Kurn's Tower, Breaching the Void (Heroic): Rewards

[Reahov]

<p>Please express your thoughts on drops, treasure, and collectibles here.</p>

[Hecula]

<p>Most names are not itemized at this time. We only got 1 piece of loot off of the last name.</p>

[Galithdor]

<p>Yeah...no loot as of yet...cant wait to see the rewards though...<img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Pexsus]

<p><img src="http://www.mojo-rising.org/gu52/vest.jpg" width="654" height="370" /></p><p>Honestly, I dont know what I was expecting, but I was kinda under-whelmed with this.  Maybe I just dont know what is "nice" for a Brawler DPS item these days.  One thing I will note, the "shiney" blue effect is cool but it seems to have problems rendering properly in certain places.  dunno if my video card was just glitchy or what.</p>

[Freliant]

<p>graphics wise, that is a sweet looking Gi... I bet on a non-stumpy-legged dwarfy, it would look great! But yes... the effects are less than impressive... however, the difficulty of the zone I hear is not that high, so this is appropriete.</p><p>Great farming location for cool looking outfits.</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Lots of <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">-Effects</span></strong>. So another Shard of Hate as far as itemization? Items with obvious flaws that folks will still use situationally?</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Lots of <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">-Effects</span></strong>. So another Shard of Hate as far as itemization? Items with obvious flaws that folks will still use situationally?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not convinced anyone would ever use the item posted...</p><p>Maybe if it was level 68 to equip...</p>

[Freliant]

<p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Lots of <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">-Effects</span></strong>. So another Shard of Hate as far as itemization? Items with obvious flaws that folks will still use situationally?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not convinced anyone would ever use the item posted...</p><p>Maybe if it was level 68 to equip...</p></blockquote><p>The only T8 effects on that item are the 7 dps and the 175 spell and combat increase... the rest of the stats, and the -stats do make it look very much a T7 drop, like you said Atan. There is one part of the leather piece though that might just be a bug due to a guardian in T2 (or T4 gear) inspecting it... and that is the 423 mitigation. That is roughly 20% more mitigation than any other legendary leather piece in the game.</p><p>If someone else without mitigation + items can inspect this, it will really help in seeing its desireability.</p>

[Yimway]

<p><cite>Freliant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Lots of <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">-Effects</span></strong>. So another Shard of Hate as far as itemization? Items with obvious flaws that folks will still use situationally?</p></blockquote><p>I'm not convinced anyone would ever use the item posted...</p><p>Maybe if it was level 68 to equip...</p></blockquote><p>The only T8 effects on that item are the 7 dps and the 175 spell and combat increase... the rest of the stats, and the -stats do make it look very much a T7 drop, like you said Atan. There is one part of the leather piece though that might just be a bug due to a guardian in T2 (or T4 gear) inspecting it... and that is the 423 mitigation. That is roughly 20% more mitigation than any other legendary leather piece in the game.</p><p>If someone else without mitigation + items can inspect this, it will really help in seeing its desireability.</p></blockquote><p>I assumed he had atleast +7 mitigation bonus on the examine.</p><p>7dps is laughable honestly, the CA increase is the only thing of interest, and given the rest of the stats, its vendor fodder.</p>

[Hecula]

<p>BTW - the quest from the dead Burynai at the top of the tunnel was broken. We searched all the other dead Burynai for the items, but never found any of them.</p>

[Freliant]

<p>No drops in the zone cept for last guy. Dropped the same item that was stated above. And its normal mitigation is 305... which is around what a legendary chestpiece of that tier has.</p><p>The zone needs to be itemized.</p>

[Kander]

<p>Yeah, treasure should be hooked up soon.</p>

[Novusod]

<p>No brawler would ever wear that thing. It might be good for a melee speced warden or bard but not a brawler. Brawlers still need their avoidance even while not tanking because of their transfer avoidance buff.</p>

[Lord Hackenslash]

<p><cite>Pexsus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><img src="http://www.mojo-rising.org/gu52/vest.jpg" width="654" height="370" /></p><p>Honestly, I dont know what I was expecting, but I was kinda under-whelmed with this.  Maybe I just dont know what is "nice" for a Brawler DPS item these days.  One thing I will note, the "shiney" blue effect is cool but it seems to have problems rendering properly in certain places.  dunno if my video card was just glitchy or what.</p></blockquote><p>I would suggest removing the deflection penalty. If I understand this item correctly. All scouts and fighters only have the parry and defense penalty affect them. Brawleers are the only class that is hit by the deflection penalty for an additional loss in excess of the other classes. Additionally healers only have defense so they only are affected by one penalty, though i do not feel this is unbalanced in the case of healers who have minimal avoidance in the first place.</p>

[Haciv]

<p>The Gi is pretty hot.  175 Spell and CA is a LOT.   The other Blue Stats seem OK but not great.</p><p>If there's another heroic instanced Gi that is even remotely close to this one (offensively), that is currently in game, I'd be suprised.</p><p>TBH, I'll prolly pick one of these up for a lot of my melee toons, even my plate tanks.</p>

[feldon30]

<p>Doesn't look that amazing to me. Aren't most brawlers capped on +CA damage anyway?</p>

[feldon30]

<p>dupe</p>

[Klaktar]

<p>That gi is a piece of crap, especially for loot off the last named mob. Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail > Void-Touched Kunarkian Vest.</p>

[Kizee]

<p>I love the idea of situational gear that has a penelty on it however the + side of the gear really has to make it worth wild for the negitive.</p><p>That piece of loot isn't any better than normal legendary loot with no penelties.</p>

[Haciv]

<p><cite>Cybele@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That gi is a piece of crap, especially for loot off the last named mob. Gi of the Jarsath Swifttail > Void-Touched Kunarkian Vest.</p></blockquote><p>4MC + 2DPS > 2MC + 2DA + 7DPS + 175DMG ?</p>

[Kordran]

<p>Honestly, any brawler who would wear that thing is brain damaged. Plain and simple. It's transmute fodder, nothing else.</p>

[Neskonlith]

<p><cite>Kordran wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's transmute fodder, nothing else.</p></blockquote><p>It can be useful in that it presents a new appearance option for players.</p>

[Kordran]

<p><cite>Neskonlith wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kordran wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's transmute fodder, nothing else.</p></blockquote><p>It can be useful in that it presents a new appearance option for players.</p></blockquote><p>Okay, but I think that fluff should be the last concern. Heck, if they want to add a new blue spacesuit gi, put it on the Marketplace or whatever. But with zone itemization, what counts are the stats/effects, not how it looks IMO.</p>

[smokedout]

<p>Any halfway Respected Brawler wouldnt wear that at 80... BUT if those 3 -10 Stats got turned around to +10 for each it might be a consideration.. otherwise, meh just get the t2 shard stuff.</p>

[UNTILitSLEEPS]

<p>the new crimson robe of adrenalin should be priest usableedit: linkylink: aITEM 945192130 -479144426:Void-touched Kunarkian Robe/a</p>

[Obsidiann]

<p><cite>UNTILitSLEEPS wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>the new crimson robe of adrenalin should be priest usableedit: linkylink: aITEM 945192130 -479144426:Void-touched Kunarkian Robe/a</p></blockquote><p>Really? Why?</p><p>Let's hear your argument. The original robe shouldn't have even been priest usable IMO. It's cloth, it has mage stats, it decreases mage stats and, well, it's a robe, which with the exception of a few brawler robes, are traditionally mage gear.</p><p>Also find it funny that they're so out of ideas they're mostly recreating SOF loot. Budget issues huh?</p>

[Bruener]

<p>Does this mean we are going to see a new Choker, the single item that has lasted through more expansions than any other heroic item....woot!</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Obsidiann wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Also find it funny that they're so out of ideas they're mostly recreating SOF loot. Budget issues huh?</blockquote><p>While true, the fact that a decient number of raiders wear the SoF robe means it needs a direct upgrade, much like the choker did (and still does outside of contested mobs).</p><p>I would rather see this be priest usable. The fact that it is cloth means it is mage usable, but as such does not specifically limit other classes from using it. The simple fact that it is a direct upgrade to the SoF robe means it should be avalible to all that are using that robe.</p><p>Edit: the only way I would be happy with this not being avalible to healers is if they have another option with the same basic principle, but more tailored to healers.</p><p>Knowing Fyreflyte, I would not be at all supprised to see this.</p>

[Noaani]

<p>A point worth making for both heroic instances is to make sure you have a few items on the loot tables that are tradeable. I've obviously not seen full loot tables of either zone, but I feel its worth mentioning reguardless.</p><p>Going to all the effort of making some of the loot from TSO tradeable and then implementing these instances without any would be somewhere between odd and counterproductive.</p>

[Odys]

<p>Do not compare the item to t3/t4 ones, they comme from the heroic instance. 175 CA is a ton and 7dps is 7% (unless you are capped). Most brawlers are playing as damage dealers.</p><p>My warden would  love that to solo if she was allowed to wear it.</p><p>If you compare that armor with other legendary drops from TSO i'm not sure that it is that bad. I wear leather and monks are rare, so i got many leather pieces from TSO instances, chest ones seem to be rares and often specialized (vampire, undeads, etc ..) i don't remember seing a leather chest piece with better damage oriented fetures.</p><p>The target difficulty being mira3 (moderate) this may be a good upgrade for a t1 wearer or someone partially in t2.</p><p>Note the set bonuses make out of set pieces of armor quite useless, you can skip one piece of t1/t2 and still get the set bonus which depending on classes can be very welcome (in the warden case the bonus is not really that important, according to act it does not feed much the group in mana).</p>

[Enoa]

<p><cite>UNTILitSLEEPS wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>the new crimson robe of adrenalin should be priest usableedit: linkylink: aITEM 945192130 -479144426:Void-touched Kunarkian Robe/a</p></blockquote><p>Should add -10 ministration and make priest usable!</p>

[Arathy]

<p>We need to get away from this Over the Top gear that has been excelating ever since Shard of Hate.</p><p>This piece is a step in the right direction, sadly the mindset of players has changed with overpowered gear (hence the "this is crap" comments)</p><p>It's going to take SOE a bit of time to get back to realistic gear, and sadly this is one of the pieces that will get lost in the transition.. If they even decide to make a transition away from these pieces with a grocery list of stats and effects.</p>

[Zibleez]

<p>So a fabled T2 brig here, and this thing just dropped today.  Choices were:</p><p>Dauntless Void-link Chest</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>1 DA</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>25 CA</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>20 seconds/minute of +12% double attack</p><p>This BP</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>7 DPS</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>2 MC</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>2 DA</p><p><span style="white-space: pre;"> </span>175 CA</p><p>There's no debate there as to which one is a better dps piece in this tier.  There's nothing wrong with this item for what it does - if I were dps'ing as my bruiser, I'd love to have this piece  as well.  Is it a T8 fabled quality piece?  Hell no.  But it's as good as drops from other dungeons of this difficulty, if not better.</p>

[Kizee]

<p>Are there any healing priest rewards in this zone?</p><p>The last guy dropped a pretty darn nice fabled scout item....especially for how easy the zone is. All the legendary stuff looked like t5 stuff it was so bad.</p><p>No, I don't have the stats because I was pretty burnt after doing that stupid access quest that you needed to camp a [Removed for Content] named that everybody else and thier brother on the server was camping.</p>

[Huntress Jellica]

<p><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Are there any healing priest rewards in this zone?</p><p>The last guy dropped a pretty darn nice fabled scout item....especially for how easy the zone is. All the legendary stuff looked like t5 stuff it was so bad.</p><p>No, I don't have the stats because I was pretty burnt after doing that stupid access quest that you needed to camp a [Removed for Content] named that everybody else and thier brother on the server was camping.</p></blockquote><p>The fabled scout item was a wrist item:</p><h1><h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;"></span></h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: #ffffff; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">3 DA</span></h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: #ffffff; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">3 RDA</span></h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: #ffffff; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">+25 CA dmg</span></h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: #ffffff; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">Proc: +3 DA and +3 base CA damage for 12 seconds.</span></h1><h1><span style="font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; color: #000000; font-family: Verdana; mso-bidi-font-weight: bold;">I has a good memory <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" /></span></h1></h1></h1><p>Any reason why the proc is only DA, and not RDA though? Seems like it would be better off being +MC and RC, to complement the double attack.</p>

[Lader]

<p><cite>UNTILitSLEEPS wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>the new crimson robe of adrenalin should be priest usableedit: linkylink: aITEM 945192130 -479144426:Void-touched Kunarkian Robe/a</p></blockquote><p>There is a priest version. its -10 focus/ministration/and i think ordination, +10 casting speed, +5% power cost on spells. 125hp/100pwr, some stats and a couple resists. It was defiler/mystic only.</p>

[Kizee]

<p><cite>Lader wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>UNTILitSLEEPS wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>the new crimson robe of adrenalin should be priest usableedit: linkylink: aITEM 945192130 -479144426:Void-touched Kunarkian Robe/a</p></blockquote><p>There is a priest version. its -10 focus/ministration/and i think ordination, +10 casting speed, +5% power cost on spells. 125hp/100pwr, some stats and a couple resists. It was defiler/mystic only.</p></blockquote><p>Why would it be defiler/mystic only..... unless there is another version for plate healers.</p><p>Also...why would people use that over the Crimson robe since you are taking a double hit on power cost with the +5% power cost and - minstration.</p>

[Lader]

<p>i got it last night, its chain defiler/mystic only. i looted it since i was the only one who could use, i like +casting speed, and power isnt an issue. Alandine may be just as useful, but im just pointing out that there is a version that was made for (some) priests. maybe theres a plate/leather healer on his table also, i dunno.</p><p>edit- i just logged in and looked at it, i had the stats wrong.</p><p>it has 2 heal crit and +50 to heals. +249 to all resists, +28 to str/sta/wis/int, +100hp, +135pwr</p>

[Kizee]

<p><cite>Lader wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i got it last night, its chain defiler/mystic only. i looted it since i was the only one who could use, i like +casting speed, and power isnt an issue. Alandine may be just as useful, but im just pointing out that there is a version that was made for (some) priests. maybe theres a plate/leather healer on his table also, i dunno.</p><p>edit- i just logged in and looked at it, i had the stats wrong.</p><p>it has 2 heal crit and +50 to heals. +249 to all resists, +28 to str/sta/wis/int, +100hp, +135pwr</p></blockquote><p>Power wasn't an issue unthil this GU you mean. =P</p><p>With the nerf to procs the power returned has gone down quite a bit.... of course I have only run 1 zone with changes so I don't have a big sample.</p><p>I hope there is some cleric rewards in here.....the rewards in TSO thus far have been very disapointing.</p><p>Fyreflyte seems to think throwing some random stats on plate and making it cleric usable is itemizing for clerics.</p>