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Meirril
05-14-2009, 02:50 AM
<p>I'd like to hear what you all think will be the direction Lore will take when the next expansion is revealed at Fan Fair?</p><p>I've got a few notions of my own but I'd like to here what you think first.</p>

Greyquill
05-14-2009, 03:11 AM
<p>It's hard to ignore the sudden and prolific inclusions of the Quellithulian erudites. We're most likely going to Odus.</p><p>Vague memories from EQ1 as a badly underutilized zone... newbie Erudites smashing Kobolds into paste in Toxxulia Forest... running to the library in Erud to buy spell upgrades... laggy boat rides dumping you in the sea near the Sisters' Isle... Paineel... The Hole...</p><p>No personal experience in some of the zones... but there is some potential there. The Warrens, The Barren Coast, Stonebrunt Mountains...</p>

Cusashorn
05-14-2009, 09:19 AM
<p><cite>Greyquill wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It's hard to ignore the sudden and prolific inclusions of the Quellithulian erudites. We're most likely going to Odus.</p><p>Vague memories from EQ1 as a badly underutilized zone... newbie Erudites smashing Kobolds into paste in Toxxulia Forest... running to the library in Erud to buy spell upgrades... laggy boat rides dumping you in the sea near the Sisters' Isle... Paineel... The Hole...</p><p>No personal experience in some of the zones... but there is some potential there. The Warrens, The Barren Coast, Stonebrunt Mountains...</p></blockquote><p>Yes, because everyone knows that just because the zones were crummy in EQlive, they have to be the same here..</p><p>All sarcasm aside, All of Odus contained by far my favorite environments. The coral-colored marble city of Erudin with the transporter stones. The Basalt and Granite city of Paineel built right into the cliffside of the Hole... Both cities were just magnificently beautiful.</p><p>Stonebrundt Mountains with it's snow-peaked mountains, waterfalls, and bamboo forests (ok, so they didn't actually show bamboo, but you know they were there.)</p><p>Kerra Isle was great. The Kerran tribe had a distinctly polynesian build to their fishing village.</p><p>Erud's Crossing with it's volcanic tropical island. There was a shipwreck underwater on the north side, and every now and then I'd see a mermaid swimming through the water. The music on the island was really cool as well.</p><p>Even the Hole itself had a dangerous beauty about it. I always wished I could just explore the ruined buildings of Old Paineel down there without being attacked by ghosts and such.</p><p>If Odus comes back just as detailed as I remember it, I'll be in heaven.</p>

shadowscale
05-14-2009, 10:59 AM
<p>so far nothing has come back as rememberd, i miss the old kunark still...</p>

Levikun
05-14-2009, 04:06 PM
<p>Do the chunks of Luclin contain magical properties? If they do, is it possible that we will find Erudite hoarding chunks of Luclin to find magical properties in them to further benefit them? You think that Odus (what was their city called again?) is a flying city now and below it is a flooded marsh? Is there a Godzilla sized Ratonga coming out of the hole? Will Paineel still be the coolest city ever?!</p>

Vanisher123
05-14-2009, 05:35 PM
<p>Some one hit me if this is wrong, but I could have sworn a dev said before TSO came out thats Odus was moving through space/time/dimenions/somthing or other as the erudites got bored or somthing after morphing themselves? Because if this is true, then Odus could definently fit in with the current trend of realm/time hopping.</p>

Cusashorn
05-14-2009, 06:10 PM
<p>The magic from the Quellithulian ritual supposedly did something to the entire continent, and it can't be reached or seen by boat or through the naked eye anymore.</p>

Rainmare
05-15-2009, 04:15 AM
<p>Personally, I want to go to Velious, adn Odus can rot. it was a tiny little spit of an area in eq1, and had virtually nothing of real interest to most people outside of the hole. stonebrunt mountains really became just a run through point after the Gunthak pirates showed up.</p><p>granted, the zones looked nice. I'll agree with Cusa there that the look of Erudin and Paineel and stonebrunt were nice. but looks won't do much now, and didn't do much then. for as good looking as Erudin was...there was just no reason to go there, unless you were a newbie erudite, or a paladin doing part of your epic. it was all looks, and no flesh to it.</p><p>Velious has more to offer, honestly...at least just going by what we know was there in Eq1. the idea that ToV may still be there, as well as the Kromrif and the Coldain, the Tower of Frozen Shadow, the Ry'gorr orcs. what became of the Othmir, the Wakening Lands. is there still a path to Growth or Mischef out there? what (or whom) rests now in the vacated Sleeper's Tomb? the Dragon Necroplois that rested there. is Zladicar still around? does Mayong still have his subordinate drachnids there? not to mention things like is Dozkar still being punished? will we ever find out who Kera's mother was? the amusing trophy text on Venekor hints we might see him again. best odds at that would be I'd wager Velious.</p><p>Odus has the Kerra...and maybe, if we're lucky and the fates are generous, a tribe of pure Vah Shir someplace. (Still a sore spot with me that they took the Vah shir and mutated them into that horrible, wretched thing they call a kerran. I mean really. they were physically, and spiritually imo and game wise....superior to the Kerra. if anything they should have outbred/had the biggest effect on looks.) they have the Qellthulians. and the Kobolds of the Warrens...and the undead in the Hole. that's about all that's there. there's not even a good/evil split in the Erudites anymore, as they have merged into the Quellthulians.</p><p>granted they can always add things and subract them...but I'm partial to Velious. some of my best memories are there. the Tower, the Rygorr Chief, the prayer shawl/ring war...plane of growth/mischef.</p><p>and my favorite quest/weapon graphic ever, the Nature's Defender. my tunare only Paladin epic equal..ah memories.</p>

Cusashorn
05-15-2009, 01:34 PM
<p>They *DID* have the biggest effects on looks. You evolved from a 4 foot scrawny kitten into a 7 foot brute.</p>

Mary the Prophetess
05-15-2009, 08:41 PM
<p>My guess is that it will be Odus first, followed by the Underfoot, and finally Vellious.</p>

Morghus
05-15-2009, 08:48 PM
<p>Meh, I personally hate Odus and anything erudite related. Only ever went there twice. First time to jump into the newly released hole. Second time was to terrorize new players starting there with that "play as a monster" thing they had for a while.</p>

kittenkabood
05-15-2009, 08:58 PM
<p>They barely put out moors of ykesha on time and it is still an abomination which is never used after you get your AA from it, I fail to see the dev team even try to implement half of velious.</p>

Cusashorn
05-15-2009, 09:41 PM
<p>Oh ye of little faith. Look at Kunark if you don't trust the devs.</p>

kittenkabood
05-15-2009, 09:57 PM
<p>That expansion was made 2 years ago, its not going to be repeated.</p>

Rezikai
05-15-2009, 10:28 PM
<p>See,.. like Rain was partial to Velious.. i was partial to Odus.</p><p>Reason being i played EQoA with the Odus we had in that game being a high level xp/quest/raid area continent. It was by far one of the most beautifull areas, and some of the funnest. From the start (depending on if you were good or evil as both had docks to land at) you had danger and fun. Alot like how Butcherblock/Moors are set up w/ the quest hubs at the zone in to the areas. Goodies went from Qeynos or Freeport, Baddies went from Freeport or Bogmans village (a small evil/neutral village on the west coast of Antonica).</p><p>The Goodies landed in Arcadin (later to be renamed Erudin),.. it was a city under contruction with outer walls and such, but much of it still being built. It had the large marble buildings with the EXTREMELY elderly erudite Erud, in the large marble mage tower talking to his students/peers about the future of this new grand library of Arcadin that they had started to contstruct.</p><p>Evils landed at the Stone of Morthalis. Morthalis was the leader of the SK/Necro mancers of the Erudite underground society of Highbourne (the erudite starter city on Antonica, the evils worked under the city in secret). There they enslaved the local Kerrans and adventures found the mutliple tribes of Kerrans/Vashir iirc and the questlines united them w/ the goodies. Paineel wasnt exactly what it was in EQ1 because the Hole hadn't been dug into and caused the ground to sink in, although the city was using the Kerran slave labor to dig large holes as such that could lead to it.</p><p>The "Hole" area was a jungle area with Kobolds caleld "The Hunt". Toxxulia forest was 3 huge zones for high end quests/xp and in the center had Toxxulia's lair, a large raid zone with many raid mobs (the red cloud of death idr the name of it) and the poison Mistress herslef Toxxulia. Stoneburnt Mountains were the home of one of the Kerra/Vash clans and had the Kobold fortress built into it as a huge, huge,.. contested dungeon. The South Barren coast, the Abysmal Sea all had good grind areas. The Gulf of Uzun and Cape dreg had the Pirates there, with the underground pirate cave (ala the Goonies) comeplete w/ old ghost pirate ship.</p><p>Eh and thats just <em>part </em>of what Odus of EQoA had,.. i didnt even get into the Gargoyle caves or the Slithis Dwell Naga citadel with Kappa slaves, or the undead phantom dungeons of the grand plateau or the isles of Eruds Crossing, it was a beautifull and deadly continent... while I'm sure Velious holds the heartstrings for those in love w/ the Icy plains of a Dragon strewn continent i have to agree w/ Cusa, i miss the old Jungles and High men I met so long ago.</p>

ke'la
05-16-2009, 02:24 AM
<p><cite>kittenkaboodle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That expansion was made 2 years ago, its not going to be repeated.</p></blockquote><p>If you look at the amount of content and work put into the two expainsions (TSO and RoK) they are about Equal. The balance of the two expainsions in terms of content was way off, especally for TSO, but in terms of Total amount added they are about equil. I expect a RoK like expainsion if the Cap is raised(wich is a fairly good bet). Or another TSO style when with no cap raise(unlikly).</p><p>Unforuntally, it does not look like the devs have enough man power to have a truely balanced expainsion on the launch day. Wich is unfortunate.</p>

Meirril
05-16-2009, 05:04 AM
<p>I'm going to agree with the majority of people here. TSO is crawling with Quellthulians giving out quests and trying to gain power and information from not only three of the greatest mages in Norrath's history but also seem to have access to a source of "void shards" which they not only trade out like coin but accept as payment. They definately seem very interested in the whole void story line.</p><p>With the Dev given clue that Euradin is not readily accessable from Norrath and that they performed some grand ritual there that transformed all Euradites into their current form...it is certainly well within the realm of possability that the Quellthulians may have thrust Euradin either partially or fully into another dimension. With the heavy TSO interest it is easy to assume that Euradin is another anchor in the void, perhaps one controlled by Euradites rather than Shadowmen. That would be a way to attack/deal with Theer. I could certainly see that being the big raid for an Odus/Void based expansion.</p><p>Also you would have the Hole. With the shattering and the rending it is very believable that the cap was knocked out of alignment and nobody was alive to fix it. It is possible that instead of the Underfoot invading Norrath that the Dwarves of Kaladim entered the Underfoot because they found clues that lead them to the Vault of Brell. This could actually be the physical entrance left by Brell himself for his faithful to follow. Or it could just be an accident created by Euradites peaking into Things Men Were Not Ment To Know. You would see far more elementals than undead in the Hole. Who knows exactly what you'd find in the Underfoot...</p><p>There is the potential for a lot of Kerran lore to surface with an Odus expansion. Its practically guarenteed and wellcomed. They need more lore. The only race more lacking in Lore are the Ratonga. There is also a vauge possability that somehow when Velious exploded that Shar'Val may have somehow been transported *back* to Odus. It definately isn't likely, but you never know...</p><p>btw if it was I wouldn't expect there to be playable Va'shir. Unless they just modified the Kerran models it would take too much work to create another player race that looks very, very similar to the rest. You never know though.</p><p>I'm hoping that Mary is right and there is an expansion between Odus and Velious. The current pattern is a level increase every 2 expansions. If that happened Velious would be set for level 100. I think that is very appropriate. It would be even better if it was planned as a 2 expansion continent. Say you only "discover" half the continent and you have an entire year of Giant bashing before you get a second expansion where you go on to discover the fate of the Temple of Veshan plus other parts of the same continent. I'm in no rush to see the whole of Velious in a single expansion.</p>

DeBasilisk
05-16-2009, 03:39 PM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">"<span>There is the potential for a lot of Kerran lore to surface with an Odus expansion. Its practically guarenteed and wellcomed. They need more lore. The only race more lacking in Lore are the Ratonga."</span></span></p><p>Odus can kill two birds with one stone: Kerra lore being obvious, and Ratonga lore stemming from The Hole.</p><p>Erudin is almost certainly going to be a new good city. Paineel will be a high level dungeon. Toxullia will be a mid level overland solo zone, Warrens a high level dungeon. Kerra Isle may have some lower level content, as may the Barren Coast.</p><p>Stonebrunt will be a high level overland solo zone. Other dungeons will no doubt be present. There will not be a new player race, but, Erudites will be allowed to start with classic graphics if they begin in Erudin, which will be available to most good/neutral races, but not all. Probably, humans, erudites, all elves, maybe barbarians....No Kerrans for sure!</p><p>Void lore will be lessened. The big villain will be the dark lord Quellithule, the hideous demigod offspring of Cazic and Quellious, now bent on world domination with his undead army based out of Paineel. The whole experiment that the Erudites did sacrifieced something to him for something, but gave him great power, and messed some stuff up. Yep, I'm real specific there.</p><p>New epic armour quests will be made available. Although overt void lore will be lessened, Everling, Varsoon and Mayong are involved, somehow.</p><p>Maybe the undead spirit of Erud will return.</p><p>Thoughts?</p>

Cusashorn
05-16-2009, 05:04 PM
<p><cite>DeBasilisk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">"<span>There is the potential for a lot of Kerran lore to surface with an Odus expansion. Its practically guarenteed and wellcomed. They need more lore. The only race more lacking in Lore are the Ratonga."</span></span></p><p>Odus can kill two birds with one stone: Kerra lore being obvious, and Ratonga lore stemming from The Hole.</p><p>Erudin is almost certainly going to be a new good city. <span style="color: #3366ff;">Paineel will be a high level dungeon. </span>Toxullia will be a mid level overland solo zone, Warrens a high level dungeon. Kerra Isle may have some lower level content, as may the Barren Coast.</p><p>Stonebrunt will be a high level overland solo zone. Other dungeons will no doubt be present. <span style="color: #3366ff;">There will not be a new player race, but, Erudites will be allowed to start with classic graphics if they begin in Erudin,</span> which will be available to most good/neutral races, but not all. Probably, humans, erudites, all elves, maybe barbarians....No Kerrans for sure!</p><p>Void lore will be lessened. <span style="color: #3366ff;">The big villain will be the dark lord Quellithule, the hideous demigod offspring of Cazic and Quellious,</span> now bent on world domination with his undead army based out of Paineel. The whole experiment that the Erudites did sacrifieced something to him for something, but gave him great power, and messed some stuff up. Yep, I'm real specific there.</p><p>New epic armour quests will be made available. Although overt void lore will be lessened, Everling, Varsoon and Mayong are involved, somehow.</p><p>Maybe the undead spirit of Erud will return.</p><p>Thoughts?</p></blockquote><p>To have Erudin as a good city and NOT have Paineel as an evil city is kinda silly, in my opinion.</p><p>Vhalen confirmed that the ritual that changed the Erudites into what they are now changed every living existing erudite across the universe and all dimensions.</p><p>Finally, I know you're just tossing your thoughts out here, which I find humorous in a good way, but Quellithule isn't a diety. Why would a Good god and an Evil God give birth to an Evil God? Good + Evil = Evil? Now there has been the rumor that Quellious (good) and Cazic Thule (evil) ended up creating Terris Thule, the Goddess of Nightmares (evil), and Morrel Thule, the Dod of Dreams (Good), but that's never been confirmed. All the Erudites from both cities did was put aside thier ideological differences and came together to change thier race because they must have sensed that something big was going to happen. Something that would help thier race survive together if they became united again.</p>

Lodrelhai
05-16-2009, 05:19 PM
<p>Um... Quellious and Cazic Thule have offspring - Morrel and Terris, gods of Dreams and NIghtmares respectively.</p><p>I think the Quellithulians picked that name simply to represent their merging back into one community, rather than worshipping a twisted offspring of the two main Erudite gods.</p><p>Other than that, the Odus idea seems sound, especially as either a bridge to the Underfoot, or inclusive of it as part of the expansion.  The Quellithulian's have been showing up in more than just the Moors - they seem to be aligned with the droag from KoS as well.  So they may be a bridge not only to wrapping up the Void, but to what happened to Kerafyrm/the final fading of the dragons.</p><p>And of course, sooner or later we have to hit the Underfoot and find out what the ratonga/roekilik/ratilik are up to down there.  Anyone feel like visiting that mad telepath they worship?</p>

Meirril
05-16-2009, 08:11 PM
<p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Other than that, the Odus idea seems sound, especially as either a bridge to the Underfoot, or inclusive of it as part of the expansion.  The Quellithulian's have been showing up in more than just the Moors - they seem to be aligned with the droag from KoS as well.  So they may be a bridge not only to wrapping up the Void, but to what happened to Kerafyrm/the final fading of the dragons.</p><p>And of course, sooner or later we have to hit the Underfoot and find out what the ratonga/roekilik/ratilik are up to down there.  Anyone feel like visiting that mad telepath they worship?</p></blockquote><p>I'd be disappointed if the Underfoot had to compete with the wrap up of the Void storyline. It should have a full expansion of its own. Maybe an introduction/teaser in the next one and a full blown exploration in the second?</p><p>As for the Quellithulians in KoS I think they were less interested in supporting the dragons than they were in researching teleportation that Kerafyrm's followers shared a similar interest in. I believe they were in KoS mainly to further their own goals.</p>

Meirril
05-16-2009, 08:28 PM
<p>I don't think there will be a player city on Odus. If there is I'd bet it is on the Kerra controlled island and NOT Euradin. I'd also think it would be more of a neutral outpost rather than a good one. I know people are obsessing with the idea of a "good" city to "ballance" out the number of evil alligned cities. From a lore standpoint, it doesn't make any sense.</p><p>Euradin should contain Quellithulians. As the name implies, it is a combination of both Euradite factions. Some of them will be evil, some of them will still be good. Overall, the new faction should portray itself as neutral and mostly self-serving. They are out for the good of the Euradite race, and maybe all of Norrath. Who knows?</p><p>Euradin could also be a high level dungeon with many instances. An alternative senerio is that the Euradites knew of an impending void anchor that was going to be placed on Euradin. Taking measures to thwart the Shadowmen the Euradites begin their great ritual to subvert the magics of the anchor to their use. This has two unforseen side effects. The first is the ritual partially infuses all Euradites in all dimensions with extra planar power which in turn causes their mutation into their present form. The second side effect is that the entire continent is shifted into its own demi-realm which also causes the rending when the entire continent is ripped from Norrath.</p><p>Now with Euradin being the center of the ritual it has more instabilities than the rest of Odus. Its network of teleporters alter to where they lead not to different locations in Euradin, but to different dimensions. The teleporter to the Void proves to be an immediate threat and costs the Quellithulians dearly before they are able to errect sufficient magical barriers to stop a void invasion. Other portals offer tantalizing research possabilities...but by councle decree held off limits until the immediate threat has been nullified. That doesn't prevent the Quellithulians from offering rich rewards to adventurers willing to do "research" and gather "samples" for them...</p><p>This also leaves the rest of what is potentially a huge (or greatly diminished) continent to explore.</p><p>Again, this is an alternative to the above. Who knows what is really planned for the future?</p>

Cusashorn
05-16-2009, 10:06 PM
<p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Um... Quellious and Cazic Thule have offspring - Morrel and Terris, gods of Dreams and NIghtmares respectively.</p></blockquote><p>Yes but I don't think it's ever been proven or stated as true.</p>

Lodrelhai
05-17-2009, 12:31 AM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Um... Quellious and Cazic Thule have offspring - Morrel and Terris, gods of Dreams and NIghtmares respectively.</p></blockquote><p>Yes but I don't think it's ever been proven or stated as true.</p></blockquote><p>That I did not know.  Always heard the story as fact.  Now I'm curious.</p>

Zabjade
05-17-2009, 12:41 AM
<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Of course they could always Zig instead of Zag and add Highpass-and the rest of the Isles of Refuge, Kithikor, Forbidden, Straits of Twelve and more water zones...with and aquatic mount system perhaps that one guy got the sub working... Isle, Highguard.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I wouldn't Mind Velious or Odus (Although Velious and Black Panther armor for Monks is a draw.) </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Even Shard Hopping in space for "Shards of Luclin" would be fun ;p</span></p>

Cusashorn
05-17-2009, 01:07 AM
<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Of course they could always Zig instead of Zag and add Highpass-and the rest of the Isles of Refuge, Kithikor, Forbidden, Straits of Twelve and more water zones...with and aquatic mount system perhaps that one guy got the sub working... Isle, Highguard.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I wouldn't Mind Velious or Odus (Although Velious and Black Panther armor for Monks is a draw.) </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Even Shard Hopping in space for "Shards of Luclin" would be fun ;p</span></p></blockquote><p>Feh. Black Panther Armor was utter crap.</p>

ke'la
05-17-2009, 02:36 AM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Of course they could always Zig instead of Zag and add Highpass-and the rest of the Isles of Refuge, Kithikor, Forbidden, Straits of Twelve and more water zones...with and aquatic mount system perhaps that one guy got the sub working... Isle, Highguard.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I wouldn't Mind Velious or Odus (Although Velious and Black Panther armor for Monks is a draw.) </span></p><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">Even Shard Hopping in space for "Shards of Luclin" would be fun ;p</span></p></blockquote><p>Feh. Black Panther Armor was utter crap.</p></blockquote><p>What would your ideal Gi look like, just out of couriosity. Cause based on that name I invision a Solid Black Gi with Gold trim.</p>

Cusashorn
05-17-2009, 03:00 AM
<p>All I'm saying is that Black Panther armor from Iceclad Ocean wasn't anything special, not even for appearances.</p><p>As for my ideal gi, give me a Faydwer or Old-world style Sky Blue or Shaolin Orange gi and I would be happy. A black with gold trim would be awesome to see though.</p>

Xalmat
05-17-2009, 03:36 AM
<p>Now I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps there's a connection between Queen Cristanos Thex and The Void. It was never explained what power is possessing her presently.</p><p>The above explanations about Quellithulians all seem plasuble to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the next expansion had something to do with Odus.</p>

Cusashorn
05-17-2009, 03:47 AM
<p>I'll say this much about Odus. If the whole continent has been spirited away, we better not see that purple and pink sky with the galactic sized black hole that consumes everything in all of the zones of that expansion... Keep that stuff in the void. Give a normal sky to Odus.</p>

DeBasilisk
05-17-2009, 09:27 AM
<p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span><p>To have Erudin as a good city and NOT have Paineel as an evil city is kinda silly, in my opinion.</p><p>Vhalen confirmed that the ritual that changed the Erudites into what they are now changed every living existing erudite across the universe and all dimensions.</p><p>Finally, I know you're just tossing your thoughts out here, which I find humorous in a good way, but Quellithule isn't a diety. Why would a Good god and an Evil God give birth to an Evil God? Good + Evil = Evil? Now there has been the rumor that Quellious (good) and Cazic Thule (evil) ended up creating Terris Thule, the Goddess of Nightmares (evil), and Morrel Thule, the Dod of Dreams (Good), but that's never been confirmed. All the Erudites from both cities did was put aside thier ideological differences and came together to change thier race because they must have sensed that something big was going to happen. Something that would help thier race survive together if they became united again.</p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know, just brainstorming. =) </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think they could do Erudin by itself though; I agree it might be kind of silly, but from what I gather, there's a general consensus that the next city added will be good, and I'd be surprised if they added two at once. Still, you never know...</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The whole Quellithule thing reminds me of another question I have; who is "Quad'a'Thule?" Theres a little lore about him in the Graveyard in Freeport, but not much. I think I asked this question about a year ago, if so, sorry to repeat. I just started a new alt and saw the quest again, which brought it back to mind. =)</span></p></span></span></p>

Lodrelhai
05-17-2009, 10:07 AM
<p>On the "Erudin as next good city" thing, I would like to note that Gorowyn as an evil city is a game mechanic more than an actual function.  Gorowyn itself is neutral and welcomes all outsiders equally.  So likewise, Erudin could be a neutral city, but for game mechanics be aligned with Qeynos and Kelethin.</p><p>Or Erudin and Gorowyn could form a new, neutral faction that functions similar to exiles - no one likes them as a group, but individuals can do certain tasks for the other cities to earn acceptance... but that's another topic.</p>

Cusashorn
05-17-2009, 01:23 PM
<p><cite>DeBasilisk wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;"><span><p>To have Erudin as a good city and NOT have Paineel as an evil city is kinda silly, in my opinion.</p><p>Vhalen confirmed that the ritual that changed the Erudites into what they are now changed every living existing erudite across the universe and all dimensions.</p><p>Finally, I know you're just tossing your thoughts out here, which I find humorous in a good way, but Quellithule isn't a diety. Why would a Good god and an Evil God give birth to an Evil God? Good + Evil = Evil? Now there has been the rumor that Quellious (good) and Cazic Thule (evil) ended up creating Terris Thule, the Goddess of Nightmares (evil), and Morrel Thule, the Dod of Dreams (Good), but that's never been confirmed. All the Erudites from both cities did was put aside thier ideological differences and came together to change thier race because they must have sensed that something big was going to happen. Something that would help thier race survive together if they became united again.</p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I know, just brainstorming. =) </span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">I think they could do Erudin by itself though; I agree it might be kind of silly, but from what I gather, there's a general consensus that the next city added will be good, and I'd be surprised if they added two at once. Still, you never know...</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;"></span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff;">The whole Quellithule thing reminds me of another question I have; who is "Quad'a'Thule?" Theres a little lore about him in the Graveyard in Freeport, but not much. I think I asked this question about a year ago, if so, sorry to repeat. I just started a new alt and saw the quest again, which brought it back to mind. =)</span></p></span></span></p></blockquote><p>Quad'a'Thule? The appostrophies suggest to me that it's just the name of an individual mortal who coincidentally shares the name. I've never heard mention of his existance in EQlive.</p>

Zabjade
05-18-2009, 12:48 AM
<p><span style="color: #009900;">Well for Black Panther Skin Armor(I would hope they give them better stats) I probably would not go the Gi look so much because it originates in a very cold zone. I would go more the skin-tight look with fur colar at the boot, glove and neck joints but no stupid panels or mudflaps ;p </span></p><p><span style="color: #009900;">Or a Black and Green Gi would work. </span></p>

Thrads
05-18-2009, 04:00 PM
<p>I would adore Velious.  It was my favorite expansion of all time.  From snow bunnies to Sleeper's Tomb, from the Othmir to the dragons in NToV, from Crystal Cavern's to Velkator's Labrynth, everything was handcrafted to perfection.</p><p>However, for game progression Velious makes little sense as we know it.  Odus was a low level area, Toxx had level 1-10 mobs in EQLive.  Sure, the Hole was high end for a while, but Velious was more dangerous.  Granted, things could have changed since then, but with the Claws of Veeshan and Kerafyrm being some of the most powerful beings in Norrath, introducing it before Odus doesn't work.  However, the Plane of Underfoot does give some potential for raid zones.  Use Erudin and Paineel as starting zones, various areas of Odus for mid level content, and cap out with the Hole leading through The Door of Living Stone into the Plane of Underfoot.</p><p>That or just gimme Velious now and let me die happy.</p>

LygerT
05-18-2009, 06:10 PM
<p>i think lord mayong will pop up out of a cracker jack box and lead both qeynos and freeport in an alliance against the void.</p>

shadowscale
05-18-2009, 06:55 PM
<p><cite>Lyger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>i think lord mayong will pop up out of a cracker jack box and lead both qeynos and freeport in an alliance against the void.</p></blockquote><p>at this point, nothing mistmore can do now would be a surprise. already a giant wild card in the whole story.</p><p>also the immage produced of mayong poping out of a cracker jack box is quite hilarios.</p>

Rashaak
05-18-2009, 07:40 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>The magic from the Quellithulian ritual supposedly did something to the entire continent, and it can't be reached or seen by boat or through the naked eye anymore.</p></blockquote><p>For some reason I start thinking of the movie Krull when this gets brought up. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Meirril
05-19-2009, 04:34 AM
<p><cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Now I'm beginning to wonder if perhaps there's a connection between Queen Cristanos Thex and The Void. It was never explained what power is possessing her presently.</p><p>The above explanations about Quellithulians all seem plasuble to me. I wouldn't be surprised if the next expansion had something to do with Odus.</p></blockquote><p>She was attempting to promote herself to the status of Deity via having her followers worship her. Apparently it hasn't worked. Right now I think she would be possessed by self-preservation. Innoruk probably won't take kindly to her attempt to subvert his most devoted worshipers.</p><p>She may actually look to the goddesss of betrayal for assistance, or at least advice...</p>

Meirril
05-19-2009, 04:36 AM
<p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #009900;">Well for Black Panther Skin Armor(I would hope they give them better stats) I probably would not go the Gi look so much because it originates in a very cold zone. I would go more the skin-tight look with fur colar at the boot, glove and neck joints but no stupid panels or mudflaps ;p </span></p><p><span style="color: #009900;">Or a Black and Green Gi would work. </span></p></blockquote><p>Personally I'd be tickled pink if there was a Gi created in game that actually looked like a Gi instead of bondage wear. You know, that loose fitting tunic that actually covers the entire chest? Maybe even the robes of a shaolin monk?</p><p>Not that I play a monk in game, just say'in.</p>

Cusashorn
05-19-2009, 09:37 AM
<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #009900;">Well for Black Panther Skin Armor(I would hope they give them better stats) I probably would not go the Gi look so much because it originates in a very cold zone. I would go more the skin-tight look with fur colar at the boot, glove and neck joints but no stupid panels or mudflaps ;p </span></p><p><span style="color: #009900;">Or a Black and Green Gi would work. </span></p></blockquote><p>Personally I'd be tickled pink if there was a Gi created in game that actually looked like a Gi instead of bondage wear. You know, that loose fitting tunic that actually covers the entire chest? Maybe even the robes of a shaolin monk?</p><p>Not that I play a monk in game, just say'in.</p></blockquote><p>It only looks like bondage gear on males. I look downright great and sexy wearing it though. And what we have is what Norrathian martial artists define as a Gi. What we have in real life doesn't exist, though I wouldn't object if it did. I want a Kunoichi outfit like Kasumi from Dead or Alive, or a Chinese Dress like Lei Fang from the same series.</p>

Zabjade
05-19-2009, 10:20 PM
<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #009900;">Well for Black Panther Skin Armor(I would hope they give them better stats) I probably would not go the Gi look so much because it originates in a very cold zone. I would go more the skin-tight look with fur colar at the boot, glove and neck joints but no stupid panels or mudflaps ;p </span></p><p><span style="color: #009900;">Or a Black and Green Gi would work. </span></p></blockquote><p>Personally I'd be tickled pink if there was a Gi created in game that actually looked like a Gi instead of bondage wear. You know, that loose fitting tunic that actually covers the entire chest? Maybe even the robes of a shaolin monk?</p><p>Not that I play a monk in game, just say'in.</p></blockquote><p>It only looks like bondage gear on males. I look downright great and sexy wearing it though. And what we have is what Norrathian martial artists define as a Gi. What we have in real life doesn't exist, though I wouldn't object if it did. I want a Kunoichi outfit like Kasumi from Dead or Alive, or a Chinese Dress like Lei Fang from the same series.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00cc00;">The Gi that looks like a Gi would have to be the Robe of the lost Circle and those of that type <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Males look more wrestler-mania then Bondage. I like most females Gi's but want shoes spammit lol </span></p>