HEY SOE WHY NO WRIT GIVER IN LS??? [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Chaosretu

04-01-2009, 09:39 PM

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>you honestly expect us to travel that long of a distance? I think you should put a griffin in 45 locations of lavastorm. I want my travel to be instanteneous! DO IT!

Warr

04-01-2009, 10:10 PM

The point of this post is because its taking sometimes ten minutes to zone from Nek to LS due to all of the people constantly zoning back and forth turning in writs.A writ giver in LS would prevent this.Just fyi.

ChaoticVisions

04-01-2009, 10:23 PM

<cite>Warren@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote>The point of this post is because its taking sometimes ten minutes to zone from Nek to LS due to all of the people constantly zoning back and forth turning in writs.A writ giver in LS would prevent this.Just fyi.</blockquote>Just fyi, this style of PvP is ridiculous and if they put a PvP writ giver in LS, they may as well put the PvP vendors in there as well. If getting PvP gear was meant to be as easy and mindless as this... well, idk. It's pretty bad.

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-01-2009, 10:24 PM

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>your log in servers cant handle all the requests that develop when 5 lavastorms are up. writ givers need to be in lavastorm to offset this issue. this is not an issue, it simply needs to happen.

04-01-2009, 10:26 PM

<cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>your log in servers cant handle all the requests that develop when 5 lavastorms are up. writ givers need to be in lavastorm to offset this issue. this is not an issue, it simply needs to happen.</blockquote>why dont they change the fame system back, so this whole thing can be avoided?

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-01-2009, 10:38 PM

dunno ocik, would probably be a good thing to revert, but i doubt it will happen. having close battles with fame at stake was what made one's heart rate anxious! lol. im ok either way though, i spose O_o.but it's true, SOE, your log-in servers cant handle that shnizzle. lavastorm crashes multiple times during peak hours.

Warr

04-01-2009, 10:41 PM

<cite>Trilli@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Just fyi, this style of PvP is ridiculous and if they put a PvP writ giver in LS, they may as well put the PvP vendors in there as well. If getting PvP gear was meant to be as easy and mindless as this... well, idk. It's pretty bad.</blockquote>Yeah, because if the zoning issues were resolved, zoning over to nek would make that much of a difference. Or even call to guild hall, speak to the pvp writ giver, take the bell back to LS. That's not the subject at hand, its the 10 minute zoning to lavastorm that's the problem.

Valdar

04-01-2009, 11:00 PM

This form of incessant dock zerging pvp is the worst thing to happen to this game for a long time. In stead of placing a writ giver in LS just give everyone their pvp gear so we can get this BS out of the way and we can actually have some interesting fights again.

Ibunubi

04-01-2009, 11:12 PM

<cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Shows how much thought gets put into this game.</blockquote>Shows how horrible of a thread this is.

Warr

04-01-2009, 11:18 PM

Yeah, was a bad idea to put in the fame change at the same time as a new zone tbh.

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-01-2009, 11:42 PM

TBH i think the fame change was terribly bad and lavastorm PvP will probably reign for quite some time. im sure most people are getting some shnitz like 5-7 FPS. no other thing in eq2 intensifies teh pvpz and heart like having a close fight with fame at risk. i realize, id prefer it didnt go through, lol. ;p the clusternugget o crud that pvp now is (in LS) would be ok if the servers could handle it. pvp in other zones is spotty and decent i spose.

Armironhead

04-02-2009, 10:06 AM

<cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>TBH i think the fame change was terribly bad and lavastorm PvP will probably reign for quite some time. im sure most people are getting some shnitz like 5-7 FPS. no other thing in eq2 intensifies teh pvpz and heart like having a close fight with fame at risk. i realize, id prefer it didnt go through, lol. ;p the clusternugget o crud that pvp now is (in LS) would be ok if the servers could handle it. pvp in other zones is spotty and decent i spose.</blockquote>ls pvp wont last to long. ls is a small crowded area that is largely unsuited for serious pvp. I suspect that once the newness wears off its back to kp docks.

Harbringer Doom

04-02-2009, 10:58 AM

Did Serili body drop his thesaurus when he hit 72?

resus

04-02-2009, 11:24 AM

It will be funny to have a Mail Post near LS or Nek Dock. Seriously, i dont really care to zone in Nek to get my writ, most of time i need to wait to get another writ so its a little break, but i want to bank my MONEY <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Proud_Silence

04-02-2009, 12:31 PM

Seliri seriously, i don't expect to read smart posts from the larger part of the player base, but i actually expected you to have somewhat of foresight when an Update like this goes live and not judge it after this short time has passed. Do you "really" think there will be 5 LS instances up still in a month ?When i read about the hostility towards the creators of this game i wonder why some of you people are playing EQ2. Seems like you're putting yourself through a lot of suffering ?Just for a moment, before accusing SOE of how horribly incompetent you think they are, think of what it takes to run a game like this. And that you are actually adressing human beings that are working for a living like everyone else.Put yourself in their shoes : how would you feel having to deal with customers that call you all kinds of nameds and accuse you and whatnot. yeah a real motivator indeed.no go on, and flame me, because- my post count is small- i'm not going with the flow- i'm showing emphasis for SoE while the flavor of the day is to bash on them for not releasing a flawless and "MMORPG-world"-braking updatewhatever..

Mactosh

04-02-2009, 12:47 PM

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>Yes, I'm aware of that but having to zone for 10 mins to get into nek and then another 10 mins to zone back into LS is a pain. The servers can't handle all your customers trying to zone through nek and back to LS. The servers can't even handle 24vs24 pvp without hicuping and causeing 2-5 sec casting delay. Even if the player isnt near the mass pvp but is in the same zone they will still exp the zone lag. If soe puts anymore customers on nagafen (merge) the problems gonna be much worse and cause zone crashing. This mass pvp zone lag has been a problem for awhile now. Somthing needs to be done if you continue to increase your customer base.

Proud_Silence

04-02-2009, 01:25 PM

10min it's fairly exagerating, because i don't think anyone's computer is worse then mine and aside from the odd crash to character screen it didn't take me longer then 3 minutes to zone either way, and i've been playing many hours since gu51. and maybe im just getting old..but i am not surprised at the server lag.i mean come on, new revamped zone is out, everyone wants to check it out, combined with the pvp changes you can be sure that Lavastorm will be flodded. Just like you can be sure it will lose population within the next days and weeks, as the first groups and guild finished the content and go back to what they always did - whatever that is they did before GU51.Can you really expect SoE to stack up on servers or whatever it takes to stabalize gameplay just for those couple days ? There has always been bottlenecks in MMORPG's whenever new content was and is released. I've been watching a friend trying to log in to "wow" and actually being happy to only be on a 12min queue ( [Removed for Content] ?)When a new blockbuster movie comes out, theaters are crowded...they don't build 3 extra buildings just so everyone feels calm and undisturbed in their experience watching the movie on the first weekend of release....At least the online games i know of all have to fight with the problem of server side lag now and then...and i just assume that SoE is doing their best to offer the best possible platform to play on with the ressources they have....

Ibunubi

04-02-2009, 01:43 PM

<cite><cite>Esio@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>It will be funny to have a Mail Post near LS or Nek Dock. Seriously, i dont really care to zone in Nek to get my writ, most of time i need to wait to get another writ so its a little break, but i want to bank my MONEY <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote></cite><cite>There's a bank, as well.</cite><cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>Yes, I'm aware of that but having to zone for 10 mins to get into nek and then another 10 mins to zone back into LS is a pain. The servers can't handle all your customers trying to zone through nek and back to LS. The servers can't even handle 24vs24 pvp without hicuping and causeing 2-5 sec casting delay. Even if the player isnt near the mass pvp but is in the same zone they will still exp the zone lag. If soe puts anymore customers on nagafen (merge) the problems gonna be much worse and cause zone crashing. This mass pvp zone lag has been a problem for awhile now. Somthing needs to be done if you continue to increase your customer base.</blockquote>You have been spoiled by the KP dock zerg for over a year. Get over it. Your problem is with server instability and not the placement of NPC's.

Mactosh

04-02-2009, 02:03 PM

<cite>Ibunubi wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><cite>Esio@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>It will be funny to have a Mail Post near LS or Nek Dock. Seriously, i dont really care to zone in Nek to get my writ, most of time i need to wait to get another writ so its a little break, but i want to bank my MONEY <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><cite></cite>There's a bank, as well.<cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>Yes, I'm aware of that but having to zone for 10 mins to get into nek and then another 10 mins to zone back into LS is a pain. The servers can't handle all your customers trying to zone through nek and back to LS. The servers can't even handle 24vs24 pvp without hicuping and causeing 2-5 sec casting delay. Even if the player isnt near the mass pvp but is in the same zone they will still exp the zone lag. If soe puts anymore customers on nagafen (merge) the problems gonna be much worse and cause zone crashing. This mass pvp zone lag has been a problem for awhile now. Somthing needs to be done if you continue to increase your customer base.</blockquote>You have been spoiled by the KP dock zerg for over a year. Get over it. Your problem is with server instability and not the placement of NPC's.</blockquote>Your just catching on to that? Soe knows how unstable the game is with mass pvp. You'd think that they would have put a writ giver in LS to soften the blow. As far as zoning goes.

Valdar

04-02-2009, 02:12 PM

<cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Ibunubi wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><cite>Esio@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>It will be funny to have a Mail Post near LS or Nek Dock. Seriously, i dont really care to zone in Nek to get my writ, most of time i need to wait to get another writ so its a little break, but i want to bank my MONEY <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><cite></cite>There's a bank, as well.<cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>Yes, I'm aware of that but having to zone for 10 mins to get into nek and then another 10 mins to zone back into LS is a pain. The servers can't handle all your customers trying to zone through nek and back to LS. The servers can't even handle 24vs24 pvp without hicuping and causeing 2-5 sec casting delay. Even if the player isnt near the mass pvp but is in the same zone they will still exp the zone lag. If soe puts anymore customers on nagafen (merge) the problems gonna be much worse and cause zone crashing. This mass pvp zone lag has been a problem for awhile now. Somthing needs to be done if you continue to increase your customer base.</blockquote>You have been spoiled by the KP dock zerg for over a year. Get over it. Your problem is with server instability and not the placement of NPC's.</blockquote>Your just catching on to that? Soe knows how unstable the game is with mass pvp. You'd think that they would have put a writ giver in LS to soften the blow. As far as zoning goes.</blockquote>Or you could, like, not mass pvp?Cheapest and easiest solution.

Ibunubi

04-02-2009, 02:29 PM

<cite>Ocko@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Your just catching on to that? Soe knows how unstable the game is with mass pvp. You'd think that they would have put a writ giver in LS to soften the blow. As far as zoning goes.</blockquote>I'm just catching on to it? Are you seriously that dense? Mass PvP has been downhill since EoF released. Putting a writ giver in LS would make the zone horrible beyond what it is now.Like I said, you were spoiled by KP dock zerg and having a writ giver within arms reach. Get over it. There hasn't ever been a writ giver in LS, and there won't be because it's one click away. This thread is a joke because you start on about a writ giver when you're really just complaining about instability.

Harbringer Doom

04-02-2009, 02:51 PM

Magius789

04-02-2009, 02:56 PM

There is a bank on the Isla of Mara if you have the expansion for it. Its even within running distance of the dock immunity so you can bank and get out before loosing it.

Elephanton

04-02-2009, 04:10 PM

<cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>OK, then fix freaking zoning already because it takes 15 minutes to zone to Nek, and 15 minutes to zone back to Lava on Harla-Dar.

Trojamonkee

04-02-2009, 05:09 PM

No writ giver in LS, YOU POOR THING now it will take 1 day per piece not 8 hours per piece LOLSee what kind of people you are now catering to SOE? Grats on that.

Harbringer Doom

04-02-2009, 07:18 PM

<cite>Magius789 wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is a bank on the Isla of Mara if you have the expansion for it. Its even within running distance of the dock immunity so you can bank and get out before loosing it.</blockquote>Yeah, at this point, I don't want to add another zone to my trip out of LS.As it stands, if you finish a writ, and some quests, and have some cash on you, you need to find the bell amongst the corpses and battle royale on the dock, zone to Nek, get a new writ, zone to mara, bank, zone back to Nek, then zone back into Lavastorm.On the average day, I could not care less of that amount of zoning. These days it takes me 3 - 5 minites to zone, which feels like an eternity. Putting all the new content, and the new quest givers so close to the dock was a(nother) mistake of epic proportions.

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-02-2009, 07:50 PM

LS PvP likely wont die down given the rate at which people can churn out writs.Seriously took me EIGHT MINUTES to zone last time...and my specs aren't a joke, either.Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8400 3.0GHz (stock) ATI Radeon 4870 HD (stock) WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM 8 GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 1066 MHZ Creative X-Fi Platinum Windows XP x64 SP2

Valdar

04-02-2009, 09:23 PM

<cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>your log in servers cant handle all the requests that develop when 5 lavastorms are up. writ givers need to be in lavastorm to offset this issue. this is not an issue, it simply needs to happen.</blockquote>If they put a writgiver in LS then noone would leave LS and people that are now spread out over 5 LS instances would be in 1. This would make the server even laggier and probably crash it a few times a day, which would lead to angry people.SOE has given this more thought then the OP imo....

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-02-2009, 10:07 PM

<cite>Phaust@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite><blockquote>There is one right outside Lavastorm on the Nektulos Docks.</blockquote>your log in servers cant handle all the requests that develop when 5 lavastorms are up. writ givers need to be in lavastorm to offset this issue. this is not an issue, it simply needs to happen.</blockquote>If they put a writgiver in LS then noone would leave LS and people that are now spread out over 5 LS instances would be in 1. This would make the server even laggier and probably crash it a few times a day, which would lead to angry people.SOE has given this more thought then the OP imo....</blockquote>Wrong. Each zone already fills it's actual max capacity anyways. Wouldn't change anything except lessen the ridiculous amount of zoning going on.

Faenril

04-03-2009, 04:31 AM

<cite>Horknut@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>Putting all the new content, and the new quest givers so close to the dock was a(nother) mistake of epic proportions.</blockquote>Exactly. Decreasing the amount of travelling involved in the new quests is another factor in favor of docks zerg. Unfortunately they never learn, which is one of the main reasons why so many long term players are so upset against the dev staff. What is a person doing same mistakes over and over again called ?

Muraazi

04-03-2009, 04:57 AM

<cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>LS PvP likely wont die down given the rate at which people can churn out writs.Seriously took me EIGHT MINUTES to zone last time...and my specs aren't a joke, either.Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8400 3.0GHz (stock)ATI Radeon 4870 HD (stock)WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM8 GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 1066 MHZCreative X-Fi PlatinumWindows XP x64 SP2</blockquote>So what exactly is the difference of before the update and now? You could churn writs just as fast, the only change is no fame loss on death and the interest in the new lava update, so everyone knows people will be there. Nothing in the writ system has changed. There are simply more targets... Be it the targets are there because of lava, because they won't lose fame, I don't know. My point being, people wanted pvp and now they have it.If SoE reverted the fame change, the population in lava might die down alittle. But one thing for sure would happen, people would start guarding their titles again. Which in the end, no matter how you cut it, leads to less pvp. However, leads to more interesting fights. Which will probably come back when the lava rush begins to die down. It did when writs were first introduced...

Kurindor_Mythecnea

04-03-2009, 06:23 AM

<cite>Muraazi wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Seliri@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>LS PvP likely wont die down given the rate at which people can churn out writs.Seriously took me EIGHT MINUTES to zone last time...and my specs aren't a joke, either.Core 2 Duo Wolfdale E8400 3.0GHz (stock)ATI Radeon 4870 HD (stock)WD VelociRaptor 300GB 10K RPM8 GB OCZ Platinum DDR2 1066 MHZCreative X-Fi PlatinumWindows XP x64 SP2</blockquote>So what exactly is the difference of before the update and now? You could churn writs just as fast, the only change is no fame loss on death and the interest in the new lava update, so everyone knows people will be there. Nothing in the writ system has changed. There are simply more targets... Be it the targets are there because of lava, because they won't lose fame, I don't know. My point being, people wanted pvp and now they have it.If SoE reverted the fame change, the population in lava might die down alittle. But one thing for sure would happen, people would start guarding their titles again. Which in the end, no matter how you cut it, leads to less pvp. However, leads to more interesting fights. Which will probably come back when the lava rush begins to die down. It did when writs were first introduced...</blockquote>

Zexxii

04-03-2009, 11:05 AM

<cite>Phaust@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>This form of incessant dock zerging pvp is the worst thing to happen to this game for a long time. In stead of placing a writ giver in LS just give everyone their pvp gear so we can get this BS out of the way and we can actually have some interesting fights again.</blockquote>/amen

Cloakentuna

04-03-2009, 11:11 AM

People need to move back to KP imo. At least then people got bored and started traveling around in solos/small groups in the rest of the RoK zones allowing for SOME good fights.

Zexybeast

04-03-2009, 11:18 AM

Had a couple of decent fights in JW yesterday... If you want to PvP there, just go there and fight.

Elephanton

04-03-2009, 03:08 PM

<cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>No writ giver in LS, YOU POOR THING now it will take 1 day per piece not 8 hours per piece LOLSee what kind of people you are now catering to SOE? Grats on that.</blockquote>You are completely dumb. Do you honestly expect that people will be willing to continue playing the game where you can actually fight 3 minutes, and then stare at zoning screen for another 30 minutes before the next fight?

Valdar

04-03-2009, 04:19 PM

<cite>ElephantonRU wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>No writ giver in LS, YOU POOR THING now it will take 1 day per piece not 8 hours per piece LOLSee what kind of people you are now catering to SOE? Grats on that.</blockquote>You are completely dumb. Do you honestly expect that people will be willing to continue playing the game where you can actually fight 3 minutes, and then stare at zoning screen for another 30 minutes before the next fight?</blockquote>Yes, people know there is massive lag and long zoning times when going to LS but still go there and not to another zone where this doesn't occur.

max.power

04-03-2009, 04:29 PM

<cite>Phaust@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ElephantonRU wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>No writ giver in LS, YOU POOR THING now it will take 1 day per piece not 8 hours per piece LOLSee what kind of people you are now catering to SOE? Grats on that.</blockquote>You are completely dumb. Do you honestly expect that people will be willing to continue playing the game where you can actually fight 3 minutes, and then stare at zoning screen for another 30 minutes before the next fight?</blockquote>Yes, people know there is massive lag and long zoning times when going to LS but still go there and not to another zone where this doesn't occur.</blockquote>But.. but... that would be too easy! Naaah, better come here and complain! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />This community gets dumber and dumber...

Elephanton

04-04-2009, 07:13 AM

<cite>Brain@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Phaust@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>ElephantonRU wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Trojamonkee wrote:</cite><blockquote>No writ giver in LS, YOU POOR THING now it will take 1 day per piece not 8 hours per piece LOLSee what kind of people you are now catering to SOE? Grats on that.</blockquote>You are completely dumb. Do you honestly expect that people will be willing to continue playing the game where you can actually fight 3 minutes, and then stare at zoning screen for another 30 minutes before the next fight?</blockquote>Yes, people know there is massive lag and long zoning times when going to LS but still go there and not to another zone where this doesn't occur.</blockquote>But.. but... that would be too easy! Naaah, better come here and complain! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/385970365b8ed7503b4294502a458efa.gif" border="0" />This community gets dumber and dumber...</blockquote>Other zones are completely deserted at this time, so people are forced to go where the action is going.So the choice is basically to log, or go fight in LS dealing with zoning nightmare.Agree on your point on community - people like you don't understand obvious things.