The Current status of Terris-Thule

[Seerk]

<p>Me and many others like me who very much like the Terris/Cazic Thule lore and deities have been wondering.. has there been any hint as to the return of Terris-Thule as a diety? or any current in game lore pertaining to her current whereabouts?</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Terris was more than likely absorbed back into Cazic Thule in order to keep his plane from being completely destroyed during the rending. The gods did state that some of the lesser dieties have disappeared altogether, while most of the families have had to withdraw thier planes back into the leader.</p><p>Saryrn went back to Innoruuk</p><p>Terris Thule back to Cazic Thule</p><p>Morrel Thule back to Cazic Thule.... or quite possibly Quellious. I heard, but cannot confirm, that Terris and Morrel were actually created by Cazic and Quellious.</p><p>The Zeks back to Rallos Zek</p><p>The Ro's back into Solusek, though Druzzil Ro, Goddess of Magic, might have been strong enough to maintain her plane. For being a lesser diety, she proved to us that she's more powerful than EVERYONE at the end of Planes of Power.</p><p>If she does return, you can bet Morrel will be there to balance her out though.</p>

[glowsintheda]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Terris was more than likely absorbed back into Cazic Thule in order to keep his plane from being completely destroyed during the rending. The gods did state that some of the lesser dieties have disappeared altogether, while most of the families have had to withdraw thier planes back into the leader.</p><p>Saryrn went back to Innoruuk</p><p>Terris Thule back to Cazic Thule</p><p>Morrel Thule back to Cazic Thule.... or quite possibly Quellious. I heard, but cannot confirm, that Terris and Morrel were actually created by Cazic and Quellious.</p><p>The Zeks back to Rallos Zek</p><p><strong>The Ro's back into Solusek</strong>, though Druzzil Ro, Goddess of Magic, might have been strong enough to maintain her plane. For being a lesser diety, she proved to us that she's more powerful than EVERYONE at the end of Planes of Power.</p><p>If she does return, you can bet Morrel will be there to balance her out though.</p></blockquote><p>This doesn't make a lot of sense as Solusek was actually just the burning prince, and I find it hard to believe that his daddy Fennin, Tyrant of Fire, would be absorbed into his son.</p>

[SaraBH]

<p>If you really wish to get info on Terris at this point (Unless they deside to add her in some way later) I suggest you seek out you guild leaders and ask them.... Sasonu and Xehl are always willing to fill in the blanks for you.</p><p>(To all you lore people this is a role play thing they dont really no anything we just been making it up till such time as SOE proves us wrong)</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>^ don't suggest roleplaying unless you know the lore info is confirmed.</p>

[shadowscale]

<p>im not exactly sure how much, but the defiler epic quests talks about Terris-Thule.</p>

[Zin`Car]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>^ don't suggest roleplaying unless you know the lore info is confirmed.</p></blockquote><p>indeed... that's how BS of people playing dark elves get to calling themselves "drow" as well as "speaking in drow" gets started...</p><p>personally i am from the Matrix.  You're all spoons and cannot tell me otherwise because it's my game and i'm going to roleplay how i want." /stamps little foot</p><p> Or... maybe.. i'm a JEDI!!!  woohoo!  ya i am roleplaying a jedi.  so there!  "No droids here bomb-bads!  move it!"</p><p>sounds dammed stupid doesnt it?  so does RPing something that isn't true to game yet claiming thats what you'll do since it's "your game".  Fantasy is fantasy...  labels mean nothing, so claiming "rping a jedi is different than a drow" is hypocritical.</p><p>`nuff said</p>

[SaraBH]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>^ don't suggest roleplaying unless you know the lore info is confirmed.</p></blockquote><p>the way i figure it. We are a cult and when have you ever heard of a cult telling the entire truth? lake of real lore to an evil guild like ours can just as good as real lore. Fanatics need very little to point them in the right dirrection and watch the carnage.</p><p>If sometime down the way we get proved wrong? Well then we will cross that pit wene it comes. Probly with something allong the lines of "Lady Terris had us lie to our members for so long so her real aggenda was not fouled before we could make it happen."</p>

[eqaddictedfool]

<p><cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>^ don't suggest roleplaying unless you know the lore info is confirmed.</p></blockquote><p>indeed... that's how BS of people playing dark elves get to calling themselves "drow" as well as "speaking in drow" gets started...</p><p>personally i am from the Matrix.  You're all spoons and cannot tell me otherwise because it's my game and i'm going to roleplay how i want." /stamps little foot</p><p> Or... maybe.. i'm a JEDI!!!  woohoo!  ya i am roleplaying a jedi.  so there!  "No droids here bomb-bads!  move it!"</p><p>sounds dammed stupid doesnt it?  so does RPing something that isn't true to game yet claiming thats what you'll do since it's "your game".  Fantasy is fantasy...  labels mean nothing, so claiming "rping a jedi is different than a drow" is hypocritical.</p><p>`nuff said</p></blockquote><p>Now i am no roleplayer but why cant he think hes a drow or a jedi? In the society he would just be a loony to everyone else. In the real world we have people think strange things such as them being the president of the world and what not. Does it make it true? absolutly not. Just makes them look crazy to everyone else if ya catch my drift.</p>

[Meirril]

<p>Ya know, we go off on some wild tangents and have our own pet theories of what may or may not be going on with various Dieties, Leaders, and other major figures in Norrath. However, the basic rule around here is that unless its backed up by something in game or posted by Devs in the forums it is just an opinion.</p><p>That is why this is called the History and Lore forum. While I'm sure roleplayers would find this information to be helpful, as several people have pointed out above roleplay isn't based on Lore. Its based on personality, and possibly some mutually agreed upon terms.</p><p>But this is the Lore forums. When I am in the Roleplay Forum, I'll respect your convetnions. Please do the same in return and stop pointing out why you don't need Lore here. Thank you.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>I'm not saying it's a bad thing to roleplay that you worship Terris Thule regardless of her unconfirmed condition of existance. I'm just saying it's not a good idea to post it on the lore board in particular unless you state you're roleplaying and that nothing you say is true (unless proven otherwise.)</p><p>Your roleplaying would be more than welcome on the Traveler's Tales board though. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[SaraBH]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm not saying it's a bad thing to roleplay that you worship Terris Thule regardless of her unconfirmed condition of existance. I'm just saying it's not a good idea to post it on the lore board in particular unless you state you're roleplaying and that nothing you say is true (unless proven otherwise.)</p><p>Your roleplaying would be more than welcome on the Traveler's Tales board though. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>thats why i put the disclaimer at the bottum of my first post. even put in there how it was role play and nothing more.</p>

[SaraBH]

<p><cite>Meirril wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ya know, we go off on some wild tangents and have our own pet theories of what may or may not be going on with various Dieties, Leaders, and other major figures in Norrath. However, the basic rule around here is that unless its backed up by something in game or posted by Devs in the forums it is just an opinion.</p><p>That is why this is called the History and Lore forum. While I'm sure roleplayers would find this information to be helpful, as several people have pointed out above roleplay isn't based on Lore. Its based on personality, and possibly some mutually agreed upon terms.</p><p>But this is the Lore forums. When I am in the Roleplay Forum, I'll respect your convetnions. Please do the same in return and stop pointing out why you don't need Lore here. Thank you.</p></blockquote><p>I am so not saying i dont Want IT. I want it so much its not even funny, how i would love to bring real Lore to my guild so we can use that for our guild. Problem is Lore on Terris is next to nothing. Iv asked at least 2 times so far if there was ANYTHING. I got nothing so istead of pouting about it or complaning about it i desided that i would make it up so my guild didnt go completly stagnet. Till we hear more or know the real Lore i told a guild member of mine to ask in our guild.</p><p>Maybe thats the problem. so you all know Seerk there is a guild member of mine. </p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>glowsinthedark wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Terris was more than likely absorbed back into Cazic Thule in order to keep his plane from being completely destroyed during the rending. The gods did state that some of the lesser dieties have disappeared altogether, while most of the families have had to withdraw thier planes back into the leader.</p><p>Saryrn went back to Innoruuk</p><p>Terris Thule back to Cazic Thule</p><p>Morrel Thule back to Cazic Thule.... or quite possibly Quellious. I heard, but cannot confirm, that Terris and Morrel were actually created by Cazic and Quellious.</p><p>The Zeks back to Rallos Zek</p><p><strong>The Ro's back into Solusek</strong>, though Druzzil Ro, Goddess of Magic, might have been strong enough to maintain her plane. For being a lesser diety, she proved to us that she's more powerful than EVERYONE at the end of Planes of Power.</p><p>If she does return, you can bet Morrel will be there to balance her out though.</p></blockquote><p>This doesn't make a lot of sense as Solusek was actually just the burning prince, and I find it hard to believe that his daddy Fennin, Tyrant of Fire, would be absorbed into his son.</p></blockquote><p>Fenin wouldn't be, as he was one of the four Elemental Gods. Solusek Ro is a God of Influence and God of the Sun, and not Fenin's sub diety. Same goes for Tarrew Marr not absorbing Prexus or the Marr twins. Tarrew Is an Elemental God, and Prexus and the Marr Twins are Gods of Influence. They are all separate and independant of themselves and were born of the Elemental Gods, save Prexus.  Sub dieties were diefied mortals, or sometimes aspects of a God of Influence.</p><p>Whether the Triumvirate became one diety, We do not know.</p><p>Solusek is indeed the Burning Prince, but he is also the Sun God, and a God of Influence. Fenin is the Ruler of fire itself and is powerful enough to not need to "absorb" Solusek.</p><p>Just FYI: Theoretically speaking, Luclin is the "moon goddess" since she took the moon Luclin for herself.  She is also a God of Influence, but doesn't really dabble in Norrath's affairs and keeps to herself. There is not a whole lot of lore around her due to her secluded nature.  For all we know, she may have never left norrath, and kept on observing us when the other gods left.</p><p>As for Drinal. As far as I know, Drinal doesn't claim the other moon for which it is named. Also, as far as I know, Drinal is considered a sub-diety with no birthing god of influence that we know of.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Bandorn@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Fenin wouldn't be, as he was one of the four Elemental Gods. Solusek Ro is a God of Influence and God of the Sun, and not Fenin's sub diety. Same goes for Tarrew Marr not absorbing Prexus or the Marr twins. Tarrew Is an Elemental God, and Prexus and the Marr Twins are Gods of Influence. They are all separate and independant of themselves and were born of the Elemental Gods, save Prexus.  Sub dieties were diefied mortals, or sometimes aspects of a God of Influence.</p><p>Whether the Triumvirate became one diety, We do not know.</p><p>Solusek is indeed the Burning Prince, but he is also the Sun God, and a God of Influence. Fenin is the Ruler of fire itself and is powerful enough to not need to "absorb" Solusek.</p><p>Just FYI: Theoretically speaking, Luclin is the "moon goddess" since she took the moon Luclin for herself.  She is also a God of Influence, but doesn't really dabble in Norrath's affairs and keeps to herself. There is not a whole lot of lore around her due to her secluded nature.  For all we know, she may have never left norrath, and kept on observing us when the other gods left.</p><p>As for Drinal. As far as I know, Drinal doesn't claim the other moon for which it is named. Also, as far as I know, Drinal is considered a sub-diety with no birthing god of influence that we know of.</p></blockquote><p>Luclin is the Goddess of Shadows. She's also a god of influence, but she intentionally stays hidden in the shadows of the affairs of all others. She named Luclin after herself because she claimed it and kept it hidden from the eyes of most of the rest of the universe.</p><p>Drinal is the Natural Spirit of death and rebirth (not a diety.) It's unknown who or what named Drinal as such, but there is no actual diety named Drinal.</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bandorn@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Fenin wouldn't be, as he was one of the four Elemental Gods. Solusek Ro is a God of Influence and God of the Sun, and not Fenin's sub diety. Same goes for Tarrew Marr not absorbing Prexus or the Marr twins. Tarrew Is an Elemental God, and Prexus and the Marr Twins are Gods of Influence. They are all separate and independant of themselves and were born of the Elemental Gods, save Prexus.  Sub dieties were diefied mortals, or sometimes aspects of a God of Influence.</p><p>Whether the Triumvirate became one diety, We do not know.</p><p>Solusek is indeed the Burning Prince, but he is also the Sun God, and a God of Influence. Fenin is the Ruler of fire itself and is powerful enough to not need to "absorb" Solusek.</p><p>Just FYI: Theoretically speaking, Luclin is the "moon goddess" since she took the moon Luclin for herself.  She is also a God of Influence, but doesn't really dabble in Norrath's affairs and keeps to herself. There is not a whole lot of lore around her due to her secluded nature.  For all we know, she may have never left norrath, and kept on observing us when the other gods left.</p><p>As for Drinal. As far as I know, Drinal doesn't claim the other moon for which it is named. Also, as far as I know, Drinal is considered a sub-diety with no birthing god of influence that we know of.</p></blockquote><p>Luclin is the Goddess of Shadows. She's also a god of influence, but she intentionally stays hidden in the shadows of the affairs of all others. She named Luclin after herself because she claimed it and kept it hidden from the eyes of most of the rest of the universe.</p><p>Drinal is the Natural Spirit of death and rebirth (not a diety.) It's unknown who or what named Drinal as such, but there is no actual diety named Drinal.</p></blockquote><p>That's basically what I said.  Except for what Luclin's domain is, and she is also the goddess of secrets.  I have always thought of her as a true neutral diety, since she takes no ones side at all in terms of good and evil. Thank you for being specific though, I may have confused some people in making them think she is a moon goddess as Diana/Artemis is or FR's Selune is. which she isn't of course.</p><p>I, myself, know Drinal is not a true diety, although it has a governing duty. I said subdiety, cuz some governing bodies are still generally classified as subs, and not spirits or governing bodies. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">U</span>nless they are being spoken of directly. If they are not elemental gods, or gods of influence, any other power has traditionally been generally classified as a sub. </p><p>They should really create an "other" category when we speak of higher powers.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Yeah but that's the thing: Drinal isn't a diety. It's not a sub-diety either. it's just a natural representation. If it were a diety, it would have a concious as far as the rest of the pantheon goes. All the dieties, sub-dieties, and demi-gods can think on thier own.</p><p>Oh I'm just splitting hairs here. It really doesn't matter..</p>