whats the best pvp stance for us to be in what ya all think off,,def,,,our fire stance,,,

[laawintown]

<p>whats all ya think for  the best  pvp stance  i    have all 3 mastered,</p><p>    and  whats the best useage for   are mid stance   the fire stance</p><p>  also   i have  2 sets of gear </p><p>set 1 alll tank  gear  that focus on tanbk stats,, parry,, defelection,,,etc</p><p>set 2 all  dps  set that  focus on dps stats  mellee  crit  ,,, double attack etc</p><p>set 3  mostly for raiding  resist  my main target on this  set</p><p> i want to be a better pvper ive never realy did a lot of pvping  have about 1700 kills   and about 450 deaths  dont know if this is bad our good  only  title i have is slayer  i solo a ton  and quest a ton.</p><p> i want to be a  better pvper any advise is welcome.</p><p>raiding is my passion</p>

[Ol]

<p>It really depends on what class your fighting. but for the most part Offensive stance works for everyone.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>laawintown wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>whats all ya think for  the best  pvp stance  i    have all 3 mastered,</p><p>    and  whats the best useage for   are mid stance   the fire stance</p><p>  also   i have  2 sets of gear </p><p>set 1 alll tank  gear  that focus on tanbk stats,, parry,, defelection,,,etc</p><p>set 2 all  dps  set that  focus on dps stats  mellee  crit  ,,, double attack etc</p><p>set 3  mostly for raiding  resist  my main target on this  set</p><p> i want to be a better pvper ive never realy did a lot of pvping  have about 1700 kills   and about 450 deaths  dont know if this is bad our good  only  title i have is slayer  i solo a ton  and quest a ton.</p><p> i want to be a  better pvper any advise is welcome.</p><p>raiding is my passion</p></blockquote><p>I would guess offensive vs mages and mid vs the rest.</p>

[Ol]

<p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>laawintown wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>whats all ya think for  the best  pvp stance  i    have all 3 mastered,</p><p>    and  whats the best useage for   are mid stance   the fire stance</p><p>  also   i have  2 sets of gear </p><p>set 1 alll tank  gear  that focus on tanbk stats,, parry,, defelection,,,etc</p><p>set 2 all  dps  set that  focus on dps stats  mellee  crit  ,,, double attack etc</p><p>set 3  mostly for raiding  resist  my main target on this  set</p><p> i want to be a better pvper ive never realy did a lot of pvping  have about 1700 kills   and about 450 deaths  dont know if this is bad our good  only  title i have is slayer  i solo a ton  and quest a ton.</p><p> i want to be a  better pvper any advise is welcome.</p><p>raiding is my passion</p></blockquote><p>I would guess offensive vs mages and mid vs the rest.</p></blockquote><p>no, offensive stance is a must for tanks, since they are harder to hit. and you should have it for healers too, since you want them dead before they can heal. only exception really is scouts, but even then...</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Ocik@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lethe5683 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>laawintown wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>whats all ya think for  the best  pvp stance  i    have all 3 mastered,</p><p>    and  whats the best useage for   are mid stance   the fire stance</p><p>  also   i have  2 sets of gear </p><p>set 1 alll tank  gear  that focus on tanbk stats,, parry,, defelection,,,etc</p><p>set 2 all  dps  set that  focus on dps stats  mellee  crit  ,,, double attack etc</p><p>set 3  mostly for raiding  resist  my main target on this  set</p><p> i want to be a better pvper ive never realy did a lot of pvping  have about 1700 kills   and about 450 deaths  dont know if this is bad our good  only  title i have is slayer  i solo a ton  and quest a ton.</p><p> i want to be a  better pvper any advise is welcome.</p><p>raiding is my passion</p></blockquote><p>I would guess offensive vs mages and mid vs the rest.</p></blockquote><p>no, offensive stance is a must for tanks, since they are harder to hit. and you should have it for healers too, since you want them dead before they can heal. only exception really is scouts, but even then...</p></blockquote><p>I'm not sure if it works the same in pvp servers but most of tanks avoidance is uncontested which means offensive skills do pretty much nothing.  Healers you're right though... didn't really even think of them.</p>

[Bruiseyou2]

<p>On scouts and fighters I use full defensive, this ups my avoidance to 85% so I take very little dmg. Then since I'm not getting beat down really bad I don't need to take them down fast anyway.</p><p>Full offensive for mages and healers, save your stuns for when they start to heal or cast their heavy hitters. Use Close Mind to avoid being stunned or stifled yourself.</p><p>The only class that should give a bruiser trouble in a duo is a paladin cause of their high mit and self heals. They can eventually wear you down if given the chance. Oh alright I suppose a monk could be a challenge too if played right <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Insayn31]

<p><cite>Bruiseyou2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On scouts and fighters I use full defensive, this ups my avoidance to 85% so I take very little dmg. Then since I'm not getting beat down really bad I don't need to take them down fast anyway.</p><p>Full offensive for mages and healers, save your stuns for when they start to heal or cast their heavy hitters. Use Close Mind to avoid being stunned or stifled yourself.</p><p>The only class that should give a bruiser trouble in a duo is a paladin cause of their high mit and self heals. They can eventually wear you down if given the chance. Oh alright I suppose a monk could be a challenge too if played right <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Bruisers are gonna have trouble with more than just Pally's.  Raid geared Inquisitors are impossible to kill.  Mystic's and defilers with GBW destroy's us. And wizzy's with Mana Shield, Dispersion and Najena's Ring are tough as well.  Not to mention OP SK's. </p>

[peepshow]

<p><cite>Insayn31 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Raid geared Inquisitors are impossible to kill.  </p></blockquote><p>Tell me about it, one of our inq's like to pvp, and he is impossible to get down..</p><p>Any good ideas to what I can do to really own him ?</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>Insayn31 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bruiseyou2 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>On scouts and fighters I use full defensive, this ups my avoidance to 85% so I take very little dmg. Then since I'm not getting beat down really bad I don't need to take them down fast anyway.</p><p>Full offensive for mages and healers, save your stuns for when they start to heal or cast their heavy hitters. Use Close Mind to avoid being stunned or stifled yourself.</p><p>The only class that should give a bruiser trouble in a duo is a paladin cause of their high mit and self heals. They can eventually wear you down if given the chance. Oh alright I suppose a monk could be a challenge too if played right <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Bruisers are gonna have trouble with more than just Pally's.  Raid geared Inquisitors are impossible to kill.  Mystic's and defilers with GBW destroy's us. And wizzy's with Mana Shield, Dispersion and Najena's Ring are tough as well.  Not to mention OP SK's. </p></blockquote><p>bane warding gear is so OP its rediculous... seriously OP... it will get a huge nerf hit soon no doubt. </p><p>as for other tanks, i dont even bother fighting them unless its a set up 1 v 1, cuz the fight just takes too long and eventually 4 of his friends will get called in and gank me, and then they and the original tank will "dry hump" me as if it were some big accomplishment..</p><p>You have to know your limitations, sure we can beat tanks.. junker tanks are a snap... if you know they are equally skilled / geared, its gonna take a few minutes for the fight, and it usually is a power fight..</p><p>As for the stance i use?  Defensive ALWAYS...   sure probably mages and what not i could swap to offensive real fast, but they have such cruddy avoidance and mitigation i dont need to, i dont miss any attacks.  My thought is... If your alive you can fight, if your dead your not doing any damage... so if you run around in Offensive and get beat up cuz you only have leather armor and crappy avoidance your gonna take more damage and lose more fights, then you end up blowing your heals at the wrong times...</p><p>As for mages manashields, either burn through them using knockout, or just do what i do on mages, dont give them a chance to cast manashields <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  close mind + chi + knockout + lightning fists + 5 knockdown CA's = dead mage before they get a single spell off.  if they happen to get it off on ya, fear + mez + well timed knockdown CA's and auto attacks will leave them with no power and no ability to cast, cuz you just wait till you see their hands waving around and toss in an knockdown... rinse and repeat for 30 seconds if you dont think you can burn through it</p><p>Healers... i usually pretend like im running away so they cant preward / heal / buff.... make them sprint and use power and then pop all my temps and mantis leap to em and destroy them before they know what hit em.</p><p>Scouts: LOLz...  need i say more /pwned</p>

[Kram337]

<p>if it takes you "minutes" to kill another tank, you're doing something wrong. No offense but I generally take down tanks in <15 seconds. Maybe I've been lucky.</p>

[Ol]

<p><cite>Insayn31 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Raid geared Inquisitors are impossible to kill.  Mystic's and defilers with GBW destroy's us.</p><p> And wizzy's with Mana Shield, Dispersion and Najena's Ring are tough as well. </p><p>Not to mention OP SK's. </p></blockquote><p>the only thing that really gives bruisers trouble are healers (except for druids). but when do you see a shaman/cleric solo? not very often. Wizzies, there not to hard. just activate damage boosters, and pop close mind and stone deaf. With knockout, the wizzy should be able to cast anything, and if he gets of manasheild just activate your mezz. since mezz doesnt break when they have manashield up(same goes with wards), you can either A. sit there and burn, or B. run and hide for 30 seconds.</p>

[Lethe5683]

<p><cite>Ocik@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Insayn31 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Raid geared Inquisitors are impossible to kill.  Mystic's and defilers with GBW destroy's us.</p><p> And wizzy's with Mana Shield, Dispersion and Najena's Ring are tough as well. </p><p>Not to mention OP SK's. </p></blockquote><p>the only thing that really gives bruisers trouble are healers (except for druids). but when do you see a shaman/cleric solo? not very often. Wizzies, there not to hard. just activate damage boosters, and pop close mind and stone deaf. With knockout, the wizzy should be able to cast anything, and if he gets of manasheild just activate your mezz. since mezz doesnt break when they have manashield up(same goes with wards), you can either A. sit there and burn, or B. run and hide for 30 seconds.</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #00ccff;">I bet duals are quite different than pvp but in a duel healers never beat me.  They can't damage me enough to matter and I can basically just autoattack and go afk untill they run out of power.</span></p>