Wife of Antonius IV?

[ElnAckom]

<p>I'm curious if I've missed it in scouring forums, net resources, and in-game resources: Do we know the name of the wife and second lover of Antonius Bayle IV? This would be the mother of the "terrible twins," Anton and Antea, not Lady Shae of Felwithe.</p><p>As a genealogist of real-world family lines, I'm often surprised at how little attention is paid to the women in patriarchal royal lines. We know the wife of Bayle Shiverfist was Danaria. We know that the wife of Antonius Bayle III was Linnett. We even know the wife of Kane Bayle, Araminda.</p><p>But we don't seem to have the name of the woman who gave rise to the branch of the Bayle family that ruled Qeynos for four generations.</p><p><em>See: <a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Qeynos_Rulers" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Qeynos_Rulers</a></em></p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Terrible twins... What?</p><p>Not much attention is paid to the past rulers of Qeynos, though it's cool that you've taken an interested to this approach in the lore. Maybe we'll find out something sometime down the line.. no pun intended.</p>

[Zabjade]

<p><span style="color: #00cc00;">I also fully support this line of querry.</span></p>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p>As do I. </p><p>We know that Lady Shea was Shaonia's mother.  But we do not know the mother of Anton and Antea; [nor will we ever know probably].  We also do not know the wives of Antonious Bayle I, II,  V, VI, or VII either.  Or of Vallius or Kyle.</p><p>Enquiring minds want to know.</p>

[Coniaric]

<p>Slight correction: I don't believe Bayle and Danaria were married. They got together for a time. Then Bayle disappeared during his and his companions' journey against the Void.</p><p>Danaria clearly found to be pregnant after Bayle's absence and the generations of the Bayle family continued from that point on.</p>

[ElnAckom]

<p><cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Slight correction: I don't believe Bayle and Danaria were married. They got together for a time. Then Bayle disappeared during his and his companions' journey against the Void.</p><p>Danaria clearly found to be pregnant after Bayle's absence and the generations of the Bayle family continued from that point on.</p></blockquote><p>Absolutely true; we don't know if they were formally betrothed within either a Halasian or new human institution or tradition insofar as I am aware. You could more accurately replace the word "wife" with "mate" in the original post. Absolutely no intention (or interest) in opening a can of worms on that front!</p><p>We do know that the mother of Anton and Antea was married to Antonius IV, albeit without much enthusiasm on the part of the heartbroken father.</p>

[RaphaNissi]

<p>I wanted to add in here that Kane was not an illegitimate child.  I'm not sure where they got that info from, but it is wrong.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Slight correction: I don't believe Bayle and Danaria were married. They got together for a time. Then Bayle disappeared during his and his companions' journey against the Void.</p><p>Danaria clearly found to be pregnant after Bayle's absence and the generations of the Bayle family continued from that point on.</p></blockquote><p>While I fully support the idea of Danaria's child being given the Bayle name and starting the Bayle line...its not guarenteed. We need more of the Claymore's story to be revealed to get an answer.</p><p>Its fully possible that Bayle sent the claymore back to Greenocean/Qeynos and that it became associated with him. The person that won the Claymore might of taken on the title "Bayle" when they won possession of the blade. When a single family held possession of the Claymore for a few generations, Bayle may have stopped being simply a title for the sword holder but became that family's name.</p><p>No, I don't think that is what happened but it is just an example of a plausible story that could explain the Bayle name just as much as Danaria's child carrying on the name.</p>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p>We know with certainty the line of Bayle from Antonius Bayle I through Antonius Bayle the VII.  There are only two Bayles mentioned that preceed Antonius Bayle I;  Bayle Shiverfist the ethernaut, and Vallius Bayle the individual that brought the Claymore to Oceangreen.</p><p>The most *probable* relationship is that Vallius was the son of Bayle Shiverfist and Danaria, and was the father of Antonius Bayle I.  Of course anything is possible, and I doubt that we will ever get an answer now.</p>

[ElnAckom]

<p>I revisited my original source data and found the discrepancy. (Which was reproduced quite a bit on net forums.) I've corrected the EQ2i article information and graphics as a consequence, and appreciate the correction.</p><p>I wonder if there are any EQ2 Devs who know any EQ1 Devs who are Lore integral that might have some threads of backstory kickin' around on the Bayles that haven't otherwise been released.</p><p>The skepticism regarding Danaria is certainly understandable. I myself as a genealogist wouldn't include Danaria on my family tree if I were a real-life Bayle. However, given the rarity of specific named citations and the context of the information as part of a fairly obscure backstory as it is... it seems safe enough to include it as a "probable."</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>Sesketh@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I revisited my original source data and found the discrepancy. (Which was reproduced quite a bit on net forums.) I've corrected the EQ2i article information and graphics as a consequence, and appreciate the correction.</p><p>I wonder if there are any EQ2 Devs who know any EQ1 Devs who are Lore integral that might have some threads of backstory kickin' around on the Bayles that haven't otherwise been released.</p><p>The skepticism regarding Danaria is certainly understandable. I myself as a genealogist wouldn't include Danaria on my family tree if I were a real-life Bayle. However, given the rarity of specific named citations and the context of the information as part of a fairly obscure backstory as it is... it seems safe enough to include it as a "probable."</p></blockquote><p>Unfortunately if such a backstory does exist the two devs most likely to have originated that lore have left Sony recently.</p><p>As for skepticism, I'm always one to avoid jumping to conclusions. But, Danaria is the most likely canidate for a link between Bayle the ethernaut and Vallius Bayle. Though, several generations could be between them. While the dates are really fuzzy during the age of blood and the lost age its hard to believe that it all happened in a single barbarian/human life time.</p><p>Also we still have no explination how the Qeynos Claymore and Soulfire were first brought to Norrath (presumably from the void). Its likely that it involves the Ethernaughts but not absolutely guarenteed. I really don't want to see War vs the Void continue in the next expansion, but the Lore is horribly incomplete. This can only lead me to conclude that we're going to Odus for the next chapter in the void story.</p><p>Dammit. I really wanted Velious to be next too. Well, hopefully Velious will have NOTHING to do with the void. I'm really getting sick of this story dragging itself out.</p>