Please assist, need help understanding some CA's

[laststopok]

<p>So I am level 15 with 15 AA's. I read everywhere that I should invest into my Combat arts first. So I plan on doing just that but I am confused with some of the CA, especially "Glacial Strike". How do I reach this skill by only putting into Combat when the tooltip says I need rank 3 of Oberon from augmenting tree? Also Enchance: Ursine Elder says chance to deal additional slashing damage? When I open my profile I only see piercing and crushing so does this benefit me at all? Sorry I am new to this game and this is my first character but I am just trying to make sense of it all.</p><p>I just want 21 points spent into CA for the weapon mastery then start looking into agi. But if i need to branch out into other trees in order to get all CAs, then can someone help me with the correct point placement so i do not mess up. Thanks</p>

[laststopok]

<p>Doh nevermind i just realized even though the tooltip said that i can still get Glacial strike.. I am such a noob. Still is enchance Ursine worth it? thanks</p>

[KatrinaDeath]

<p>Upgrading Ursine is very worth it. What it means is that on an attack you have an X% chance to do X additional damage. It says its slashing damage but it doesn't matter what type of weapon you have.</p>

[SonnyA]

<p>Ursine claws is NOT worth it. Waste of AAs.</p><p>My DPS against a target dummy is around 2700. Of those, only 25-40 are from Ursine claws.</p>

[m5]

<p><cite>SonnyA wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ursine claws is NOT worth it. Waste of AAs.</p><p>My DPS against a target dummy is around 2700. Of those, only 25-40 are from Ursine claws.</p></blockquote><p>What are you going to get in its place? After getting blessings and CAs, there really isn't anything good to get in the mystic tree. More DPS no matter how small is more DPS... There isn't anything else to increase it in that tree</p>

[Tomei]

<p><cite>m5 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>SonnyA wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ursine claws is NOT worth it. Waste of AAs.</p><p>My DPS against a target dummy is around 2700. Of those, only 25-40 are from Ursine claws.</p></blockquote><p>What are you going to get in its place? After getting blessings and CAs, there really isn't anything good to get in the mystic tree. More DPS no matter how small is more DPS... There isn't anything else to increase it in that tree</p></blockquote><p>I wouldnt waste my AA's on DPS...unless you plan on mainly soloing..also i believe that AGI is pretty worthless on the AA line..i would focus on WIS for your heals and INT for some of your damage spells...that will help you solo...also dont plan on taking down any mobs with ease until you reach lvl 80 and get the T1+ shard gear(good damage reactive)..thats just my .02..and is totally opinion..</p>

[Banditman]

<p><cite>Tomei wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wouldnt waste my AA's on DPS...unless you plan on mainly soloing..also i believe that AGI is pretty worthless on the AA line..i would focus on WIS for your heals and INT for some of your damage spells...that will help you solo...also dont plan on taking down any mobs with ease until you reach lvl 80 and get the T1+ shard gear(good damage reactive)..thats just my .02..and is totally opinion..</p></blockquote><p>You seem to have a number of  silly beliefs here that don't really belong in this situation.</p><p>The person who began this thread stated quite clearly that they were level 15.  Given what is ahead of them in reaching the level cap where the majority of the player base is, DPS is of the utmost importance.  They have a great deal of solo'ing ahead before they'll be able to reliably get groups as a healer.</p><p>AGI is worthless?  So it's you . . . that one person who doesn't have AGI.  I suppose 16% Heal Crit is worthless to a healer.  Heck, why take any Heal Crit at all?</p><p>Don't plan on taking down any mobs with ease?  What?  Do you even play the class?  Seriously?  A properly melee spec'ed Mystic is a soloing MONSTER.  A MONSTER.  Of all the Priest classes, only an Inquisitor can really give a Mystic a run for their money as a solo'er.</p><p>I'll go out on a limb here:  The reason "you" are having trouble solo'ing is because you clearly don't understand the full implications of a melee spec.  Perhaps do a little research and better understand the class before you try to give advice to someone beginning their journey.</p>

[Tomei]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Tomei wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I wouldnt waste my AA's on DPS...unless you plan on mainly soloing..also i believe that AGI is pretty worthless on the AA line..i would focus on WIS for your heals and INT for some of your damage spells...that will help you solo...also dont plan on taking down any mobs with ease until you reach lvl 80 and get the T1+ shard gear(good damage reactive)..thats just my .02..and is totally opinion..</p></blockquote><p>You seem to have a number of  silly beliefs here that don't really belong in this situation.</p><p>The person who began this thread stated quite clearly that they were level 15.  Given what is ahead of them in reaching the level cap where the majority of the player base is, DPS is of the utmost importance.  They have a great deal of solo'ing ahead before they'll be able to reliably get groups as a healer.</p><p>AGI is worthless?  So it's you . . . that one person who doesn't have AGI.  I suppose 16% Heal Crit is worthless to a healer.  Heck, why take any Heal Crit at all?</p><p>Don't plan on taking down any mobs with ease?  What?  Do you even play the class?  Seriously?  A properly melee spec'ed Mystic is a soloing MONSTER.  A MONSTER.  Of all the Priest classes, only an Inquisitor can really give a Mystic a run for their money as a solo'er.</p><p>I'll go out on a limb here:  The reason "you" are having trouble solo'ing is because you clearly don't understand the full implications of a melee spec.  Perhaps do a little research and better understand the class before you try to give advice to someone beginning their journey.</p></blockquote><p>well i also know that a mystic is one of the most group friendly classes...therefore my intention was to choose AA's that would benefit the group more...in a group even a melee spec mystic wont even come close on the parse to other DPS classes..but that is not your job as a mystic..your job is to HEAL and WARD. i have been getting reasonable groups on my server (mistmoore) since the high 20's-low 30's..a mystic is a great duo with any cloth DPS or ANY tank class...and as far as soloing i am mainly talking about heroic ^^^ if you cant take blue ^^^ solo..it is a "weaker" solo class..my conj alt has no problem taking down white heroic ^^^ (depending on adds) let alone blue or green..where as the mystic(before shard gear) would have a hard time...if you want a melee class start a melee class..if you want a badass healer/warder i would stick to WIS i did go down the AGI line after a respec in the 70's mainly to get the heal crit..also went fully down the WIS line and partially down the INT line for some extra spell damage....</p><p>Right now i am spec'ed so i can solo heal most TSO shard zones where as if i were melee spec'ed i would have a hard time..but it is not my role to cause melee DPS...again just my opinion..everyone has a different belief on how a toon should be managed..and i have no trouble soloing it just takes a bit longer to take down white/blue mobs....</p>

[Tomei]

<p>o and i also did the ursine AA i thought it did help slightly...</p>

[KatrinaDeath]

<p>I have an 80 Mystic on Nagafen that was a Defiler from 1 to 59. I went Mystic at 60 and didn't have to wait to go full Melee right away. But since Sony make some PvP changes that I was not too fond of I have since switched to PvE...</p><p>Now as I am playing a lowbie Mystic for the first time(Now 32 with 43AA) the first thing I went for was the melee lines. Most that know me from Nagafen know I'm a tad crazy (Look up highest melee hit for us Mystics and you'll see why).</p><p><strong><span style="font-size: small;">The most importaint thing a low level Mystic can be doing is getting their melee crit and CA's.</span></strong> It will help you solo, it helps in groups. WIS line before T7 is a joke. If you are gonna melee there is very little point for the INT line as that is mostly a spell casting line.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>It's really very simple.</p><p>You can heal just fine going melee spec.  I do it every day.  There is nothing in the melee spec that prevents healing, nothing at all.  On one hand you say that your job isn't to DPS, yet on the other hand you say you are spending AA's in the INT line - a casting DPS line.  I'm sure Defilers consider it a viable line, but Mystics simply don't.</p><p>I've solo healed every TSO heroic zone, aside from Palace of Fehrzul and I strongly suspect I could solo heal that as well if I didn't mind dying a few times.</p><p>Let me wrap it up for you:  If you are going to spend AA's to do damage, you get the most bang for your buck by using melee spec.  If you aren't spending AA's to do damage . . . what are you spending them on?  There are not very many "healing" AA's out there for a Mystic quite honestly.</p>

[TheSpin]

<p>Melee specced priests at low levels can do every bit as much dps as the real dpsers.</p><p>I have a level locked inquisitor with way more AA than he should have for his level, but he can solo yellow named mobs in stormhold and still have half his power remaining when the fight's over.</p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

<p>ursine upgrade is absolutely worth it if you are trying to get your dps up, especially if you are mostly a solo or group person.  its like an extra proc for your weapon that goes off all the time.</p>

[SonnyA]

<p><cite>m5 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>SonnyA wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ursine claws is NOT worth it. Waste of AAs.</p><p>My DPS against a target dummy is around 2700. Of those, only 25-40 are from Ursine claws.</p></blockquote><p>What are you going to get in its place? After getting blessings and CAs, there really isn't anything good to get in the mystic tree. More DPS no matter how small is more DPS... There isn't anything else to increase it in that tree</p></blockquote><p>Well, you could fill out the gaps in the augmentation or rez line. Enhance Oberon if you don't have that. It's great with greater bane warding. Or maybe the enchance avatar.</p><p>You could also keep it if you have maxed AAs. I'm at 200 and the last 10 AAs were kind of meh.. But I'm still considering speccing away from claws. It's too little bang for the buck.</p>

[KatrinaDeath]

<p>Yeah, because the rez line is so worth the points. If you are spending points in the rez line so you can rez better(Thats the point right?) then you are not doing your primary job as a priest to KEEP PEOPLE ALIVE! When EoF came out I laughed so hard at the rez line; final ability being an AOE rez. And then TSO comes out and look... Another Rez!</p><p>Now I sound contridicting but the DPS lines are the way to go for the Mystic. Aside from the STR line and a few abilities in the Shadows tree there is no "heal spec."</p><p>Do yourself a favor in leveling more efficientally and get those CA's</p>

[Greggthegrmreapr]

<p>if you are doing your job as a mystic...  you don't need the rez line, and there are druids for rezzing people anyway.  they are worthless other than that.</p>

[SonnyA]

<p><cite>Denna@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>if you are doing your job as a mystic...  you don't need the rez line, and there are druids for rezzing people anyway.  they are worthless other than that.</p></blockquote><p>When an AE has killed 6-8 people in your raid, then you'll appreciate Spirit Dance.</p><p>People needing a rez has nothing to do with me not doing my job. When you must rez mid-fight, you'll love the added casting speed.</p><p>For your everyday instance group grind, rez line isn't needed. But neither are the last 100 AAs you got, and certainly not the 40 dps you get from Ursine claws.</p><p>It's a waste.. really, it is.</p>