's not going to return? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Something has to have changed in 500 years!</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>maybe the Leviathan ate him?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>maybe the Leviathan ate him?</p></blockquote><p>The ring of Scale wouldn't let him live if he did that.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">He tasted like Tuna with a natual Sunflower oil seasoning. Yuuuummmmmmm!!! </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I do think they need to unblock that island, even if you have to dodge the circling Epic contested mob that pops up every once in a while. Since it looks like a large chunk of Luclin, maybe it has some caves with some survivors or undead from Luclin...</span></p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>It was originally going to be a newbie dungeon for Timorous Deep, but they didn't have enough time to put it in.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>well that really depends. I mean none of the Scale dragons outside of Fay himself were aquatic. and Levi may very well be able to go to depths only Fay could follow. We summon him to us in the Chamber though killing the Yah-lei. who knows how big or how far down he was before we see what we see of him.</p><p>Not like the Droag can get to him, or even if they could if they could hurt him. So it's not exactly unplausible to think that Fay was eaten/killed by a much, much larger leviathan</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>well that really depends. I mean none of the Scale dragons outside of Fay himself were aquatic. and Levi may very well be able to go to depths only Fay could follow. We summon him to us in the Chamber though killing the Yah-lei. who knows how big or how far down he was before we see what we see of him.</p><p>Not like the Droag can get to him, or even if they could if they could hurt him. So it's not exactly unplausible to think that Fay was eaten/killed by a much, much larger leviathan</p></blockquote><p>The Ring of Scale are powerful to the point where something like ocean depths would mean very little to them.  If something like the Leviathan was picking off dragons, they'd deal with it swiftly and severely.  Besides, I'd imagine the Claws of Veeshan, if they still exist, would eventually get involved if for some reason the Ring of Scale couldn't or wouldn't fix the problem.  The Claws of Veeshan would spank Levi like a bad little girl.  Faydedar wasn't the only water dragon on Norrath.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>well that really depends. I mean none of the Scale dragons outside of Fay himself were aquatic. and Levi may very well be able to go to depths only Fay could follow. We summon him to us in the Chamber though killing the Yah-lei. who knows how big or how far down he was before we see what we see of him.</p><p>Not like the Droag can get to him, or even if they could if they could hurt him. So it's not exactly unplausible to think that Fay was eaten/killed by a much, much larger leviathan</p></blockquote><p>The Ring of Scale are powerful to the point where something like ocean depths would mean very little to them.  If something like the Leviathan was picking off dragons, they'd deal with it swiftly and severely.  Besides, I'd imagine the Claws of Veeshan, if they still exist, would eventually get involved if for some reason the Ring of Scale couldn't or wouldn't fix the problem.  The Claws of Veeshan would spank Levi like a bad little girl.  Faydedar wasn't the only water dragon on Norrath.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah the Claws had at least 3 or 4 sea dragons.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>well that really depends. I mean none of the Scale dragons outside of Fay himself were aquatic. and Levi may very well be able to go to depths only Fay could follow. We summon him to us in the Chamber though killing the Yah-lei. who knows how big or how far down he was before we see what we see of him.</p><p>Not like the Droag can get to him, or even if they could if they could hurt him. So it's not exactly unplausible to think that Fay was eaten/killed by a much, much larger leviathan</p></blockquote><p>The Ring of Scale are powerful to the point where something like ocean depths would mean very little to them.  If something like the Leviathan was picking off dragons, they'd deal with it swiftly and severely.  Besides, I'd imagine the Claws of Veeshan, if they still exist, would eventually get involved if for some reason the Ring of Scale couldn't or wouldn't fix the problem.  The Claws of Veeshan would spank Levi like a bad little girl.  Faydedar wasn't the only water dragon on Norrath.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah the Claws had at least 3 or 4 sea dragons.</p></blockquote><p>One of which is a Dar.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6603" target="_blank">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=6603</a></p><p><a href="http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6492" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/s...h.shtml?id=6492</a></p>

[Rainmare]

<p>true, the Claws might have the advantage there. but the Claws and the Scale liason is also dead. the corpse is outside the Danak battlement. so for all we know the Ring and Claws don't have any line of communication.</p><p>Trakanon doesn't strike me as the kind to care about Fay since the water dragon doesn't/hasn't resided with the Peak itself, but out in the waters around Kunark. not to mention that Harla, Gore, Talendor were also Ring members, but no one noticed the Ring put up much a fuss when they all joined the Kera cult.</p><p>I think for Trak it's more an 'out of sight, out of mind' type deal. he's not going to waste time hunting down or trying to find out what's going on with Fay or Sev or those in the Kera Cult, since he's got bigger direct problems like the Sathirian Empire. I mean we haven't heard of any replacements for the dragon liason yet, either. you'd think that might be a bigger priority with a war going on to be able to call or ask for aid.</p><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p>

[Morghus]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p></blockquote><p>He will probably be in for a nasty surprise when he resurfaces and discovers that the entire Ring including Trakanon is dead. I still find it a bit humorous that despite having to kill all the other dragons in Veeshan's Peak to even enter his lair, when Trakanon is killed he states, "The Ring of Scale will avenge me!".</p><p>That in itself is a little suspicious since there is never any explanation as to how he became its leader or cured the undead-like state he was in. I have heard that he took control by force but if that were so why would he believe the other dragons would really avenge him?</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>true, the Claws might have the advantage there. but the Claws and the Scale liason is also dead. the corpse is outside the Danak battlement. so for all we know the Ring and Claws don't have any line of communication.</p><p>Trakanon doesn't strike me as the kind to care about Fay since the water dragon doesn't/hasn't resided with the Peak itself, but out in the waters around Kunark. not to mention that Harla, Gore, Talendor were also Ring members, but no one noticed the Ring put up much a fuss when they all joined the Kera cult.</p><p>I think for Trak it's more an 'out of sight, out of mind' type deal. he's not going to waste time hunting down or trying to find out what's going on with Fay or Sev or those in the Kera Cult, since he's got bigger direct problems like the Sathirian Empire. I mean we haven't heard of any replacements for the dragon liason yet, either. you'd think that might be a bigger priority with a war going on to be able to call or ask for aid.</p><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p></blockquote><p>The dragons who formed the Cult of the Awakened effectively left Norrath for a time.. The Claws of Veeshan saw dragons defect from them as well.  I'd imagine Trakanon cares very much was Sev is doing, since Sev is labeled with the title "Agent of Trakanon".  Maybe Faydedar is the same?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>true, the Claws might have the advantage there. but the Claws and the Scale liason is also dead. the corpse is outside the Danak battlement. so for all we know the Ring and Claws don't have any line of communication.</p><p>Trakanon doesn't strike me as the kind to care about Fay since the water dragon doesn't/hasn't resided with the Peak itself, but out in the waters around Kunark. not to mention that Harla, Gore, Talendor were also Ring members, but no one noticed the Ring put up much a fuss when they all joined the Kera cult.</p><p>I think for Trak it's more an 'out of sight, out of mind' type deal. he's not going to waste time hunting down or trying to find out what's going on with Fay or Sev or those in the Kera Cult, since he's got bigger direct problems like the Sathirian Empire. I mean we haven't heard of any replacements for the dragon liason yet, either. you'd think that might be a bigger priority with a war going on to be able to call or ask for aid.</p><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p></blockquote><p>The dragons who formed the Cult of the Awakened effectively left Norrath for a time.. The Claws of Veeshan saw dragons defect from them as well.  I'd imagine Trakanon cares very much was Sev is doing, since Sev is labeled with the title "Agent of Trakanon".  Maybe Faydedar is the same?</p></blockquote><p>On top of that, nly Talendor and Gorenaire were members of the Ring. Harla and Lord Vyemm are Claws.</p>

[teddyboy4]

<p><cite>Morghus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p></blockquote><p>He will probably be in for a nasty surprise when he resurfaces and discovers that the entire Ring including Trakanon is dead. I still find it a bit humorous that despite having to kill all the other dragons in Veeshan's Peak to even enter his lair, when Trakanon is killed he states, "The Ring of Scale will avenge me!".</p><p>That in itself is a little suspicious since <strong>there is never any explanation as to how he became its leader or cured the undead-like state he was in. I have heard that he took control by force</strong> but if that were so why would he believe the other dragons would really avenge him?</p></blockquote><p>A guildie and I were talking about this very thing the other day and he mentioned that he read somewhere that Venril and Trak had made a deal...</p><p>For Venril's part he would remove the curse of Undeath from Trak, and help restore him to his pre-cursed, living state if Trak would vacate Sebilis, halt his war w/ the Iksar temporarily, go to VP and reign in the Ring of Scale to keep them off Venril's back for awhile so Venril could start the rebuilding of his empire. Of course, Trak jumped at the offer, being excited at the possibility of being released from the curse and finally able get out of Sebilis, but also to finally get revenge on the Ring for abandoning him and not helping him in his campaign against the Iksar. And that brings us to where we are now...Venril's empire is growing strong once again with him sitting on his Emperor's Throne in Sebilis, with his sons, all very powerful Iksar and former Emperor's themselves, serving him as his Generals/Governors, and Trak sitting in the peak of Veeshan's Peak, having disposed of those that opposed him, and ruling over the Ring w/ an iron claw.</p><p>Keep in mind though that Venril and Trak didn't form an alliance, or anything like that, they just made a deal that was equally beneficial to both of them, and afterwords whatever happens, happens. If the Iksar cross the Ring, or vice-versa, it's on once again. there are no loyalties, and there certainly is no love lost between those two.</p><p>Now, again this is hear-say, I have never seen this mentioned in-game, so I can't judge the veracity of these claims, and I can't say that this is what actually happened, but it certainly does make a lot of sense and all the pieces seem to fit, so I figured I'd throw it out there.</p>

[LordPazuzu]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>true, the Claws might have the advantage there. but the Claws and the Scale liason is also dead. the corpse is outside the Danak battlement. so for all we know the Ring and Claws don't have any line of communication.</p><p>Trakanon doesn't strike me as the kind to care about Fay since the water dragon doesn't/hasn't resided with the Peak itself, but out in the waters around Kunark. not to mention that Harla, Gore, Talendor were also Ring members, but no one noticed the Ring put up much a fuss when they all joined the Kera cult.</p><p>I think for Trak it's more an 'out of sight, out of mind' type deal. he's not going to waste time hunting down or trying to find out what's going on with Fay or Sev or those in the Kera Cult, since he's got bigger direct problems like the Sathirian Empire. I mean we haven't heard of any replacements for the dragon liason yet, either. you'd think that might be a bigger priority with a war going on to be able to call or ask for aid.</p><p>Now I don't really think that the Leviathan ate Fay. but it is a possibility that it happened, which is why Fay is absent. Or with the Rending and the Yah-lei and all this going on Fay as enough to occupy him under the waves rather then above them. heck for all we know Fay is dominating, marshalling an empire of Yah-lei to his service to aid the Ring against the Empire.</p></blockquote><p>The dragons who formed the Cult of the Awakened effectively left Norrath for a time.. The Claws of Veeshan saw dragons defect from them as well.  I'd imagine Trakanon cares very much was Sev is doing, since Sev is labeled with the title "Agent of Trakanon".  Maybe Faydedar is the same?</p></blockquote><p>On top of that, nly Talendor and Gorenaire were members of the Ring. Harla and Lord Vyemm are Claws.</p></blockquote><p>So did Lord Vyemm contract cancer of the jaw or what?</p><p><a href="http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id6565.png" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://common.allakhazam.com/images/i/d/id6565.png</a></p><p><a href="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/192991147_afae02f165.jpg" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://farm1.static.flickr.com/55/1..._afae02f165.jpg</a></p>

[Chulanowa]

<p>When you're standing on the docksat Gorowyn, do you see the gigantic freaking rock that's way out in the water?</p><p>There's your wizard spires. From what I can see of it, it has a similar glyph on it to the old EQ wizard spires. Yes, it's freaking huge - But it  was also on hte bottom of the ocean, so... No telling what the combine had going there, huh?</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Emelli@Befallen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>When you're standing on the docksat Gorowyn, do you see the gigantic freaking rock that's way out in the water?</p><p>There's your wizard spires. From what I can see of it, it has a similar glyph on it to the old EQ wizard spires. Yes, it's freaking huge - But it  was also on hte bottom of the ocean, so... No telling what the combine had going there, huh?</p></blockquote><p>Seru needs boats! (play Mojo Nixxon's "Elvis is Everywhere" to set the mood.)</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>I don't think Venril and Trakanon would be making deals. Trakanon hates Iksars, and powerful as Venril is, I don't think he was/is able to take on Trak one on one. I was under the impression that Trak's restoration had something to do with the Stone of Destiny aka the Chelsith stone.</p><p>Trak is still at war with the Empire, as you can see from the constant assualts on the Ganak battlement. and he's even against the sarnak empire, shown by droag assaults in Chardok.</p>

[teddyboy4]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I don't think Venril and Trakanon would be making deals. Trakanon hates Iksars, and powerful as Venril is, I don't think he was/is able to take on Trak one on one. I was under the impression that Trak's restoration had something to do with the Stone of Destiny aka the Chelsith stone.</p><p>Trak is still at war with the Empire, as you can see from the constant assualts on the Ganak battlement. and he's even against the sarnak empire, shown by droag assaults in Chardok.</p></blockquote><p>This doesn't really prove anything though.</p><p>Yes, Trak hates the Iksar, and vice-versa, but keep in mind who we're talking about here. Both Venril and Trak would do ANYTHING neccessary to be restored to power, or to get revenge, including making temporary deals and alliances with their most hated foes if it was a means to their own ends. As for Trak attacking the Empire, well of course he would start that again eventually, like I said, their deal would be temporary, and would only serve both's most immedeate needs, for Venril that was retaking Sebilis to start rebuilding his Empire, and for Trak it was getting freed from the curse that kept him stuck in Sebilis for so long and to take revenge on the members of the Ring that he felt betrayed him by not joining his side and helping him destroy the Iksar. Each of their goals were accomplished, the deal was fulfilled on both ends, and things reverted to how they would be....Trak ordering raids on the Iksar and ruling the Ring w/ a Iron claw, and Venril rebuilding, and ruling his Empire to restore it to the glory of bygone years.</p><p>It's totally plausible IMHO. Again, I'm not saying this is what happened, just something I had heard and that seemed to fit.</p>