Wow, inquis dps!

[Kram337]

<p>My swashie went to tank Crypt of Agony for a group the other day. My swash is mostly in RoK legendary gear with a 2-3 TSO legendary peices. Nothing fansy. I have my fabled epic.</p><p>So the group had a 75 fury and 70 defiler. We're looking for one more and we invite an 80 inquis. I'm thinking "seriously? as if our dps wont suck enough as is". Turns out this inquis is parsing at 2k+ every pull.</p><p>For a point of reference the whole group wasn't parsing very high. I was the highest parser at about 2.5-3.5k per fight. Group dps was only around 7k total.</p><p>The question: I didn't bother looking at his gear, or when I did look I dont recall whether or not he was fully fabled or not. But what's it take to get this kind of dps? I assume he had to forfiet all his healing to do even that 2k.</p>

[Calain80]

Wasn't such a high parse for a well equipped / played Inquisitor, but as a well played DD can reach 10k DPS vs single mobs (much more for groups) that isn't an issue.

[Mew]

<p>Yeah, that was pretty routine dps for an 80 inquis.  The inquis gets much improved dps over most priest classes (except, maybe a good fury) but the trade off is the lowest heal parse of any priest class.  Its all in the AA's and gear.  A battle cleric spec'd inquis with some solid plate armor with nice CA bonuses and some +DA will turn the Inquisitor into an unholy food processor.  2K parse is doable with tier 2 ROK gear.</p><p>P.S.  He didn't have to forfeit all of his healing to do it - just some bonuses that were mainly gear based.</p>

[w1sch]

<p>I have to disagree with Mews.</p><p>Imho you can do same dps with templar than with inq. Templar has alot dps choices per aa too you just have to try.</p><p>I recently even got the impression that a templar who cares for dps and has access to / motivation to farm  the right gear has a higher damage potential than an inquisitor.</p><p>Also i have the opinion you can roughly do same dps with most other healer classes. I have to admit that there are alot healer that don't want to even try because its not "their job" and that's ok for me but every healer has some dps potential.</p><p>Don't agree with lowest heal parse of all healers too. Lotto heals and stoneskin aside you can heal almost the same with inquis than with templar. There are situations /encounters where some healer classes shine but on the whole all healer classes can roughly heal the same.</p><p>@thread</p><p>2k dps is in line with ok healer dps and , no offense,  2,5 -3.5 k for a swashy is not much at all. There's room for improvement.</p>

[Calain80]

<p><cite>Thorny@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I recently even got the impression that a templar who cares for dps and has access to / motivation to farm  the right gear has a higher damage potential than an inquisitor.</p><p>Also i have the opinion you can roughly do same dps with most other healer classes. I have to admit that there are alot healer that don't want to even try because its not "their job" and that's ok for me but every healer has some dps potential.</p></blockquote><p>That's right. Currently a Templar that has access to high end gear can do higher DPS then an Inquisitor. But it is easier for an Inquisitor to do mediocre damage. Also a Mystic or Druid can do some descend DPS. A Fury can for sure put out some crazy numbers. I think the two other melee priests can do on par with an Inquisitor.</p><p><cite>Thorny@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Don't agree with lowest heal parse of all healers too. Lotto heals and stoneskin aside you can heal almost the same with inquis than with templar. There are situations /encounters where some healer classes shine but on the whole all healer classes can roughly heal the same.</blockquote><p>While an Inquisitor can solo heal any heroic instance in game it is a lot more work to do so then with a Templar. The Inquisitor has for sure a lower max practical heal potential then a Templar. It is only, that you don't need the full potential most of the time. (I don't know for sure, but I think that for real fights both Shamans have a higher potential for single target healing (due to not wasting anything) and both druids have a better potential for group healing.)</p>

[Avirodar]

<p>2k dps?  Lol, talk about weak.  -Any- priest that is just DPSing should be doing more at level 80.</p>

[Orthureon]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>2k dps?  Lol, talk about weak.  -Any- priest that is just DPSing should be doing more at level 80.</p></blockquote><p>I reach around 2-2.7k dps with JUST autoattack nm attacks.</p><p>On a sad note, I wish I made a half elf, they get a 916 mit debuff attack at 80 ftw 1 min duration 1 min recast.</p>

[Kram337]

<p>A couple of classes get that mit debuff attack btw.</p><p>Also, the group dps was pretty low, that might have affected the inquisitor though it seems like the dps, since its mostly coming from auto attacks anyway, is pretty much sustained.</p><p>Since my post I've gotten my inquis to 42, playing gingerly. It's been fun though. I've got battle cleric aa line and the full crit line from the cleric tree. Not sure whether my next stop should be heading towards sta's tree with the 32% double attack or going for that seemingly very cool STR end line ability. Forget the name.</p><p>I'm on pvp, so that str line ability might be a better bet. Guess I can fill up the 32% double attack then swap to str when I have enough to get the end ability.</p>

[Orthureon]

<p><cite>Kram337 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A couple of classes get that mit debuff attack btw.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Yes, the Kerran, which is a better overall choice.</span></strong></p><p>Also, the group dps was pretty low, that might have affected the inquisitor though it seems like the dps, since its mostly coming from auto attacks anyway, is pretty much sustained.</p><p>Since my post I've gotten my inquis to 42, playing gingerly. It's been fun though. I've got battle cleric aa line and the full crit line from the cleric tree. Not sure whether my next stop should be heading towards sta's tree with the 32% double attack or going for that seemingly very cool STR end line ability. Forget the name.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Called Steadfast, and if you get it remember that when you move it takes 2 seconds for the immunity to take effect. At end game PVP it is not that great since everyone has knockbacks and massive dps. So much so they can usually just beat you down and on your few attempts to heal knock you all over the place.</span></strong></p><p>I'm on pvp, so that str line ability might be a better bet. Guess I can fill up the 32% double attack then swap to str when I have enough to get the end ability.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Get STR and the Mez from AGI. Mez is REALLY nice on everything pre 70, as it is not often resisted AND it gives you time to debuff/reactive anybody without worry. No one would pop the vessal when they see an Inquis they don't think twice about our CC.</span></strong></p></blockquote>

[Kram337]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Kram337 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A couple of classes get that mit debuff attack btw.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Yes, the Kerran, which is a better overall choice.</span></strong></p><p>Also, the group dps was pretty low, that might have affected the inquisitor though it seems like the dps, since its mostly coming from auto attacks anyway, is pretty much sustained.</p><p>Since my post I've gotten my inquis to 42, playing gingerly. It's been fun though. I've got battle cleric aa line and the full crit line from the cleric tree. Not sure whether my next stop should be heading towards sta's tree with the 32% double attack or going for that seemingly very cool STR end line ability. Forget the name.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Called Steadfast, and if you get it remember that when you move it takes 2 seconds for the immunity to take effect. At end game PVP it is not that great since everyone has knockbacks and massive dps. So much so they can usually just beat you down and on your few attempts to heal knock you all over the place.</span></strong></p><p>I'm on pvp, so that str line ability might be a better bet. Guess I can fill up the 32% double attack then swap to str when I have enough to get the end ability.</p><p><strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">- Get STR and the Mez from AGI. Mez is REALLY nice on everything pre 70, as it is not often resisted AND it gives you time to debuff/reactive anybody without worry. No one would pop the vessal when they see an Inquis they don't think twice about our CC.</span></strong></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>Fair advice. Though I duo mostly with a zerker who does most the tanking when he can hold agro off me. Steadfast is nice and I use it for a solo spec sometimes. but in a group it doesn't mean much to me and the Agi line with 32% double attack has increased my dps a considerable amount. Both zerker and I are in mc str gear and I out dps him by quite a bit. Though he's using sword and board.</p><p>I also found getting the first TSO dps buff more worthwhile than steadfast. Currently I'm 58 and spec'd 15 points in TSO for the dps buff, 26 or so points in battle cleric, sta 44882, agi 448. I do mean dps, pvp well, and group well. Though steadfast is amazing for soloing anytime you get more than 1-2 mobs on you. You can't get a heal off to save your life. But steadfast changes all that.</p><p>I can't wait for level 70 then I can have steadfast, sta, and the agi tree all at the same time. going to be one awesome class when I'm all done. =)</p>

[AzuraRutlanGGT]

<p>I'm level 80 in the span of 10 played days.  Got 131 AAs.  My gear is a mix of t8 mastercrafted and t1 (working on filling out my t1 set and went Ground Granite for the DPS).  No shard jewelry yet.  I can reach up to 3k on the parse and I'm honestly not very good.  Should see a large jump in DPS when I get my Thex Mallet and finish capping off my t1 set and t2 (infused) jewelry.  From what I've heard from a now retired Inq in my guild, 4k should be typical when geared and not pushing hard.  Push hard and 5k+ is possible.</p><p>Your heals will suck balls and generally your power pool will suck but you can be an effective off-healer in the main DPS group of a raid.  BTW anyone who tells you that you can't DPS and do not bring any unique buffs to a group where there is already a cleric obviously has not seen the beauty of a ad3 or m1 Devotion.</p>