where are the shinies?

[pubear]

<p>Hadn't gone into mistmyr manor and everynight abbey on my bruiser in a month or so, and i couldn't find a single shiny in either zone.  Was able to kill the key mobs albeit with a healer.  Interesting fight.  But is there some trick to making the shinies spawn, or do they not exist?  Is there a mob that you have to kill or something?</p><p>Was told i needed to kill some regular mobs.  Which i did, but still no dice.  Do i have to do a mission?  Right now I just want to figure out what i need to do, and then i can figure out if i can do it or not.  Checked back through several months of update notes, and couldn't find anything to give me a clue.  So i'm guessing this was ninja'd in.</p><p>Is there something where you have to do things in a particular order, or where if a brawler enters a zone all shinies are turned off?  That would suck, since i only have one tank.  Do you have to read sacred words from a book?  Do all your combat arts in latin?</p><p>Couldn't find anything in any of the update notes on this, which would be nice, so i could figure out what's up.  No way can i afford to buy the ethernauts collection, and i dont have enough time to run zones with groups and hope that people aren't needing then they should be greeding and hoping i can get what i need.</p>

[Ranja]

<p><cite>pubear wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hadn't gone into mistmyr manor and everynight abbey on my bruiser in a month or so, and i couldn't find a single shiny in either zone.  Was able to kill the key mobs albeit with a healer.  Interesting fight.  But is there some trick to making the shinies spawn, or do they not exist?  Is there a mob that you have to kill or something?</p><p>Was told i needed to kill some regular mobs.  Which i did, but still no dice.  Do i have to do a mission?  Right now I just want to figure out what i need to do, and then i can figure out if i can do it or not.  Checked back through several months of update notes, and couldn't find anything to give me a clue.  So i'm guessing this was ninja'd in.</p><p>Is there something where you have to do things in a particular order, or where if a brawler enters a zone all shinies are turned off?  That would suck, since i only have one tank.  Do you have to read sacred words from a book?  Do all your combat arts in latin?</p><p>Couldn't find anything in any of the update notes on this, which would be nice, so i could figure out what's up.  No way can i afford to buy the ethernauts collection, and i dont have enough time to run zones with groups and hope that people aren't needing then they should be greeding and hoping i can get what i need.</p></blockquote><p>Are you level 80? If not, no shinies for jo!</p>

[feldon30]

If the zone gets scaled down below I believe level 78, then yes, the shinies will disappear. For example, a group of 80's with one 74 will I think scale the zone down too low.

[Aule]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>If the zone gets scaled down below I believe level 78, then yes, the shinies will disappear. For example, a group of 80's with one 74 will I think scale the zone down too low.</blockquote><p>So will a group of 5 80's.  </p><p>This is also based on what's in the zone when you initially zone in.  So if you have 5 people in zone, and one person in guildhall, then the zone gets nerfed.</p>

[pubear]

<p>no i'm not mentoring down, and all members of the party are zoning at the same time.  I think it just has to do with trying to solo the key mob at first until i realized that wasn't gonna happen, and on the second zone, i triggered the 3 names to go non agro before i gave up on trying to find any shinies and found out that you're supposed to kill something before they spawn.  Since i had already done stuff before i killed anything, it probably inadvertantly bugged the zone.</p>

[Nebbeny]

Doesn't matter if you have less than 6 people in a zone Aule, you will still have shinies, been into zones with 3 people and had shinies spawn. No idea why you wouldn't have shinies in MM though, been there and had plenty.

[Scythien]

<p><cite>Aule@Guk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So will a group of 5 80's.  </p><p>This is also based on what's in the zone when you initially zone in.  So if you have 5 people in zone, and one person in guildhall, then the zone gets nerfed.</p></blockquote><p>Zones scale to the average level of the group. So 80/5 = 80. I don't think 1 guy being in a different zone affects it either.</p><p><cite>pubear wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No way can i afford to buy the ethernauts collection, and i dont have enough time to run zones with groups and hope that people aren't needing then they should be greeding and hoping i can get what i need.</p></blockquote><p>If you can't invest the time or effort to get it the way you're supposed to, then don't expect to.</p><p>They've probably changed them with similar motivation to the key mobs for the shard chests, to stop people <em>soloing</em> rewards from <em>group </em>instances.</p>

[pubear]

<p><cite>Scythienne@Splitpaw wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you can't invest the time or effort to get it the way you're supposed to, then don't expect to.</p></blockquote><p>Truly your kung fu is righteous.  So thanks for the answer.  haha. </p><p>Well regardless, i figured out what needed to be done.  I got better and less self righteous answers than I expected for the most part.  I do appreciate the folks that actually tried to help.  It was appreciated.</p>