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Drahnim
04-30-2009, 12:07 PM
<p>Hey all,I have a question I want to ask regarding the SK and Inquisitor. I am having trouble picking one, and wanted to ask some questions to help me decide. With that said, here goes.The reason i'm looking at SK's and Inquisitors is because #1 they're evil, #2 they wear plate, and #3 getting into a group with either shouldn't be that much of an issue if and when i want to group, plus i like tanking and healing, so trying to decide between either of those is a whole different issue LOL. With my research a battle cleric AA'd Inquisitor can put out some solid dps and take a beating after a bunch of AA's, and a SK can lay the pain pretty easily as well as take a pretty good beating if i'm correct. My question is, would a Battle Spec'd Inquis DPS come close to a SK's DPS and what about survivability, i figured being a plate healer it should be pretty good. I'm not expecting T1/T2 DPS, but for soloing even as a battle cleric with all the proper AA's is it still kind of painful to do?Another question while healing in a group, if I do make an Inquisitor do they usually just stand in the back and heal when necessary or are they up in the front doing dps when not healing? I'm used to playing WoW and know that priests and even holy paladins just stand in the back and cast heals/cures when necessary not really worrying about doing any damage and I didn't want to jump into a group expected to dps AND heal, only to be standing around in the back of the group healing when necessary.Any insight on this matter would be greatly appreciated.Thanks,</p>

TheSpin
04-30-2009, 12:43 PM
<p>I already responded to your question on the SK forum, sorry for being the first on both, but you did ask some different questions so maybe I can help on both posts.</p><p>Inquisitor dps is pretty good for soloing.  Against a single target it would probably come close to SK dps, but different level ranges and other factors can make the bar swing either way.  Overal it's easier to dps on an SK than an inquisitor because SKs have a lot of damage oriented abilities while Inquisitor gets a lot of dps from auto attack and only has a few damage oriented abilities.</p><p>Both of these classes can slaughter the solo content, and both of them are pretty good at soloing heroic content (pre-RoK where soloing heroics is much harder).</p><p>When possible, a battle specced inquisitor should at least auto attack if possible.  It's ok for an inquisitor to stay in melee range in most scenarios (raids and some end game dungeons often require you to stay back for safety).  If you're the only healer in the group, nobody is going to expect you to both DPS and heal.  Many people have the feeling that healers weren't meant to do dps and disagree with the direction of the class, but the dps numbers they can put up gives them a hard case to argue.</p>

Drahnim
04-30-2009, 03:42 PM
<p>Hehe, thanks alot TheSpin, yes I posted this in both locations because in the past I have found that usually single class forums are a tad bit one sided so I figured this way i can weigh the responses i get on both saying which is the better choice before ultimately making my decision.</p><p>Thanks for the response, I'm still undecided I have a 15 Inquisitor right now and my SK is only lvl 3 or 4, I might stick with the Inquisitor and tough it out and see if it gets any better the more AA's i get. I started in the FP island then went and did the ruins then went to TD for AA's and am sweeping through there at the moment, so maybe I'll get more into it the more and more I get away from stuff much lower level.</p><p>I do like the fact that the battle cleric line actually gives you CA's to use instead of spells, so that's really awesome, I am really digging that. Like I said, we'll see, I'd still like to hear other peoples' opinions/experiences and pros/cons.</p><p>Like the guy in my SK post said, why not just play both? Hehe.</p>

G'ville
04-30-2009, 08:14 PM
<p>Once you get the battle cleric AA leveling will seem alot easier.</p><p>I have an 80 Inq and SK, they are pretty much the same class in the way I play.  The major distinctions is that the SK is not the best of the tanking classes, however they have wikked AE attacks, I broke 6k on the dps parse the other night and he is not even mythical. </p><p>The Inq. is also not the best of the healing classes but you should be able to heal most of the same stuff just have to work harder.  Then again I am not really heal speced.  In lieu of heals you do get some cool buffs and decent debuffs.  IE Fanaticism and  armor/resist break, and three of the melee attacks you gain from the battle cleric line are debuffs and cast quickly being CAs and cost very little mana.</p>

Orthureon
05-01-2009, 04:01 PM
<p>In my experience the SK will nearly always do more damage (unless undergeared). They also have much better survivability since the more spells you cast the more you heal yourself. Plenty of damage negaters aswell. Simply the overall concept of do more DPS to heal yourself works VERY well for soloing, not to mention helps with the whole killing the mob thing. Where the Inquisitor will have to stop to heal, negating the progression of the mobs death. Unless you are a Shaman in bane warding gear you can't heal a mob to death.</p><p>The highest parse I have hit on my Inquisitor</p><p>Training Dummy (solo): 6460</p><p>Raid: 7980</p><p>I have seen SKs parsing well above 9-10k on raids, where the raid DPS is maybe 150,000. Most of them (geared similar or better than me) parse 7k and up on the training dummy solo.</p>

CHIMPNOODLE.
05-07-2009, 10:46 AM
<p><cite>Drahnim wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>1) My question is, would a Battle Spec'd Inquis DPS come close to a SK's DPS and what about survivability?</p><p>2) For soloing even as a battle cleric with all the proper AA's is it still kind of painful to do?</p><p>3) Another question while healing in a group, if I do make an Inquisitor do they usually just stand in the back and heal when necessary or are they up in the front doing dps when not healing?</p></blockquote><p>Hi Drahnim <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>My two main toons are SK and Inquis. Solo, group, and raid with both.</p><p>1) Overall, not really. On single target short duration fights, its close...but generally the SK has a decent DPS edge (to a large edge on multi-mobs). SK surviveability is considerably higher imo (more tools).</p><p>2) Its tolerable to solo once enough AAs are distributed. I find soloing much easier on the SK though (kill speed greater, surviving easier, moving around faster..FD/Evac). If I hadn't solo'd on my other toon classes, I'd probably say Inquis soloing was good (I find it much easier than soloing my Inquis than soloing on my Dirge, for example).</p><p>3) I'm pretty much always in close (DPSing <span style="text-decoration: underline;">and</span> Healing) when I'm grouped (even in raid for trash mobs, some named, or even occasionally when AOE blocks are up...or sure win points).</p><p>Both are a blast though.</p>

yibiumien
06-14-2009, 09:11 AM
<p>I also have both an 80 inq and 80 SK, both decently geared.  The SK can solo FAR more content then my Inquisitor.  The parse is usually fairly close if the Inq is fully dpsing.  Since healing takes away some of the dps, in most instances the SK does better dps due to buffs and focusing only on max dps.</p><p>Inq can heal anything single groupable with little issues.  SK can tank just about everything with very little issues.  The pendilum has swung and the SK is in the lime light now, two expansions ago the Inq was the class to be.  Lord only knows what the future has for each of these classes.  My advice to you would be to go SK, then get your INQ up in level and have fun.</p>

Sprin
06-15-2009, 12:35 PM
<p>Here is my take on the SK vs Inquisy...</p><p>If you want to do soely DPS... go SK</p><p>If you want to do soely heal... go Templar <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>I see Inquisy as a hybrid between these two classes... Not doing as much as either.  If you melee spec your Inquisy, then your not healing as much as a Templar would, and your not doing as much DPS as an SK would.</p><p>They have two totally different roles in life TBH.  SK's are tanks, Inquisys are healers.  If you go into a group as a "healer" and people expect you to heal and they are taking massive spike damage and having to use potions and signets to keep themselves alive becasue you are trying to DPS on a healing class... People will quickly label you and not take you along in the future.</p><p>I know there are a few mystics that I used to group with that were "Spec'd pure DPS" and they would try to out DPS everyone in the group and roll on DPS items from instances etc... and guess what... people didnt take him along after too long... he never had a "regular" group of people that would roll with him...</p><p>One of the main problems with Hybrid Healers, especially melee class healers, is most of them tend to try to get at least a few pieces of good melee gear, and boost their DPS.. so your lacking on some healing items and your not doing as good of a job as you could be... while this is fine for solo, for group... do your job, your a healer, if you want to DPS, play a scout / mage TBH... thats the way I think of it.</p><p>I think this is the main reason why certain classes have bad reputations for "not being good healers" mainly because the people playing them really should have rolled a scout / mage and they are trying to "show off" by doing a huge amount of DPS...  </p><p>I say "show off" by being able to solo heal any zone in the game and let the DPS toons do their part.</p><p>Because if your not healing, the group could have replaced you with someone that can actually output large DPS and killed the mobs faster and been stable that way.</p><p>That being said, I am leveling a Battle Inquisy abecause soloing on a templar = /wrists TBH <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>But as soon as I hit 80 I am betraying to a Templar and will be pure heal monster...</p><p>But that being said again.. I also already have a lvl 80 Coercer, lvl 80 mystic, lvl 80 bruiser, and lvl 80 Swashy...</p><p>So I have "one of each" so to speak and think that classes should be played as they were intended by "the main stream"... IE: Group LF healer = they want heals, not DPS... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

Avirodar
06-16-2009, 10:04 AM
<p>As the shadowknight is one of the most overpowered class types in the game, at the current time, i'd safely suggest going with that option if you want results.If you want to have high pick-up group desirability, go with a templar.</p>