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crumpledmonkey
06-02-2009, 05:57 PM
<p>from test update notes:</p><p>disabling combat xp will no longer convert combat xp to aaxp.</p><p>is this at lvl 80 only? i hope.</p><p>because now when we lock at lower lvls to get more aa before we out lvl an area, we will not be getting the aaxp we were trying to get in the first place. and please dont say just leave combat xp on because at lower lvls you will lvl very fast that way also.</p><p>also i play on pvp server were lots of aa are a must in order to compete so feel free to flame on now that i said the dreaded pvp word.</p>
Obadiah
06-02-2009, 06:01 PM
<p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>from test update notes:</p><p>disabling combat xp will no longer convert combat xp to aaxp.</p><p>is this at lvl 80 only? i hope.</p><p>because now when we lock at lower lvls to get more aa before we out lvl an area, we will not be getting the aaxp we were trying to get in the first place. and please dont say just leave combat xp on because at lower lvls you will lvl very fast that way also.</p><p>also i play on pvp server were lots of aa are a must in order to compete so feel free to flame on now that i said the dreaded pvp word.</p></blockquote><p>This was a fix. When you turn off combat XP at level 80 it was continuing to convert combat XP to AA XP, thereby not really shutting combat XP off.</p><p>Yes, it applies to level 80 only, since that's the only time when disabling combat XP would in any way impact your AA XP gain.</p>
feldon30
06-02-2009, 06:05 PM
There was 1 person asking for a way to stop getting both XP and AA XP at level 80.
crumpledmonkey
06-02-2009, 06:16 PM
<p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>from test update notes:</p><p>disabling combat xp will no longer convert combat xp to aaxp.</p><p>is this at lvl 80 only? i hope.</p><p>because now when we lock at lower lvls to get more aa before we out lvl an area, we will not be getting the aaxp we were trying to get in the first place. and please dont say just leave combat xp on because at lower lvls you will lvl very fast that way also.</p><p>also i play on pvp server were lots of aa are a must in order to compete so feel free to flame on now that i said the dreaded pvp word.</p></blockquote><p>This was a fix. When you turn off combat XP at level 80 it was continuing to convert combat XP to AA XP, thereby not really shutting combat XP off.</p><p>Yes, it applies to level 80 only, since that's the only time when disabling combat XP would in any way impact your AA XP gain.</p></blockquote><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p>
Deson
06-02-2009, 06:27 PM
<p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p> <blockquote><p>This was a fix. When you turn off combat XP at level 80 it was continuing to convert combat XP to AA XP, thereby not really shutting combat XP off.</p><p>Yes, it applies to level 80 only, since that's the only time when disabling combat XP would in any way impact your AA XP gain.</p></blockquote> <p>Exactly.</p> <p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>There was 1 person asking for a way to stop getting both XP and AA XP at level 80.</blockquote><p>Resulting in the fix. All it was was a fix to a minor bug that doesn't hurt anyone and resolved the issue. Reason why doesn't even have to be mentioned and shouldn't be because it's a distraction.</p><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>from test update notes:</p><p>disabling combat xp will no longer convert combat xp to aaxp.</p><p>is this at lvl 80 only? i hope.</p><p>because now when we lock at lower lvls to get more aa before we out lvl an area, we will not be getting the aaxp we were trying to get in the first place. and please dont say just leave combat xp on because at lower lvls you will lvl very fast that way also.</p><p>also i play on pvp server were lots of aa are a must in order to compete so feel free to flame on now that i said the dreaded pvp word.</p></blockquote><p>This was a fix. When you turn off combat XP at level 80 it was continuing to convert combat XP to AA XP, thereby not really shutting combat XP off.</p><p>Yes, it applies to level 80 only, since that's the only time when disabling combat XP would in any way impact your AA XP gain.</p></blockquote><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p></blockquote><p>If they are working on a non-cap conversion mechanic, this won't hurt you at all. There is currently no conversion pre-80.</p>
Neskonlith
06-02-2009, 06:35 PM
<p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">It does read like level-lockers trying to catch up on AA will be punished by the new restriction - I'll roll a new char on Test and see what happens.</span></p>
Obadiah
06-02-2009, 06:37 PM
<p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">It does read like level-lockers trying to catch up on AA will be punished by the new restriction - I'll roll a new char on Test and see what happens.</span></p></blockquote><p>How is that remotely how it reads? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.</p>
crumpledmonkey
06-02-2009, 06:44 PM
<p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">It does read like level-lockers trying to catch up on AA will be punished by the new restriction - I'll roll a new char on Test and see what happens.</span></p></blockquote><p>How is that remotely how it reads? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.</p></blockquote><p>it makes sense if there is a conversion below lvl 80 which i think there is, its small but i think its there. it makes no sense to you because you say there is no conversion before 80. who is right? i dont know. that is what we need to find out. when i get home from work after i raid tonight i will log in my locked lvl 14 and see if i get aa with xp turned off on live.</p>
TheSpin
06-02-2009, 08:38 PM
<p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><p>not sure if it affects lvl 80 only. there was a post by one of the devs that hinted at they were looking into making a bar slider to change the aa conversion rate as you lvl. so that tells me you get aa convertion at lvls before lvl 80. its probably very small but it is there and now i might be losing it.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">It does read like level-lockers trying to catch up on AA will be punished by the new restriction - I'll roll a new char on Test and see what happens.</span></p></blockquote><p>How is that remotely how it reads? That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.</p></blockquote><p>it makes sense if there is a conversion below lvl 80 which i think there is, its small but i think its there. it makes no sense to you because you say there is no conversion before 80. who is right? i dont know. that is what we need to find out. when i get home from work after i raid tonight i will log in my locked lvl 14 and see if i get aa with xp turned off on live.</p></blockquote><p>I'm level 54 and have 117 AA. I can promise you that there is absolutely NO conversion before 80. I definately would have noticed a small gain in AA after soloing blue/white heroics for hours while working on heroic quests.</p>
Neskonlith
06-02-2009, 09:07 PM
<p><cite>TheSpin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kurgan@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>it makes sense if there is a conversion below lvl 80 which i think there is, its small but i think its there. it makes no sense to you because you say there is no conversion before 80. who is right? i dont know. that is what we need to find out. when i get home from work after i raid tonight i will log in my locked lvl 14 and see if i get aa with xp turned off on live.</blockquote></blockquote><p>I'm level 54 and have 117 AA. I can promise you that there is absolutely NO conversion before 80. I definately would have noticed a small gain in AA after soloing blue/white heroics for hours while working on heroic quests.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">Okay, your situation I can relate to - a lower level locked character who recently did the hours of farming, endured the boredom of mob grinding while actually paying close enough attention to what was happening to their AA bar - there was some level-lockers on Live that recently claimed they still get some mob grind AAxp with their character locked via Disabled Combat xp. Who was I to say they are incorrect with what they said they saw, when I haven't yet had a chance to test their claims for myself?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">I have seen many bugs in eq2, and many times where Devs have posted "<em>that was not intended</em>" just before nerfs, so I tend to not immediately discount such claims without some sort of testing being done. </span></p><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">That all being said, if there <strong><em>was</em></strong> any such xp gain, I admit that it would be extremely small per mob, and not significant in the overall scheme of things. I think I liked saying "punished" in my previous post, mostly because I was considering rolling a new gnome to suffer some in-game indignities all in the interests of Test experiments...</span></p>
feldon30
06-03-2009, 11:28 AM
<p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>it makes sense if there is a conversion below lvl 80 which i think there is</p></blockquote><p>You're imagining things.</p><p>The only level at which combat XP gets turned into AA is level 80.</p><p>On live, this conversion ratio is about .0001% per kill.</p><p>The change which has been made is: If Combat XP is disabled, then Combat XP will not be converted to AA at level 80.</p><p>This is not "another assault on level lockers". LOL</p>
crumpledmonkey
06-03-2009, 07:53 PM
<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>crumpledmonkey wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>it makes sense if there is a conversion below lvl 80 which i think there is</p></blockquote><p>You're imagining things.</p><p>The only level at which combat XP gets turned into AA is level 80.</p><p>On live, this conversion ratio is about .0001% per kill.</p><p>The change which has been made is: If Combat XP is disabled, then Combat XP will not be converted to AA at level 80.</p><p>This is not "another assault on level lockers". LOL</p></blockquote><p>tested it last night after raids on live server.</p><p>on my locked lvl 12 killed 32 mobs ^^^ even con or higher with xp bar all the way across the screen did not see any aaxp gain with adventure xp off. Killed 12 ^ even con mobs, did not want to lvl, with adventure xp turned on and saw no xp gain.</p><p>for me there was no aaxp conversion at lvl 12.</p><p>my bad all</p>
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