Levi

[Eggy]

<p>Has anyone seen this before - did we just get "bugged" We went in for levi last night - had a good farming night - had 88 vials - more than enough - had 11 people with suits - more than enough. We have 4 greenmist orbs. First attempt. Gaurd suits up, kills 2 sperms - gets booted. Warlock suits - Lays off 4 vials - levi at 95% Wizard suits up - lays off 3 vials - levi at 89% Not a half a second later - levi is at 100% We had no pets - we had no one die other than the wizzy who was just inside. Second pull - had some ninja afkers - - did manage to suit up one person - but tank was down within seconds 3rd pull - at this point we call off all Auto attacking - - only debuffing when his Reflect is stripped. Gaurd suits up - Kills 1 sperm - dies. Warlock suits up - 5 vials - Levi at 92% Before the warlock gets booted levi at 100% At this point we call it - no point in wasting more vials - On the farming run with the same instance we got levi down to 85% with just auto attacking from the outside - not one vial was set off - And we had multiple deaths as the farm took a long time - Also - in ACT there are the few thousand heals here and there - one heal for almost 100k - but thats it. No magical 1 million point heal or 10 of them Were we "bugged" or was someone in raid reflecting HUGE heals back on Levi - that werent even recorded in ACT??? We have killed Levi 3 times before - with no issues whatsoever - this time just sucked.</p>

[Kordran]

<p>It's not bugged, the massive heals are a fail condition. The fight is incredibly easy, as long as people are paying attention, position correctly, cure themselves and the bombers have good spell crit. Frankly, there's absolutely no reason for a Guardian to ever suit up for that fight. Scouts can farm, casters bomb (crusaders are also good bombers, if they've taken the AA line to boost their spell crit).</p><p>Make sure everyone is autoattacking, positioned so they don't eat the riposte, don't get killed by the nox, and make sure that someone has a suit on at all times. That's about it. If people are dying to Levi, then its your raid that's killing them, or they're killing themselves. If they're dying to the devourers, then... that's just fail. Get better gear or something.</p><p>Edit: Spelling for the win!</p>

[urgthock]

<p><cite>Kordran wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> make sure that someone has a suit on at all times.</p></blockquote><p>This ^^^. And make sure they are waiting in the water to get eaten.</p>

[Rainmare]

<p>and exactly when did the leviathan get a 'fail condition' at 89% for massive heals?</p><p>we destroy Levi too. and we never have anyone autoattacking him other then the tank. you send in your 'bombers' in thier fish suits, they blow the crap outta him, and you have your person with the greenmist orb do the device at 10%. no more or less. have a spammer stripping him and throw up your debuffs when it's down.</p><p>and for your information, yes, it's quite possible to die in the levithan, particularly a squishy. even if you have all the dispersion gear available, there's the chance that 1) you'll spawn inside with 3-4 sperms on you off the bat and chewing on you automatically, and 2) the chance that the poison will kill you being it can hit you while in the belly and your only cure method then is a potion. if you don't have a potion, yer outta luck (or run out during the fight if you forgot to restock yourself) or if you are fighting a sperm and it interrupts your potion 'casting'.</p><p>In fact the only time I've ever heard of a healing fail condition in Levi is if you kill him before someone uses the orb on him. which they were no where near the point of even being able to use it yet.</p><p>now I think there's supposed to be somethign that happens if you don't kill one of the sperms every so often, but I thought that was a massive Ae..not a heal, either.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Eggy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had no pets - we had no one die other than the wizzy who was just inside.</p></blockquote><p>Why do people blame pets for anything because pets  do not effect encounters at all like that.</p>

[feldon30]

Levi has had a fail condition if the raid is not Melee AutoAttacking for nearly a year now. It's not "89%". It's whenever you are not autoattacking he will heal bigtime. As long as you are all standing on the edge of the rim, autoattacking, curing nox, and NOT casting spells/CAs on Levi, then you should be rocking this encounter. Pick your 8 folks with highest spell crit/spell damage to go inside btw. And at 20%, have someone with Greenmist Orb run their butt off over to the little cyclops statue thingy and as soon as they can, start clicking it. Even if they die, even if they click it while running, it will trigger.

[feldon30]

<p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>we destroy Levi too. and we never have anyone autoattacking him other then the tank.</p><p>you have your person with the greenmist orb do the device at 10%. no more or less.</p><p>it's quite possible to die in the levithan, particularly a squishy.</p><p>In fact the only time I've ever heard of a healing fail condition in Levi is if you kill him before someone uses the orb on him.</p></blockquote><p>We tried it first not autoattacking him, and he stayed at 100% no matter how many bombs we dropped. We started autoattacking and it was cake.</p><p>Greenmist Orb at 10% sounds like VERY bad advice. I clicked it at 16% and it took until Levi was at 5% before it was done casting. If I had clicked it at 10%, then we would have wiped the encounter as when Levi gets to 1% he wipes the raid.</p><p>We rotate an SK, then mage, then scout, then mage, then scout, then mage, that way if they zone in and there is a sperm, they can kill it quick to make room for the mage. Also conjuror can send pets in to help kill the sperms.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Levi has had a fail condition if the raid is not Melee AutoAttacking for nearly a year now. It's not "89%". It's whenever you are not autoattacking he will heal bigtime. As long as you are all standing on the edge of the rim, autoattacking, curing nox, and NOT casting spells/CAs on Levi, then you should be rocking this encounter. Pick your 8 folks with highest spell crit/spell damage to go inside btw. And at 20%, have someone with Greenmist Orb run their butt off over to the little cyclops statue thingy and as soon as they can, start clicking it. Even if they die, even if they click it while running, it will trigger.</blockquote><p>You can cast spells  all you want doesnt trigger a fail effect   8-0 pct of time will just reflect back towards ya.Make sure the classes that can dispell the reflect does so and you get your debuffs in specially when you use vials so get 4-5 pct per vial.</p><p>And you dont want to be standing on any rim you want to be in the water in his stomach works best you can be behind him while in his stomach  and with this   everyone is in  auto attack range.</p><p>Want chanter or sorcer to go down to blow off vials.... well anyone with fast cast and high base.</p><p>You want scouts/sorc to take out ravagers quickly  ranger actually prob best .</p>

[Geothe]

<p><cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And you dont want to be standing on any rim you want to be in the water in his stomach works best you can be behind him while in his stomach  and with this   everyone is in  auto attack range.</p></blockquote><p>Standing on the rim around Levi is in autoattack range, he has a decently large hitbox.</p>

[hellfire]

<p><cite>Geothe wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bigron@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>And you dont want to be standing on any rim you want to be in the water in his stomach works best you can be behind him while in his stomach  and with this   everyone is in  auto attack range.</p></blockquote><p>Standing on the rim around Levi is in autoattack range, he has a decently large hitbox.</p></blockquote><p>Still no reason not to be in water then people  know for sure.They ar4e triggering fail effect of not auto attacking...if everyone is in water with  the x button pressed then there is no question.</p>

[feldon30]

Cool, thanks Bigron. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Nebbeny]

CA's dont reflect either, so no reason to just have people sitting around doing nothing, as long as mages dont use green nukes and have high resists to their own damage type, they can nuke away, and your melee types can just use CA's. They do less damage, but it's still more then /autoattack /afk.

[Graywindnz]

I see no one mentioned the healing he does when someone is far away from Levi for 2 long or dead.

[Macross_JR]

<p><cite>Nebbeny wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>CA's dont reflect either, so no reason to just have people sitting around doing nothing, as long as mages dont use green nukes and have high resists to their own damage type, they can nuke away, and your melee types can just use CA's. They do less damage, but it's still more then /autoattack /afk.</blockquote><p>Just to clarify on this.  CA's that say Melee Damage don't reflect, anything else has a chance too cause for some odd reason c/s/p is a spell componet.</p>

[RafaelSmith]

<p><cite>Eggy wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> Gaurd suits up,</p></blockquote><p>Huh?</p>

[feldon30]

LOL I didn't even notice that. I could see an SK maybe due to mountains of spell crit and being able to ignore any sperm adds. With haste and everything else, our SK was dropping 6 bombs before ported out, so he'll always be part of our rotation. But a Guard? Why?

[Pins]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rainmare@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>we destroy Levi too. and we never have anyone autoattacking him other then the tank.</p><p>you have your person with the greenmist orb do the device at 10%. no more or less.</p><p>it's quite possible to die in the levithan, particularly a squishy.</p><p>In fact the only time I've ever heard of a healing fail condition in Levi is if you kill him before someone uses the orb on him.</p></blockquote><p>We tried it first not autoattacking him, and he stayed at 100% no matter how many bombs we dropped. We started autoattacking and it was cake.</p><p>Greenmist Orb at 10% sounds like VERY bad advice. I clicked it at 16% and it took until Levi was at 5% before it was done casting. If I had clicked it at 10%, then we would have wiped the encounter as when Levi gets to 1% he wipes the raid.</p><p>We rotate an SK, then mage, then scout, then mage, then scout, then mage, that way if they zone in and there is a sperm, they can kill it quick to make room for the mage. Also conjuror can send pets in to help kill the sperms.</p></blockquote><p>You don't wipe if you haven't hit the orb by the time he "reaches" 0%, he just heals back up to 20% and you continue on from there.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote> But a Guard? Why?</blockquote><p>To kill sperms to loot for others to drop later.</p><p>same thing you send scouts in on.  I can kill 2, sometimes 3 of em as a guard, better than some scouts we send in.</p><p>As others have said, turn on autoattack.</p><p>I don't recommend getting in the water as others have said as there is damage from the water and it can and will interupt spell casts, moreso, if you've got a guild having trouble with levi, chances are they might not have the gear to resist the burn affect consistently enough.</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Thanks Pinski. Good to know. Still gonna call for it at 20% just so we don't run out of vials having to do 20-0% twice.</p>

[OpethPA]

<blockquote><p>I don't recommend getting in the water as others have said as there is damage from the water and it can and will interupt spell casts, moreso, if you've got a guild having trouble with levi, chances are they might not have the gear to resist the burn affect consistently enough.</p></blockquote><p>Huh?</p><p>Since when...</p><p>You can do this fight with 2-3 potions if you want..</p><p>1. Put the whole raid force inside Levi.</p><p>2. Make sure you are at the back of him</p><p>3. Use all the CA's you want.</p><p>4. Casters feed power.</p><p>5. Wait for the Orb part.</p><p>6. Someone suits up and goes in</p><p>7. Orb person suits up ( you will never get knocked back if suited doing orb)</p><p>8. Use potions or CAs or whatever to kill.</p>