GU52 new Kunark quest lines - bugs and feedback [Archive]

Kaitheel

05-26-2009, 08:35 PM

A mysterious army has appeared upon the shores of Kunark and begun pillaging the land and slaughtering those that oppose them. Citizens of Dreg's Landing in Kylong Plains, Sathir's Span in Fens of Nathsar, the City of Jinisk in Kunzar Jungle and Danak's Upper Command Camp in Jarsath Wastes are looking for your help in learning about the invaders and defeating them.The Bellywhumpers in Fens of Nathsar have been alarmed by the appearance of a Void anchor within Kurn's tower. Those that have already worked for the burynai clan should speak with Pulnil the Hagler to help with their investgation.Currently, there are many issues with the quests that are known, including quest givers in Kylong Plains not being spawned, lack of uniforms, and some NPCs saying "hail dialog" when hailed. (Whoops!) But I encourage you to post any bugs and feedback you have about the quest lines here to better ensure I do not miss it.Thanks and have fun!*Edited to reflect that as of 6/2 the quest givers in Kylong Plains are present, they have uniforms and no longer say "Hail dialog".

Xalmat

05-26-2009, 08:41 PM

I'll run the quests in its entirety sometime this week or weekend and see if I catch anything.Couple questions.1. Have the quest rewards been itemized?2. I'm assuming this is a lead-up to the next expansion. Will these quests remain in when the next expansion is released? <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Gladiolus

05-26-2009, 08:45 PM

<blockquote><ul><li>Indus Surion should no longer sell "The Freeport’s Guide to Opportunity – 2nd Edition".</li><li> Navarius Orvalis should no longer sell "Welcome to Qeynos, Citizen! – 2nd Edition".</li></ul></blockquote> Are there to be any type of replacements for these?

Corydonn

05-26-2009, 10:05 PM

The Second Quest of the Sathir's Span line "Seek and Destroy" seems uncompleteable as it gives you a copy of one of the tasks, "I am to locate the Order of Rite's first camp" which doesn't seem to update anywhere,After moving to the Jinisk quests to kill Ice Contructs they seem to be very rare and have a long respawn time for a quest that needs you to slay 8 of the things.

Chalysa

05-26-2009, 10:16 PM

there is suposed to be a quest giver in Dregs landing in KP yet when I was there, there was no one with quests that I could see besides the faction quest givers.

Kaitheel

05-26-2009, 10:57 PM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>1. Have the quest rewards been itemized?2. I'm assuming this is a lead-up to the next expansion. Will these quests remain in when the next expansion is released? <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>1. Yes.2. This content is permanent and will remain when the next expansion is released.

Kaitheel

05-26-2009, 11:01 PM

<cite>Gladiolus wrote:</cite><blockquote><blockquote><ul><li>Indus Surion should no longer sell "The Freeport’s Guide to Opportunity – 2nd Edition".</li><li>Navarius Orvalis should no longer sell "Welcome to Qeynos, Citizen! – 2nd Edition".</li></ul></blockquote>Are there to be any type of replacements for these?</blockquote>Although, I was not the one to make this change, allow me to explain it. Nothing was removed from game. Indus no longer sells the Freeport citizenship book, as he is the Qeynos merchant. Navarius no longer sells the Qeynos citizenship tome as he is the Freeport merchant.

Kaitheel

05-26-2009, 11:07 PM

As for the issues you encountered with "Seek and destroy" Corydonn, I will look into it, but it may just be that you had not found the three camps. (There's two on the edge of the Swamp of No Hope and one at the base of the falls.) I'll up the number of Ice Contructs.LtColWulff, the lack of quest givers at Dregs landing in Kylong Plains was a known issue, but I appreciate the heads up!

Corydonn

05-26-2009, 11:27 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>As for the issues you encountered with "Seek and destroy" Corydonn, I will look into it, but it may just be that you had not found the three camps. (There's two on the edge of the Swamp of No Hope and one at the base of the falls.) I'll up the number of Ice Contructs.LtColWulff, the lack of quest givers at Dregs landing in Kylong Plains was a known issue, but I appreciate the heads up!</blockquote>Alright will go try that 3rd camp now.After doing a few of the Kunzar Jungle quest lines I noticed that the new fish NPCs "Kunzar Muckshredders," sometimes spawn above the water from the quest Fish Scales and Cat Tails and for the quest Dry Ice it states you need to find Bizarre Ice creatures near the City of Mist which... I seem to have trouble locating.Third edit, The quest "Swamp Fire Defense" is truly uncompletable as when you place a ward (quest item) it consumes all 6 of the warding items in your inventory and the NPC even when poked has an error in giving more of the ward items.

Mheryl

05-27-2009, 01:11 AM

Either the dazed iksar villagers are not respawning as such, or they are very few and far between (quest "Ethernere Escort" in Kunzar Jungle, city of jinisk.One person reported having killed some, I've been all over the jungle and found regular villagers but no "dazed" ones.

Slayan

05-27-2009, 01:15 AM

I posted this on another thread because I didnt know were to put it. But, This is Discord all over again from EQ 1, The Void have taken over Kurns, theres a army taking over Kunark ect. PLEASE dont ruin this game like the Discord stuff drove players out of EQ 1

Corydonn

05-27-2009, 01:30 AM

<cite>Mheryl wrote:</cite><blockquote>Either the dazed iksar villagers are not respawning as such, or they are very few and far between (quest "Ethernere Escort" in Kunzar Jungle, city of jinisk.One person reported having killed some, I've been all over the jungle and found regular villagers but no "dazed" ones.</blockquote>There are about 2 buildings and 16 or so spawns of Dazed iksar that are close to City of Mist from the Quest giver.I seem to have gotten stuck again with the Fens questline with the 3rd quest "Clothes off their back" saying to return to Revliss after doing two sets of updates but he has no update journal above his head and states that Sliza Xarezia is waiting.Edit* Found Sliza in Riliss

LordPazuzu

05-27-2009, 02:17 AM

<cite>Slayan wrote:</cite><blockquote>I posted this on another thread because I didnt know were to put it. But, This is Discord all over again from EQ 1, The Void have taken over Kurns, theres a army taking over Kunark ect. PLEASE dont ruin this game like the Discord stuff drove players out of EQ 1</blockquote>THis is in keeping with the theme of the current expansion. They've been playing out the Void invasion for probably close to a year now if I can remember when all of those annoying Void storms started popping up.Having played both, TSO is hardly like Gates of Discord/Omens of War.

Uncaged

05-27-2009, 02:59 AM

<cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Slayan wrote:</cite><blockquote>I posted this on another thread because I didnt know were to put it. But, This is Discord all over again from EQ 1, The Void have taken over Kurns, theres a army taking over Kunark ect. PLEASE dont ruin this game like the Discord stuff drove players out of EQ 1</blockquote>THis is in keeping with the theme of the current expansion. They've been playing out the Void invasion for probably close to a year now if I can remember when all of those annoying Void storms started popping up.Having played both, TSO is hardly like Gates of Discord/Omens of War.</blockquote>Well, I haven't played the new invasion on test but I think what Slayan is concerned about is difficulty of the game. When Gates/Omens came out in EQI, people were getting Planes of Power raid geared, some Time geared. So to keep interest in the game they up'd the difficulty level of Gates/Omens expansions to rediculous levels.It was pretty much reserved for solid raid geared groups or raid forces. It was difficult to explore in a casual or solo/duo senario. I can attest to the exasperation I felt playing EQI at that time because you had two choices for content. Play Planes of Power to get a chance at good gear , which could take you 10 or more 3 hour raids per piece. Or take your chances in a pickup Gates group etc. For me, a semi-casual player at the time, neither was a great option. I then came to EQII.(and happy I did).That said, I do not think the powers that be would dare follow that same mistake this time. Though I could be wrong <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" />.

feldon30

05-27-2009, 03:32 AM

I don't know what to make of the new arrivals...<img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens01.jpg" width="800" height="484" /><img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens04.jpg" /><img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens05.jpg" width="700" height="515" />

Besual

05-27-2009, 03:36 AM

Hm, could it be some hints that the next expansion is Velious?

Deson

05-27-2009, 03:38 AM

Velious Vikings?

Noaani

05-27-2009, 03:40 AM

There seems to be a complete lack of body drops on all members of the Order of Rime.Coin, status items, random vender trash, anything. Chest loot is hooked up correctly.

BleemTeam

05-27-2009, 03:59 AM

In Jarsath Wastes, it seems on the quest "Gathering Rime Stones" the second part "Defeat the ice spirits to collect elemental ice shards." is not responding to killing the icy spirits. The little turtle dudes don't update, nor do I have an item to indeed destroy anything.Any ideas?

Morghus

05-27-2009, 04:18 AM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I don't know what to make of the new arrivals...<img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens01.jpg" width="800" height="484" /><img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens04.jpg" /><img src="http://fanfaire08.feldoncentral.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/northfens05.jpg" width="700" height="515" /></blockquote>So much for Che'Drak being one of a kind....guess they might actually be a sub-species perhaps?

Xalmat

05-27-2009, 05:16 AM

Kromrif and Kromzek giants! /gleeAnd yeah, multiple Chel'drak-like dragons? That's a surprise.

Galithdor

05-27-2009, 07:14 AM

Looks like i have some things to check out! Hahahaha...and i think this is pointing at velious <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> though i swore it melted...

Noaani

05-27-2009, 07:18 AM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>And yeah, multiple Chel'drak-like dragons? That's a surprise.</blockquote>I'm guessing that these things are non-sentient, as opposed to Chel'Drak. I can't see any creature of true dragon origin being used as an ocean going sled-dog, which seems to be their purpose here.

Gamer1965

05-27-2009, 09:25 AM

Would there be any connection at all with these new beings and the baby Icy Keep dragon we freed during frostfell ???

AnjelikaR

05-27-2009, 10:41 AM

Clothes Off Their Backs quest in Fens is bugged for me. I acquired the required armor components. Quest states I should return to Revliss. Howevr, Revliss is not highlighted for quest completion and just says they are waiting for the complete set of armor when I hail him.Unable to advance quest at this point. Bugged it in game as well.

Noaani

05-27-2009, 10:43 AM

If you read the dialog when you get the quest, you'll notice that he says to take the armor to someone in Riliss, and even though the quest journal says to take it back to him, if you go to Riliss you will see the NPC that updates the quest.The bug is in who the quest journal says to talk to next.

feldon30

05-27-2009, 11:18 AM

Yeah, they're just used as 'sled dogs' here. I couldn't explore up top because it was guarded by two 80^^^'s who see invisible. I'm guessing there will be a zone-in for a dungeon here at some point...

Xalmat

05-27-2009, 03:58 PM

Noaani

05-27-2009, 04:02 PM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote>Yeah, they're just used as 'sled dogs' here. I couldn't explore up top because it was guarded by two 80^^^'s who see invisible. I'm guessing there will be a zone-in for a dungeon here at some point...</blockquote>I doubt there will be an instance, but they do offer quests, although the first of them seems to be bugged (something to do with collecting elements...).

Xalmat

05-27-2009, 04:09 PM

For "No Word From the Field" in JW, I found a dead Agent of Danak in the Traitor's Pass, but it won't let me update the quest. I'm assuming you have to find the field agents in the proper order to update the quest. Would make more sense to me (assuming this is the right agent) to let you find them in any order.*Update* I've found multiple Agents of Danak in Traitors Pass, and none of them update the quest.*Update* I found one Agent of Danak by the lake in Stonehoof Badlands, and it didn't update either. Am I missing something?

Gaige

05-27-2009, 04:17 PM

It better not be Velious. I'd hate to see Velious implemented in this new anti-contested, anti-raid, ezmode lack of progression style.Either Odus or something where having 99% of the expansion solo and heroic instances wouldn't be such a letdown.

shadowscale

05-27-2009, 04:30 PM

key points i want from Velious is the option to ally with skyshrine and veshaan become worshipable.

Gungo

05-27-2009, 04:49 PM

I don't think the game is ready for velious yet. It needs to a be a truly epic expansion.Odus is doable with the current team/design.Maybe when the game mechanics are stable and they can devote a good amount of time to the expansion then i say go for velious. Like if odus focused on the tier 9 progression velious could come in as the expansion after and deal purely with the content instead of focusing on proper leveling areas.

jtuarus

05-27-2009, 05:03 PM

Well IIRC sony just copyrighted the name Secrets of Odus so while the ice stuff might point to velious i still think we are getting Odus

Xalmat

05-27-2009, 05:07 PM

BleemTeam

05-27-2009, 05:25 PM

Xalmat, if you go from Ganak's Battlement toward traitor's pass from the Venril Crown side, you will find all 6 in the right order as if you were going to the Skleross Camp and then to the Badlands.They are all there.** Edit to add, a few quests into this series is bugged however, I had added a question about it in this thread. However, one of the Iksar ladies, the one on the left, her series runs all the way through. I discovered the Turtle Shoulders....** My bug is below...In Jarsath Wastes, it seems on the quest "Gathering Rime Stones" the second part "Defeat the ice spirits to collect elemental ice shards." is not responding to killing the icy spirits. The little turtle dudes don't update, nor do I have an item to indeed destroy anything.

feldon30

05-27-2009, 05:52 PM

<cite>jtuarus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well IIRC sony just copyrighted the name Secrets of Odus so while the ice stuff might point to velious i still think we are getting Odus</blockquote>The websites that one would expect to be registered are not registered atm.

Methriln

05-27-2009, 06:27 PM

Stuck on the quest dry ice i cant seem to find the mobs for it. Ive run all over the area around the city of the mist. Are the mobs not in or am i blindEdit-For the quest Swamp fire defense the green shiny at -509.79,-71.75,481.39 is un clickable.Shiny at -597.73,-46.27,361.36 as well.Shiny at -427.84,-82.21,595.11. The other green shiny at -67.40,-117.97,1,008.79 is unharvestable as well. <img src="file:///C:/Users/ADMINI~1/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg" />the other shiny by the gate for outerseb wards was harvestable. Other than that couldnt find the last shiny in trakaraptor alley. Assume the same with it not being able to be harvested.Ill edit the post as i find more bugs

Methriln

05-27-2009, 09:27 PM

edit bug was already posted.

ZeroByte

05-27-2009, 10:06 PM

Quest: Elemental's Amongst UsLocation: Kunzar Jungle - City of JiniskFirst thing I notice is the amount of elementals is sparce. When this hits live there is going to be a lot of players waiting for spawns. There should be more spawns and more spread out.

Mirander_1

05-27-2009, 10:24 PM

<cite>jtuarus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well IIRC sony just copyrighted the name Secrets of Odus so while the ice stuff might point to velious i still think we are getting Odus</blockquote>Nope, no trademark, no website. I'm guessing you're referring to a post that was made back on April Fools Day, as I vaguely recall that name coming up back then

Methriln

05-27-2009, 10:26 PM

on clothes of their backs i got the harvestable items and the 2 mob updates but when i go back to the quest giver he wont update the quest just says to go see the next npc i assume in the quest. maybe change the quest giver to tell u were the mob to turn in at is would be nice.

Noaani

05-27-2009, 10:46 PM

<cite>Methriln wrote:</cite><blockquote>on clothes of their backs i got the harvestable items and the 2 mob updates but when i go back to the quest giver he wont update the quest just says to go see the next npc i assume in the quest. maybe change the quest giver to tell u were the mob to turn in at is would be nice.</blockquote><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you read the dialog when you get the quest, you'll notice that he says to take the armor to someone in Riliss, and even though the quest journal says to take it back to him, if you go to Riliss you will see the NPC that updates the quest.The bug is in who the quest journal says to talk to next.</blockquote>

Methriln

05-27-2009, 10:54 PM

Ok the quest elemental task which i picked up from the rime guys out on the ice sheet just says quest description. and for the harvestables it says part description over top of them. ANd infiltration system currently gives +0 faction with rillis.

Sheral

05-28-2009, 07:34 AM

Hi <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />In the quest "Clothes off theirbacks" in sathir's span when you finsh it it said to go back to Revliss Dru'shyvthe quest giver but when you go back to him he tell you to turn it to Sliza Xarezia (which is in Rillis)thought you might want to take a look at that <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />edit : just noticed someone already point it out <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/499fd50bc713bfcdf2ab5a23c00c2d62.gif" border="0" /> so nevermind

Aneova

05-28-2009, 09:29 AM

Never mind <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Hecula

05-28-2009, 01:53 PM

Is the Heavy Lifter questline going to be an access quest for one of the Kurn's Tower instances? It would be nice IMO.

PotatoeGuru

05-28-2009, 08:28 PM

Quick question ... Are these quests 'linear progressive' or can we do the set in each zone in an order of our choosing? That is, can I start in Jarsath or do I have to start in Kylong?

Xalmat

05-28-2009, 08:38 PM

You can do them in whatever order you want it seems. They're also level appropriate for the zone, which is a big plus in my book.

Tazdrag

05-29-2009, 07:02 AM

Fens of Nathsar quest bugDragonbone Weapon Partsquest giver Pudge the Braveslaying dragonbone larva is not updatingquest states "I am to slay dragonbone larva in search of _." followed by a picture of something unidentifiable and 0/6No messages when killing the dragonbone larva

Kaitheel

05-29-2009, 02:46 PM

Heyya all! I wanted to give a bit of an update. Due to the sheer number of quests that are being added as part of this update, I’m tackling their bugs a little differently than normal. I’m being semi organized and doing them by zone. Last night, I finished doing my first pass on the 30 some quests in Fens of Nathsar. I don’t know when these will make it to the Test servers, but they’re on their way. Today, I am starting on the bugs with the Kunzar Jungle quests. Thank you once again, for all of the reports and feedback, it’s definitely helping!

feldon30

05-29-2009, 02:52 PM

I'm glad they listened and didn't make huge quest chains that cannot be deviated from. This will be awesome for guild groups who want to whip out these quests.

Kaitheel

05-29-2009, 02:54 PM

Brigh, there are some quests that are 'linear progressive' but they won't let you do them until you've done the required previous ones. So, to answer your question, if the quest is offered to you, then you are free to accept it in the order of your choosing.

Purrcey

05-29-2009, 05:38 PM

Found no quest givers in Dregs Landing as mentioned"A mysterious army has appeared upon the shores of Kunark and begun pillaging the land and slaughtering those that oppose them. Citizens of Dreg's Landing in Kylong Plains, Sathir's Span in Fens of Nathsar, the City of Jinisk in Kunzar Jungle and Danak's Upper Command Camp in Jarsath Wastes are looking for your help in learning about the invaders and defeating them."

Kaitheel

05-30-2009, 12:51 AM

Another update to give!I just finished doing my first pass on the 20 quests in Kunzar Jungle. I don’t know when these will make it to the Test servers, but they're on their way. Next I will be starting on the bugs with the quests in Jarsath Wastes.Enjoy the weekend!

Maroger

05-30-2009, 12:20 PM

<cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>jtuarus wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well IIRC sony just copyrighted the name Secrets of Odus so while the ice stuff might point to velious i still think we are getting Odus</blockquote>The websites that one would expect to be registered are not registered atm.</blockquote>Nothing at the USPTO listed under Trademarks. I think SOE understands we search the trademarks so this year I have feeling they won't register the trademark until after Fan Faire.

tantric

05-30-2009, 03:32 PM

I started working on some of these last night and seem to have done the Jinsk ones through. My observation all these provide neg faction hits to Order of Rime. This begins at max neg to begin with. Will there be a line that will improve that factionn so we could use the vendors out on the Sheet?

Maroger

05-30-2009, 05:21 PM

Who starts the quest line in Sathir's Span?

Kaitheel

05-31-2009, 05:14 PM

Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!

Maroger

05-31-2009, 11:14 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.

Dreyco

05-31-2009, 11:58 PM

<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.</blockquote>Yes indeed, I agree. And with the respawn on the pages, this is going to be a pretty serious hassle. not enough players will be able to complete the quest fast enough to really be able to start the quests if they haven't learned Sathirian yet. Perhaps remove the language requirement, or make it something that can be obtained by a language primer in the cities.

Maroger

06-01-2009, 12:24 AM

<cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.</blockquote>Yes indeed, I agree. And with the respawn on the pages, this is going to be a pretty serious hassle. not enough players will be able to complete the quest fast enough to really be able to start the quests if they haven't learned Sathirian yet. Perhaps remove the language requirement, or make it something that can be obtained by a language primer in the cities.</blockquote>Maybe they should skip the pages requirment and just have you get the quest from the little Iksar.

Methriln

06-01-2009, 01:02 AM

any eta on when the fixed quests will be patched?

BleemTeam

06-01-2009, 01:42 AM

Kaitheel, please leave in the language barriers. It adds to what is already in place.

Torri

06-01-2009, 02:09 AM

If it means a shortage of people being able to test it, remove the language requirement from the quest while in testing and reinstate it when it goes live.

Noaani

06-01-2009, 08:10 AM

<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.</blockquote>Yes indeed, I agree. And with the respawn on the pages, this is going to be a pretty serious hassle. not enough players will be able to complete the quest fast enough to really be able to start the quests if they haven't learned Sathirian yet. Perhaps remove the language requirement, or make it something that can be obtained by a language primer in the cities.</blockquote>Maybe they should skip the pages requirment and just have you get the quest from the little Iksar.</blockquote>Maybe they should leave it as is, as a solo language quest is not big ask as a pre requisite for a solo quest series.I mean, its not like its hard to find the pages, they all respawn in the same area, so if you need a specific page you know exactly where to go to get it.

Dasein

06-01-2009, 12:48 PM

<cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.</blockquote>Yes indeed, I agree. And with the respawn on the pages, this is going to be a pretty serious hassle. not enough players will be able to complete the quest fast enough to really be able to start the quests if they haven't learned Sathirian yet. Perhaps remove the language requirement, or make it something that can be obtained by a language primer in the cities.</blockquote>The language quests have been live for a year and a half, and are prerequisites for other quests already. I'd suspect most people have already done them, and if people know in advance they will be needed for the new quests, they can get them done before hand. Further, when RoK was launched, there was far more demand for the pages than I think you'll see now, and respawn rates were not an issue.

Maroger

06-01-2009, 01:52 PM

<cite>Dasein wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Dreyco wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>Apparently if you don't know the Sathirian Language you can't speak to him. And the quest for the Sathirian language involving the anonymous black book as a starter makes it difficult to start this quest line. Maybe you could do something to make the quest line easier to start -- right not without the language you can't do the quests.</blockquote>Yes indeed, I agree. And with the respawn on the pages, this is going to be a pretty serious hassle. not enough players will be able to complete the quest fast enough to really be able to start the quests if they haven't learned Sathirian yet. Perhaps remove the language requirement, or make it something that can be obtained by a language primer in the cities.</blockquote>The language quests have been live for a year and a half, and are prerequisites for other quests already. I'd suspect most people have already done them, and if people know in advance they will be needed for the new quests, they can get them done before hand. Further, when RoK was launched, there was far more demand for the pages than I think you'll see now, and respawn rates were not an issue.</blockquote>This is not necessarily so -- many people just arriving in the zone may not have done the quest. I don't think language should be barrier to doing the new quests. I think it might be better if they drop the language requirement for the new quest line. They can leave it for the other but take it out for the new quest line.

Kaitheel

06-01-2009, 02:13 PM

Heyya guys,Just to let you know the language requirement was unintended, and was resolved back on Tue 5/26/2009, but that change, and the other ones since then, have yet to make to the Test servers.

Maroger

06-01-2009, 02:23 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Heyya guys,Just to let you know the language requirement was unintended, and was resolved back on Tue 5/26/2009, but that change, and the other ones since then, have yet to make to the Test servers.</blockquote>Thanks Kaitheel. Do you have any idea when we can expect the new fixes to make it to the test servers?

Kaitheel

06-01-2009, 06:14 PM

Good news!The Test servers should be getting updated either tonight or tomorrow, depending upon QA approval. And it should include all of the changes and bug fixes that I made this last week, including the following callouts:Kunzar Jungle *The number of illusive ice constructs within Jinisk for Zikana Sly'ssar's quest "Elementals Amongst Us" has been increased.*Those seeking ice creatures for Khassp Xivvix's quest "Dry Ice" should examine ice shards found upon the ground near the City of Mist.*Slixin Drusar now offers replacement wards for those on the quest "Swamp Fire Defense".Fens of Nathsar *Revliss Dru'shyv's quest "Clothes Off Their Backs" now correctly identifies Sliza Xarezia as the NPC you must speak with in order to complete the quest.

zinner62

06-02-2009, 03:49 AM

I To could not get the Water Elemental update for this quest and I have looked all over the zone and the Earth elemental is a lvl 1 mob wich seams way out of spec for this quest line.Fairhair

Pexsus

06-02-2009, 05:12 PM

Bleh, wrong thread

Neskonlith

06-02-2009, 05:46 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Tantric, there is indeed a line of quests that will help you improve your Order of Rime faction.Maroger, you will want to speak with Revliss Dru'shyv in Sathir's Span for the new quests.Thanks for the help!</blockquote>A couple items to seek clarification:- On Test I cannot find Order of Rime listed in the factions tab to see where my standings are after each quest... I was curious to see how far I need to go to gain access to the Rime weapons and armor merchants!- zoning, such as from KP to KJ causes the "Sleetsaber Illusion" to drop, requiring you to recast the illusion (+20k faction) to safely go to a Rime npc for updates... does recasting the illusion over-write any of the quest faction gains earned?fun stuff so far!

Neskonlith

06-02-2009, 05:54 PM

<cite>zinner62 wrote:</cite><blockquote>I To could not get the Water Elemental update for this quest and I have looked all over the zone and the Earth elemental is a lvl 1 mob wich seams way out of spec for this quest line.Fairhair</blockquote>I found the wind elemental to be lvl1, and the earth were lvl80's when i did that step.Friday I also had the same problem of getting the water elementals to give update - I killed 12+ and nothing happened, not even "quest item not found" notice. I got that update after killing one of the same water elemental mobs after today's patch, so it seems perhaps a known bug was fixed, or you will need to camp out and back in to reset something for the water elementals to update for you.

Neskonlith

06-02-2009, 06:18 PM

For the quest, "Enter the Jungle", I jumped off cliff by Eastern Pens into the river below and ran on the beach to KJ, and there was no quest mob popping.I went back into Fens, and this time I swam in the croc infested water while invis from the lift area towards KJ and finally got the lazy iksar update mob to spawn - perhaps it might be worth moving that mob pop closer to KJ since I suspect many people will BASE jump the massive fall into water for fun rather than take the boring lift ride to the river down below?

Neskonlith

06-02-2009, 09:23 PM

oops: wrong thread, sry!

Kaitheel

06-03-2009, 12:16 AM

Another update for those interested!Today I finished doing bug fixes for the new quests being offered in Jarsath Wastes. I don't know when those changes will hit the Test servers, but they are on their way!

Kaitheel

06-03-2009, 12:16 AM

Neskonlith, The Order of Rime Faction should be listed under the faction tab "Unknown" as it is not a city, or a known continent faction.Casting the Rime illusion does not negatively affect your character's true Order of Rime Faction, it adds to it (until you reach a certain amount).And you are correct that with the update to the Test servers today the Water Elemental and Earth elemental issues for Skelbre's quest "Elemental Task" were resolved. That was one of the many issues I addressed in the last week.

Methriln

06-03-2009, 02:18 AM

oh lol never saw that had to scroll down on factions tab <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" />edit- Also was the eastern lord rider in kj ment to not give u the other quest he had for staying in kj? I took the 1 to run the items back to fens but he wouldnt give me the other 1 after.

Methriln

06-03-2009, 03:42 AM

Edit-Nm i found what i was looking for

jAsOnX_Guk

06-03-2009, 10:01 AM

I'm working on the quest Chilled to the Bones, part of the new Kylong Plains line. Journal says I have to kill crumblinb spurbones, iksar skeletons just north of Dreg's Landing. The NPC text said "shardbone skeletons". I've killed literally tons of crumbling spurbones and either I've been very unlucky or there is something wrong somewhere. The previous quest in the line (Break the ice) asked for 6 weapon racks but I was only able to find 4. Luckily they reset and so I was able to click 2 of those 4 on the next day to get the update. But something should be wrong there too. Thanks

Novusod

06-03-2009, 11:22 AM

Has anyone figured out the No Word from the Field quest in JW? The dead agent of danak corpses don't seem to give updates and neither does killing the hidden order of Rime mobs.

Methriln

06-03-2009, 12:45 PM

For chilled to the bone ive killed all the spurbones in the area and not gotten the update, is it just that rare or another bug?

Kaitheel

06-03-2009, 04:26 PM

Thanks for letting us know about the issue with "Chilled to the Bones". As for zixka's quest "No Word from the Field" it did have a problem, which I resolved yesterday. That fix has not made it to the Test servers, yet.

Neskonlith

06-03-2009, 06:07 PM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Neskonlith, The Order of Rime Faction should be listed under the faction tab "Unknown" as it is not a city, or a known continent faction.Casting the Rime illusion does not negatively affect your character's true Order of Rime Faction, it adds to it (until you reach a certain amount).And you are correct that with the update to the Test servers today the Water Elemental and Earth elemental issues for Skelbre's quest "Elemental Task" were resolved. That was one of the many issues I addressed in the last week.</blockquote>Excellent! Thanks muchly - and I, too, did not see the scrolling option for the "unknown" before!oops lol

Kaitheel

06-04-2009, 02:59 PM

I made some more changes yesterday, including, but not limited to:The Order of Rime illusion now grants even more Rime faction!Fens of NathsarThe cursecleaner claw Pudge provides for his quest "Dragonbone Weapon Parts" continues to work even after you have slain the dragonbone larva.Shaman Tibler's quest "Blessing Components" now specifies that green puffball mushrooms are needed not dragonbone stones.

Neskonlith

06-04-2009, 08:15 PM

The Rime quest "Task of the Rider" in KJ needs a player to talk to Kyena, the Eastern Lord, and the quest journal says that Ride Watcher Zakor can help in locating Kyena much like asking a guard directions - but when I hail Zakor, I am unable to get any sort of dialogue to help locate.Is this a faction issue or a bug?

Kaitheel

06-04-2009, 09:48 PM

Neskonlith,If you are having a hard time getting Ride Watcher Zakor to give you the "find NPC" option, then the issue is faction based. Guards will not help you find other NPCs unless you are apprehensive or better. Be sure that you are using your Rime illusion to help raise your faction. But if this does not raise your faction with the Order enough, then it will once my changes from yesterday hit the Test servers. (The illusion grants more faction now!)

Methriln

06-05-2009, 12:33 AM

<cite>Jasonx@Guk wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm working on the quest Chilled to the Bones, part of the new Kylong Plains line. Journal says I have to kill crumblinb spurbones, iksar skeletons just north of Dreg's Landing. The NPC text said "shardbone skeletons". I've killed literally tons of crumbling spurbones and either I've been very unlucky or there is something wrong somewhere. The previous quest in the line (Break the ice) asked for 6 weapon racks but I was only able to find 4. Luckily they reset and so I was able to click 2 of those 4 on the next day to get the update. But something should be wrong there too. Thanks </blockquote>I found all 6 racks for the quest without having to wait on a reset. Also in jw are u supposed to be able to examine the crates to get a quest for the rime? because it wont let me if you are it just highlights and says what evers in the crate. Also I found a bug for the quests fishing for faction and set of bone plates were it will not let u drop of the items after u have collected them all. Just tells whats in the crates like in jw

menolly1

06-06-2009, 08:09 PM

What is the faction amount required to get the quests for the Burynai? I have a little over 15,000 and Pulnil doesn't offer a quest or direct me to another npc.

Enoa

06-07-2009, 07:19 AM

<cite>menolly1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>What is the faction amount required to get the quests for the Burynai? I have a little over 15,000 and Pulnil doesn't offer a quest or direct me to another npc.</blockquote>Was having the same issue at 8k. I grinded faction to 41k and still no new quests off the burynai. Perhaps there is a quest prequisite from another npc in the zone(s).

Maroger

06-07-2009, 04:02 PM

Order of Rime - Faction. Can you get positive Faction with the Rime folk? All the quests in Kylong plaine have you kill them so that by now my faction with them is in the toilet. Although I see no "Unknown" faction listed so I have no idea what my real faction is -- although apparently it can't get any worse.Connecting the Dots - Could not find the 2nd scout. Saw a light but went up and around and found nothing? Could this be better explained in the quest notes or maybe something put on the map?

Duomos

06-08-2009, 03:18 AM

<cite>Enoa@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>menolly1 wrote:</cite><blockquote>What is the faction amount required to get the quests for the Burynai? I have a little over 15,000 and Pulnil doesn't offer a quest or direct me to another npc.</blockquote>Was having the same issue at 8k. I grinded faction to 41k and still no new quests off the burynai. Perhaps there is a quest prequisite from another npc in the zone(s).</blockquote>Talk to Merrik Hanz in Kunzar Jungle and complete the quests Clean Out the Caves followed by Everybody Loves a Snitch (which leads you to Pulnil).

Gamer1965

06-08-2009, 12:46 PM

<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote>Connecting the Dots - Could not find the 2nd scout. Saw a light but went up and around and found nothing? Could this be better explained in the quest notes or maybe something put on the map?</blockquote>If you use EQ2Maps then the second scout is listed. My EQ2Maps didn't have the first scout listed <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />He's on top of a very large rock, a little northwest of Karnor's Castle, right between the territory patrolled by the Hillcrusher Giants and Drolvarg.

Bhagpuss

06-08-2009, 05:11 PM

<cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite><blockquote>For the quest, "Enter the Jungle", I jumped off cliff by Eastern Pens into the river below and ran on the beach to KJ, and there was no quest mob popping.I went back into Fens, and this time I swam in the croc infested water while invis from the lift area towards KJ and finally got the lazy iksar update mob to spawn - perhaps it might be worth moving that mob pop closer to KJ since I suspect many people will BASE jump the massive fall into water for fun rather than take the boring lift ride to the river down below?</blockquote>I also think this needs some tweaking. On my first attempt I intentionally used the route I would have taken to go from Fens to Kunzar in normal circumstances, just to test whether the quest was able to catch my shortcuts.I took the Sokokars to the Eastern Pens of Riliss, then followed the path until the lift. I didn't use the lift but carried on along the flat rocks as far as possible, then, with my hang-glider (aka Cloak of the Harvester) on I jumped off and glided down, passing into Kunzar Jungle before hitting the round.I wasn't in the least surprised to find that didn't update. I zoned back into Fens and, invisible, rode on my mount along the beach to the lift. Nothing. I went up and down the lift. Nothing. I tried it visible. Nothing. I went up and back to East Riliss Pens, then came back along the road, down the lift, along the beach and zoned. Nothing. I tried the opposite beach. Nothing. I went to the opposite end of the cleft. Nothing.By this point, although I could think of more variations, I thought I might have bugged the quest by zoning without the update, soi deleted it and went back to Fens and took it again. This time I got off the Sokokar at West Pens and rode along the path to the lift. Took the lift down, rode along the beach, visible this time. Nothing. I went back up and was about to ride back along the opposite side of the cleft when I thought I'd tab out and read this thread.Finding Neskonlith's post I took the lift back down, invised and swam the length of the river. Finally the Iksar spawned and, along with a crocodile, attacked me and I got my update.It seems to me that where the Iksar finally spawned was about the least likely place anyone would naturally pass through on that journey. I know the quest asks you to follow the river, but it doesn't say swim along it! And why would you? It's full of crocodiles, while the beach is safe.I'd say the only point along that route you can guarantee someone will pass through is the actual zone itself, and as I found, even then you don't have to be on the ground. Since it would be too late to have the Iksar spawn just as you zone, I can only suggest a dirty great trigger box right across a large volume of the entire cleft from the zoneline to about a hundred yards back.

Maroger

06-08-2009, 05:22 PM

<cite>Mindor@Permafrost wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote>Connecting the Dots - Could not find the 2nd scout. Saw a light but went up and around and found nothing? Could this be better explained in the quest notes or maybe something put on the map?</blockquote>If you use EQ2Maps then the second scout is listed. My EQ2Maps didn't have the first scout listed <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />He's on top of a very large rock, a little northwest of Karnor's Castle, right between the territory patrolled by the Hillcrusher Giants and Drolvarg.</blockquote>Thanks I was looking up on the mountains byt the Yeti -- My version of EQ2maps is from Live so I suspect it doesn't have the scouts on it.Thanks again.

Kaitheel

06-08-2009, 07:18 PM

Methriln, the rime containers will offer you a quest once you have enough faction with the Order. As for the fishing crate and bone plate box in Kunzar, I'll check them out.Menolly1, Duomos is correct. The burynai quests continue the Bellywhumper faction quests and pick up right where they left off, previously. Be sure to do Merrik Hanz's quest "Everyone Loves a Snitch" in Kunzar Jungle.Maroger, yes you can get positive Faction with the Order of Rime.As for the troubles some of you have had with "Enter the Jungle" seems three possible spawns along the river were not enough, so I'll see about making it more.

menolly1

06-10-2009, 12:43 PM

Is faction required for the new quest line in JW? Zixka Slizzis is not offering me a quest. I didn't think the new quest series was faction dependent.

Kaitheel

06-10-2009, 02:33 PM

Menolly1, faction is not needed for Zixka Slizzis's quests, but her quests are part of the Legion of Danak quest line (and reward that faction), hence why she is placed in their quest camp. You need to complete Lance Corporal Sonoriss's quest, "Heads Off to the Sergeant" to get her quest.

Baoltaf

06-11-2009, 12:31 AM

Can some one tell me where to find the fire elemental for the quest Elemental Test? I have been all though the mines and have seen no signs of any. The skellies for Chilled to the Bone quest are near the gash of T'Thelin.

irish

06-11-2009, 08:09 AM

Fire pit near nuroga to the right once in tunnels.

Maroger

06-11-2009, 10:14 AM

<cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Maroger, yes you can get positive Faction with the Order of Rime.</blockquote>If you can get faction with them, why does the game start off with quests for killing them putting your faction in the toilet and making it much longer and harder to raise that faction. That does not seem right.Faction grinds are a PITA but forcing you to go really negative before you can start to raise the faction does not seem a good design or is it fair to the players.

Kaitheel

06-11-2009, 02:54 PM

<cite>Maroger wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kaitheel wrote:</cite><blockquote>Maroger, yes you can get positive Faction with the Order of Rime.</blockquote>If you can get faction with them, why does the game start off with quests for killing them putting your faction in the toilet and making it much longer and harder to raise that faction. That does not seem right.Faction grinds are a PITA but forcing you to go really negative before you can start to raise the faction does not seem a good design or is it fair to the players.</blockquote>Maroger, killing members of the Order does not lower your faction with them by much (-25) as compared with their quests which award between 800 and 2600, but more importantly, you start off -50,000 faction with the Order of Rime. That is as bad as you can get! Killing them at that point will not give you worse faction. It cannot be lowered past that point. Additionally, this is similar to other factions in Kunark where you can gain and lose those factions, no matter what type of pain you think it is.

Baoltaf

06-12-2009, 05:44 AM

I have yet to have a fire elemental spawn at the fire pit in the mines. unless there is a trick to getting them to pop, this is going to be a problem once it goes live with all the people tring to get them.

Bhagpuss

06-12-2009, 12:14 PM

<cite>Baoltaf wrote:</cite><blockquote>I have yet to have a fire elemental spawn at the fire pit in the mines. unless there is a trick to getting them to pop, this is going to be a problem once it goes live with all the people tring to get them.</blockquote>I think something has changed on this. I did it a few days back and had no problem at all. As soon as I entered the room with the lava pit, the fire elemental shot out of the pit and attacked me and I got my update.Last night, however, my girlfriend took her Bruiser over there to complete "Elemental Tasks" and there was no sign of the elemental. She was in the exact place where it worked for me but nothing spawned. She even deleted the quest and started again, going to the fire elemental first instead of last, but still nothing.She bugged it in game but I thought I'd mention it here too.On the plus side, whereas it took me two hours to get the third rock elemental after I got the first two in 5 minutes, my GF got all of hers in one pull.