Plea for Craftable household Food, table items etc

[Kitsune]

<p>Currently the only food we have for our houses is from Frostfell, or the cookies from Erollisi Day (and chox).The only plates etc as far as I know are from the Hungry Hobbit quest - and the glasses don't even show up! They are so transparent they are a waste of time to get. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Good idea, but maybe in red or blue glass so you can actually see them would be nice.</p><p>Could we possibly have more food items for our tables and pantries, the stove top, on the counters?</p><p>Pans for the stove top would be nice. They exist already when we cook for crafting.</p><p>Plates we can make, pepper and salt pots, knives and forks, stirring impliments. I have visions of the old fashioned kitchens with hanging racks of copper pans and cooking utensils, long tables with bunches of herbs and other stuff.</p><p>Raw veggies we can place like a cabbage, or any vegetables and fruits, and cutting knives! Bunches of herbs that can lie on a counter or hang from rafters.</p><p>Containers that say Flour, Sugar, Honey - anything like that - would also be awesome.</p><p>You see it all adds personality to our homes for us. Half the pots and stuff already exist, as I said, in places like the homes in Mara. Surely those could be imported into the game for us to make?</p>

[Tinrae]

<p>Love these ideas. Especially as I designed my provi's home as a small cafe, I'd love to see some more non-seasonal food items added to the game to add more realism. A variety of plates and tableware would be wonderful too!</p>

[GlitterPaws]

<p>Not sure I totally agree with the request. I see more little items as cluttering up my house, taking up house inventory space, taking up bag/chest inventory space and above all, taking up recipe book space. Too many books would be needed to hold the recipes, the books would have to be added to all the loot tables, non-crafters would get a little ticked to have nothing but recipe books drop just to craft a chafing dish for someone's table.</p><p>It's a nice idea, don't get me wrong, I just think planning would take a lot of time and artwork. You know that folks would complain about the silverware patterns, the china patterns, the ethnic design of the foods, etc.</p><p>People are already complaining more than enough when they get bored ))</p>

[Snowdonia]

<p>That's personal preference though Glitter. Just because <em>you</em> don't want them in your house, doesn't mean decorators don't want them in their's.</p><p>Just a note, there are some food items that Carpenters can make from regular recipes (Bread and muffin tins with food). There is also stuff from Nights of the Dead.</p><p>So long as any house items are either event <em>or</em> Carpenter made only, I'm all for any of the above suggestions.</p>

[Kitsune]

<p>Oh I was asking on behalf of my Carpenter toon. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>My point was that some of the items already exist in game, set in armoirs or other places like in the Isle of Mara.</p><p>As for lots of little items, well what about a grouping like a mat with salt n pepper on it? Or a couple of storage jars together, labelled in whatever language.</p><p>Place settings - we already have a wooden one for Hungry Hobbit - but I don't like it, so why not one with a pottery plate, maybe with a meal already on it - just generic stew - and knife n fork either side of plate on a mat?</p><p>As for utensils, small groupings of these again are good too. I do not think any Ratonga would complain about a big plate of cheese with a kniofe beside it and small chunks ready cut! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Or a loaf of bread sliced on a plate.</p><p>They could even be in speacific recipe books that those that do not want them don't need to earn/buy so the OP is taken into account. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">If they quantify them like books then we might not have the item count issue.</span></p>

[Mystfit]

<p>If they quantify everything like books, we wouldnt have an item count problem <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />I always wodnered why, if item count mattered on some level, books were exempt.</p>

[Kitsune]

<p>Prolly because books represent quests done whereas other items can be from crafting or just buying from broker, or yes, a quest too.</p><p>To penalize us for the number of books might make some folk not do book quests... maybe?</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Mystfit wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I always wodnered why, if item count mattered on some level, books were exempt.</blockquote><p>Item count is to prevent excessive lag and loading times for player housing, and little else.</p><p>Books are among the least resourse intensive house items in the game, and also among the most plentiful. It makes sense to not include them.</p><p>Although I do not know a lot about graphics and such, I would assume a book could be made using a few as 18 polygons. I would like to think they could make cube shaped vases and other items using less than 100 polygons, but round shapes take up a much larger amount, meaning they would need to be included on item counts.</p>

[GrunEQ]

<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">You can get individual knives, forks and spoons thru the Hungry Halfling quests and resizing them can make them look more like serving or cooking utenciles.  I have seen some really nice "cannisters" that were various sizes of vases and urns that worked very nicely.  Also resizing some of the plants make them look more herbal.  Not knocking your request...I always like new stuff and more choices for house items...just letting you know what's already in game so far.</span></p>

[KerowynnKaotic]

<p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>*snipped*</p><p>So long as any house items are either event <em>or</em> Carpenter made only, I'm all for any of the above suggestions.</p></blockquote><p>Yah .. while I do want more Household Food items .. I do NOT want them to be made by the Carpenter.   Shocking, I know! </p><p>I want them to be made by the PROVISIONER!  You know the Craft that has way less recipes over-all, has to do it 2 at a time and actually understands not to use Sawdust in place of Flour ..</p><p>It doesn't even have to be that many recipes added.   I'd say a grand total of maybe (10) would be nice.   (20) would be uber sweet.   A plate with a grilled fish, a plate with a slice of cake & a fork, a bowl of steaming soup with a spoon, a bowl of cooked (steaming) green veggies, same done with Yellow.  A bowl of white goo representing mashed potatoes or pudding, A actual Birthday Cake and a Wedding Cake (<em>if SC doesn't do them first .. they could still do "Balloons"</em>) .. etc .. etc ...</p><p>They could be added to the 'advance' provo books that were recieved in those Grandmaster quests.  Added to those quests that were missed and put up for sale on the Grandmaster for those who had already did those quests.  I believe (<em>off the top of my head without checking eq2traders</em>) that T6 & T7 were missing the 'adv provo' books.</p><p>I don't want to take away from the Carpenter but there are still TONS of 'real' furniture items that I want to be Carp made without losing much for the Food items.   ie:  I want the various Lampposts in each of the cities and I *covet* those blue pillars and those warm brown shelves in Neriak.  Those I'd beg, borrow or steal to get added to Carps recipes!  Actually, I already have been /begging for them. Not to mention I have been /begging for a complete line of Glassware using reg/rare loam for ages for the Carps.</p><p>So, my vote is:  YES to Food house items.. and YES to Provisioners making it !!!   <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Rijacki]

<p><cite>Kaisha@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>*snipped*</p><p>So long as any house items are either event <em>or</em> Carpenter made only, I'm all for any of the above suggestions.</p></blockquote><p>Yah .. while I do want more Household Food items .. I do NOT want them to be made by the Carpenter.   Shocking, I know! </p><p>I want them to be made by the PROVISIONER!  You know the Craft that has way less recipes over-all, has to do it 2 at a time and actually understands not to use Sawdust in place of Flour ..</p></blockquote><p>Without counting recipes and making claims of this class more that class less... A positive reason for provisioners to make placeable food/drink items is simply that it would give them a durable item, one that has their name as the maker which sticks around and isn't erased by stacking.</p><p>Adding my own desire to the rest:</p><ul><li>Half full carafs and glasses with the same liquid (pale yellow and red would be nice), either as singles or on a tray.</li></ul><p>Additionally, it would be nice to have durable items for the scholars, too. Sages are going to get books, it would be nice to have placable jewelry bits for jewelers and beakers, vials, bottles, and other chemical related stuff for alchemists.</p><p>I like the idea of quested recipes, either as part of the reward from the journeyman/master series or even totally new quests.</p>

[Kitsune]

<p>Yes, Provisioners have a good point for them making the plates of foodstuffs, I have to agree on that.</p>

[Whilhelmina]

I agree too, some of them could be provisionner recipes. And they do miss a lot of recipes, having no mastercrafted books and so on.

[GrunEQ]

<p><span style="font-size: small; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Ooooo lasting food/drink items with our names on them as provisioners....yeah, that works.</span></p>

[ElsaRat]

<p>Ohh I agree completely. More items to give our houses a lived in look. Food that's appropriate for day today, not just for holidays. Maybe even a pile of dirty clothes for the slobs among us. And a comb! My ratonga wants an ivory comb to run through her tail every day.</p>

[obikenkenobi]

<p>Don't worry, I'm sure more items like this will be available for station cash soon enough. <insert sarcasm here></p>