Mentored Ravenscale

[Superfrog]

<p>This is complete and total *********. A group of 76s in ravenscale, the mobs are level 80! You want to put 6 level 76s againt the group of 5 named? No amount of fabled gear will get you through this. Fix scaleable instances. And SoE wonders why their subscriber base is dwindling.</p>

[Warr]

<p>Mentor a level 70, zone in, unmentor.</p>

[habby2]

<p>Zones scaling fine, group of level 80's has to fight a group of 5 level 84's</p>

[eqaddictedfool]

<p>uhm ravenscale doesnt scale does it</p>

[therodge]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is complete and total *********. A group of 76s in ravenscale, the mobs are level 80! You want to put 6 level 76s againt the group of 5 named? No amount of fabled gear will get you through this. Fix scaleable instances. And SoE wonders why their subscriber base is dwindling.</p></blockquote><p>Acually the scaled perfectly last mob shouldd be 81 at 76. and yes at 80 that group of 5 named is 84 and will freaken own you learn to deal or ask for the zone to be nerfed, either way scaleing works fine</p>

[Lleren]

<p>Ravenscale scales, to 70, which gives you 74ish mobs</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>At level 80, you have mythicals, fabled shard gear, the works. 76 you dont. Go in with a group of 76s and tell me that scaling works fine. [Removed for Content] elitists.</p>

[Kizee]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>At level 80, you have mythicals, fabled shard gear, the works. 76 you dont. Go in with a group of 76s and tell me that scaling works fine. [Removed for Content] elitists.</p></blockquote><p>LOL.</p><p>Move along. Just another instant grad person probally still in mastercrafted and adept 1 spells wanting to skip gearing up in easy zones and jump right to the harder zones.</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>No, actually I'm level 80 with mostly adept 3s and master 1s, half fabled gear, everything i have worked for. I took a group of 76s into RR, i mentored before zoning in. Mobes were roughly 78-79. Nameds were 80s and 81. No way a group of 76 could do it. Learn your facts</p>

[Kizee]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, actually I'm level 80 with mostly adept 3s and master 1s, half fabled gear, everything i have worked for. I took a group of 76s into RR, i mentored before zoning in. Mobes were roughly 78-79. Nameds were 80s and 81. No way a group of 76 could do it. Learn your facts</p></blockquote><p>It scales the to the same level differances at 80 too. It is doable. L2P?</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>Level difference doesnt matter at those levels, the ratio of gear to level sky rockets when you hit 80, shard gear becomes availible, fabled/mythicals. I've noticed all your posts are the "L2P" "It's too easy make it harder" type of posts. Until you try out what someone is saying, why bother even replying? Go play WoW, you'd fit in better there.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Level difference doesnt matter at those levels, the ratio of gear to level sky rockets when you hit 80, shard gear becomes availible, fabled/mythicals. I've noticed all your posts are the "L2P" "It's too easy make it harder" type of posts. Until you try out what someone is saying, why bother even replying? Go play WoW, you'd fit in better there.</p></blockquote><p>Ravenscale is designed as a reasonably challanging zone, reguardless of level. If you have basic equipment for the level you are at, you should expect to not get far at all in this zone. Reguardless of level, the same basic progression holds true. With that in mind, this is my advice...</p><p>Try running level 76 versions of Evernight Abby, Mystmyr Manor, Deep Forge, Najena's Hollow Tower, Cavern of the Afflicted, Halls of the Forsaken and Necrotic Asylum. Do these zones enough to get the gear from them that is useful, and then attempt to tackle Ravenscale again. You will find that you have better luck if you go about things in this manner.</p><p>If you have the best gear avalible to a non raiding level 76 toon, and are still unable to run this zone, then (and only then) you have a valid complaint.</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>At least you were nice about it. Our group was very nicely geared out, better equipment than shard run legendarys for that level, and some peices better than legendarys from level 80. But what I'm saying is that the fight with the 5 (or 4 and a pet) heroic level 80 ^^^, it's [Removed for Content] hard for a group of 76s. None can be mezzed, and 2 i believe can taunt if you get unlucky.</p>

[Noaani]

<p>Correct, the zone is hard.</p>

[LygerT]

<p>ravenscale is the hardest tier loping plains zone.</p><p>quit whining and have your mom change your diaper, or perhaps gear your group out to match the difficulty of the zone instead of saying something is broken when in your original post the example you gave sais the zone is scaling just fine.</p><p>don't blame your inadequacies on the game.</p>

[Pins]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, actually I'm level 80 with mostly adept 3s and master 1s, half fabled gear, everything i have worked for. I took a group of 76s into RR, i mentored before zoning in. Mobes were roughly 78-79. Nameds were 80s and 81. No way a group of 76 could do it. Learn your facts</p></blockquote><p>Good thing Level 70s never had to take on Level 76 mobs before, Epicx2s even!</p>

[Ashlian]

<p>My guild considers it pointless to do any of the mentored TSO instances. Deepforge scaled to 50 is nowhere near the ease for mastercrafted geared characters at level than Deepforge at 80 is, let alone any of the more difficult instances. We find it far easier to set a zone to 80 and take a couple of the level 75+ people in with a level 80 group than to do the mentored instances. That way, they actually get shards and gear that will honestly be an upgrade. Mentored instances in TSO take far too much time with comparably geared people than simply doing the same instance at 80.</p><p>We consider them really a failure as far as the scaling is concerned, especially as nearly no person leveling up a toon from 50-75 is going to be getting raid gear for those tiers, and few of them get masters or even adept 3's for anything but key skills before 71 unless they aren't taking advantage of the immense leveling bonus and level lock. The zones should have scaled to the difficulty they expected for that tier with say mastercrafted, not for a group of entirely level 80's mentored down to one person at lower level.</p>

[Superfrog]

<p><cite>Lyger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ravenscale is the hardest tier loping plains zone.</p><p>quit whining and have your mom change your diaper, or perhaps gear your group out to match the difficulty of the zone instead of saying something is broken when in your original post the example you gave sais the zone is scaling just fine.</p><p>don't blame your inadequacies on the game.</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content] someone is a little sad and immature. You really are one of those elitists who demand everything to be tailored to you and no one else. I'd like to know the point of scaleable instances if the instance is going to be completely out of line for the group. Or you could read the dozens of other posts of people saying that mobs in scaled instances have way more hitpoints than they should.</p><p>Quit whining because someone doesn't agree with you. Also learn some grammar.</p><p>Edit: And Pinski, yeah, good thing level 70s never did have to take on level 76 mobs. Oh wait, they did...in raid gear...with full masters because 70 was the cap. You're actually agreeing with me, because a level 80 group now has way better gear by comparision to a group of 76s who didn't stop at 70-75 to get raid gear from antiquidated raid zones just to do a scaled group instance.</p>

[LygerT]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lyger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ravenscale is the hardest tier loping plains zone.</p><p>quit whining and have your mom change your diaper, or perhaps gear your group out to match the difficulty of the zone instead of saying something is broken when in your original post the example you gave sais the zone is scaling just fine.</p><p>don't blame your inadequacies on the game.</p></blockquote><p>[Removed for Content] someone is a little sad and immature. You really are one of those elitists who demand everything to be tailored to you and no one else. I'd like to know the point of scaleable instances if the instance is going to be completely out of line for the group. Or you could read the dozens of other posts of people saying that mobs in scaled instances have way more hitpoints than they should.</p><p>Quit whining because someone doesn't agree with you. Also learn some grammar.</p><p>Edit: And Pinski, yeah, good thing level 70s never did have to take on level 76 mobs. Oh wait, they did...in raid gear...with full masters because 70 was the cap. You're actually agreeing with me, because a level 80 group now has way better gear by comparision to a group of 76s who didn't stop at 70-75 to get raid gear from antiquidated raid zones just to do a scaled group instance.</p></blockquote><p>you'll have to point out more than just mob level differences because that has already been covered in this thread. so what is your real complaint? mobs have too much HP or hitting you too hard? as i said before, you will have to have a full group geared fairly well, not just yourself to complete this zone without a decent amount of casualties. even at 80 in full RAID gear this zone isn't cake for most groups.</p><p>btw, i'm not the one whining here. i do love how people try to turn it around like that though.</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>No but you're acting like a complete and total jerk. Like I said, if this doesn't affect you, don't reply. And it doesn't affect you.</p>

[coffee2025]

<p>Root the fighter burn the rest, and keep the group stacked with heals/reactives/wards.</p><p>If the fighter is immune to root it means that group has a templar with sanctuary best bet if you having trouble with tank smashing ppl then reset the encounter until you don't get a templar then root the tank, etc, etc.</p><p>If it still doesn't work then it just means your group isn't good enough.</p>

[Superfrog]

<p>Ah ok thank you. We tried rooting the first time and it didnt work (probably cause the santuary.) We didn't try it after that, but we'll try that next time. Thanks</p>

[Kizee]

<p>GL on the powermonger fight. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Kunaak]

<p>ravenscales "5 name mob" is indeed a challenge, but thank god it is. with all the real challenges in this game lately getting nerfed down to [Removed for Content] mode, I am glad theres still a few places out there that actually require effort.</p><p>if me and my groups had to do ravenscale beating 85's, which are 5 levels above us, when I was in T2 + epic weapon gear, and did so successfully, theres no reason you cant beat some mob 4 levels above you.</p><p>but then again, I am the kinda guy that wishs they would put L88 heroics in the game too....</p>

[eqaddictedfool]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ah ok thank you. We tried rooting the first time and it didnt work (probably cause the santuary.) We didn't try it after that, but we'll try that next time. Thanks</p></blockquote><p>just out of curiosity what was your group layout like?</p>

[Moralpanic]

<p><cite>Superfrog wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>This is complete and total *********. A group of 76s in ravenscale, the mobs are level 80! You want to put 6 level 76s againt the group of 5 named? No amount of fabled gear will get you through this. Fix scaleable instances. And SoE wonders why their subscriber base is dwindling.</p></blockquote><p>It's obvious this zone isn't for your gimped chars.</p>