Buffing assignment [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Viethiel

06-08-2009, 01:34 PM

Who should get what buff? I usually full load the tank, but are there buffs that other classes would get greater benefit in having me put it on them?Who gets Mana Cure? A spell caster? I've read that Mana Cure is broken...how so?In PUGs I usually fully buff the tank...sometimes I have a spare buff to hand out. Should I put Glory on a DPS or off tank?Thanks in advance!

RingleToo

06-08-2009, 02:29 PM

As a general rule: buff the tank with Aegolism and stoneskin and Shield Ally if you have that. I always put Virtue on myself. Glory goes on dps. If there are spare buffs, Aegolism on other melee classes.Depending on group make-up, especially if other healers in the group, I'll opt to use Aegolism on melee classes instead of using Glory. While that's a tough call, I slighty prefer Aegolism over Glory (depending on situation of course) only because Aegolism always works while Glory has a good chance not to.

Arturoz

06-08-2009, 06:07 PM

<cite>RingleToo wrote:</cite><blockquote>As a general rule: buff the tank with Aegolism and stoneskin and Shield Ally if you have that. I always put Virtue on myself. Glory goes on dps. If there are spare buffs, Aegolism on other melee classes.Depending on group make-up, especially if other healers in the group, I'll opt to use Aegolism on melee classes instead of using Glory. While that's a tough call, I slighty prefer Aegolism over Glory (depending on situation of course) only because Aegolism always works while Glory has a good chance not to.</blockquote>/em looks at templar mythical /giggles about buffing the tank.. ya i cant imagine how hard it is to buff a group without the mythical /huggles the mythical what used to be a bugger to buff now is simple group buffs check my buff check two buffs on tank.. check two buffs on dps check.. done..

Viethiel

06-09-2009, 01:30 PM

<cite>X-NYDOTer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>RingleToo wrote:</cite><blockquote>As a general rule: buff the tank with Aegolism and stoneskin and Shield Ally if you have that. I always put Virtue on myself. Glory goes on dps. If there are spare buffs, Aegolism on other melee classes.Depending on group make-up, especially if other healers in the group, I'll opt to use Aegolism on melee classes instead of using Glory. While that's a tough call, I slighty prefer Aegolism over Glory (depending on situation of course) only because Aegolism always works while Glory has a good chance not to.</blockquote>/em looks at templar mythical /giggles about buffing the tank.. ya i cant imagine how hard it is to buff a group without the mythical /huggles the mythical what used to be a bugger to buff now is simple group buffs check my buff check two buffs on tank.. check two buffs on dps check.. done..</blockquote>Thanks for the comments, RingleToo! Now you've gone made me jealous <a></a>X-NYDOTer! LOL...oh...I can't wait to get my Mythical! (I'm still working on my Epic...but I'll get there someday!)

RingleToo

06-10-2009, 11:47 AM

<cite>X-NYDOTer wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>RingleToo wrote:</cite><blockquote>As a general rule: buff the tank with Aegolism and stoneskin and Shield Ally if you have that. I always put Virtue on myself. Glory goes on dps. If there are spare buffs, Aegolism on other melee classes.Depending on group make-up, especially if other healers in the group, I'll opt to use Aegolism on melee classes instead of using Glory. While that's a tough call, I slighty prefer Aegolism over Glory (depending on situation of course) only because Aegolism always works while Glory has a good chance not to.</blockquote>/em looks at templar mythical /giggles about buffing the tank.. ya i cant imagine how hard it is to buff a group without the mythical /huggles the mythical what used to be a bugger to buff now is simple group buffs check my buff check two buffs on tank.. check two buffs on dps check.. done..</blockquote>Thbbbbbt! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />

Menludar

06-17-2009, 12:01 PM

Unless you are having difficulty healing, virtue is better on melee dps/tank... unless ofcourse you are dpsing and want to keep that str <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> if you don't have myth, put aegolism on MT and load up on Glories after that. Drop Symbol for an extra glory when arcane resists aren't needed. You'll find for most of the easier grp content that Mark + glory will do 50%+ of your healing zw if done right (does for me anyway), leaving you free to dps. Hell, I've done CoA without 'casting' a single heal <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

CuCullain

06-18-2009, 04:23 PM

This question is relative to the company you keep TBHm assuming you play with people that know their classes.....Most use Virtue on themselves as most that would beneft from +Str already have super high STRIf you don't have your mytchial you'll be using Aegolism on the tank and maybe yourself for the +HPWith a con left I'd put glory on the tank, he is always the most likely to be on the mob and most tanks hit a lot in combatIf you have your mythical you have an extra con slot, put the other one to use as glory again and have it on a melee DPS in your grp.The rest should be obvious.

Antryg Mistrose

06-20-2009, 01:48 AM

<cite>Faush@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>This question is relative to the company you keep TBHm assuming you play with people that know their classes.....Most use Virtue on themselves as most that would beneft from +Str already have super high STRThen "Most" is wrong. Cap on str is 1300odd last I checked. Any melee class incuding the tank gets more from it, higher hit rates, better multipliers means they get more out of it. The extra WIS - well "most that would benefit from +Wis already have super high WIS" no? Well if you get much from it, you need better gear. The tank on the other hand gets a bump to resists (small be noticable), and its very few tanks that are anything close to the cap on WIS.If you don't have your mytchial you'll be using Aegolism on the tank and maybe yourself for the +HPTank yes, after that whoever has the lowest HP. Although it used to be the nice thing to put on a bard who didn't have great skill modifiers. You a) don't need it as your HP should be the 2nd highest in the group and b) Still won't hit the side of a barn even with the skill modifierWith a con left I'd put glory on the tank, he is always the most likely to be on the mob and most tanks hit a lot in combatTanks in duel wielding in offensive stance hit pretty well (note the 2 conditions which preclude hard content), but scouts hit betterIf you have your mythical you have an extra con slot, put the other one to use as glory again and have it on a melee DPS in your grp.The rest should be obvious.I thought it all was /shrug</blockquote>I'm not sure we play the same game.

Arielle Nightshade

07-03-2009, 04:56 AM

Glory on fast and hard hitting melee dps means free yummy heals. I'd buff the tank with it if there was only one scout in the group. Tank gets aegolism for sure and the next person to get it is the lowest HP person..which is almost always a caster. Its in your best interest to keep, say, the coercer alive. This isn't an issue if you have your mythical, since it makes Aegolism groupwide.Virtue goes on the tank for the extra WIS, if nothing else, but some can benefit from having the STR, at least till they get better gear.You'd be buffing yourself with it for....? The ability to carry more loot out of the zone? You might be able to use the WIS, but the amount it helps you is usually way less than the benefit from giving it to the tank.I'm not sure about Mana Cure, because Ive never really seen it successfully work so I spec'd out of it. I'd be willing to try it again if there was empirical evidence that it was a good thing.Theoretically, you'd want to put mana cure on the person doing the kind of damage that was the worst in the fight. For example, the mob is constantly putting a nasty disease dot on you that is a pain to cure...put Mana cure on the disease-dealing Necro. If it's elemental, a wizard, trauma a melee dps or the tank. You'd want to put it on someone that was constantly casting damage for better chances to proc vs. say...a noxious casting Defiler. In a lot of fights, they are so busy warding and healing that they might get few chances to debuff or damage. Again, this is what I imagine - never saw it work and am more than willing to hear how it actually does <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

ashen1973

07-05-2009, 07:54 AM

I specc'd into mana-cure a couple of weeks ago, just to try it out. It does seem to work quite well for spell damage types (nox, elem, mag) but I have yet to see it work when putting it on a melee class to cure trauma. i have had good results when putting it on Nox - Warlock>Necro Elem - Wizard>ConjArcane - Illy>CoercerDivine - Templar>Inq (assuming non-MT healer)

Antryg Mistrose

07-05-2009, 10:47 PM

For you to get Trauma group cures from Manacure I think you'd have to put it on someone like a brigand, as I very much doubt it triggers off autoattack.WTB Wizard to put it on for Digg fight .....

ashen1973

07-07-2009, 03:08 PM

<cite>Antryg Mistrose wrote:</cite><blockquote>For you to get Trauma group cures from Manacure I think you'd have to put it on someone like a brigand, as I very much doubt it triggers off autoattack.WTB Wizard to put it on for Digg fight .....</blockquote>I haven't had an opportunity to try it on a Brigand yet (generally always on a Warlock or necro when raiding as the shout of 'Cure Nox!!' seems to be the most used <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />), have tried it on a Swashy in groups quite a few times though (as well as a Ranger) and not seen it work once. I will try it on a Brig next time i get the chance.

Perrigrin

07-08-2009, 10:38 PM

Before I was Mythed, it would depend on what classes were in my group, and also depending on how the aggro was controlled (or not controlled). If I found myself having to heal several people in the group I'd put 2 Glories out there, 1 on the tank and the other on a scout (brawlers are awesome targets for Glory btw). If heals weren't an issue then I would have 1 Glory (on the tank) and 2 Aegolisms (1 on the tank, and the other on the person who would most likely rip aggro from the tank, i.e. a non-hate transfer scout, or caster DPS). Putting the other aego on the one with the lowest HP is ok, but really it won't do them much good if they're not getting hit in the first place.Virtue I normally put on the tank, not for the STR but for the extra WIS to increase their resists a bit. My wisdom is already over 1k, I don't need it on me, and let's face it Templars aren't exactly known for our dps, melee or otherwise.Mana Cure all depends on what type of mobs you're fighting and what classes you have in your group. If the mobs are casting nox, put it on a necro, shadowknight, warlock or dirge. Arcane, put it on your illusionist or coercer. Like others have said, I also haven't really found a good one for trauma cures thus far =.

raxerex

07-09-2009, 04:40 PM

<div>The options where to put buffs are limited in a group, a raid is a bit different if you are not in the MT group, soloing put them all on you.. </div><div> </div><div>Aegolism, should go to the MT OR the toon that will rip argo from tank. if myth'ed its a group buff nothing to worry about</div><div> </div><div>Virtue, should go on the MT or the off tank as the STR & WIS will help them more than the WIS alone will help you.</div><div> </div><div>Glory, should go to the fast melee dps class, a swash or assassin (I call it whack a heal) i put it on the MT if there is no other toon to put it on.</div><div> </div><div>Unyielding Benediction, goes on the MT</div><div> </div><div>Shield Ally, goes on the MT, no questions. the avoidence passed on to the tank can modified by incressing your avoidence by making sure you are at rank 8 and the gear / adorments you have.</div><div> </div><div>Mana Cure, this depends on the fight, in the Digg fight the Wiz gets it. does it help? idk.. </div><div></div><div>R-</div>