Server Population

[uhwtf]

<p>Venekor is about to lose another very large chunk of population if something isn't done soon. And when I say soon I'm talking about within the month.</p><p>I know right now there isn't any news to report, but that's my point. In december we were being told that in early '09 the population issues would be looked into. People have been biding their time for almost 3 months now and its almost time to stop waiting.</p><p>We're not even asking for any action, just let us know what's going on. It's been almost 3 months, we're paying customers, we deserve to know what you've been discussing all this time other than "We'll let you know when there's news to give." Even if it is either "We want to merge servers, maybe in the summer or fall." or "We are not going to be merging the pvp servers in the forseeable future." I don't care if you've gotta get technical and say "Well we'd like to merge, but  we're trying to figure out what to do with the Station exchange server, we'll keep you posted." You owe us that much at least.</p><p>Venekor can't take much more of this and I'd doubt EQ2 can take much more of players cancelling considering how desperate the recruite a friend and station cash features makes it look.</p>

[Warr]

<p>Exactly, give us some type of status before its too late. Financially, its in SOE's best interest if they want to keep their current subscribers, let alone have them recruit any friends.</p><p>Those who want to recruit a friend most of the time feel bad for their friend because they're not only bringing them to a practically nonexistant server, but then that person gets discourages because its empty, thinks the game is dead, cancels and does back to whatever other mmo they were playing before.</p><p>The ball is in SOE's court, and the clock is ticking.</p>

[Mary the Prophetess]

<p>"We will merge no server before it's time"</p><p><em><span style="font-size: xx-small;">--sorry Orson</span></em></p>

[Smithe]

<p>it’s getting to the point that it’s a insult to Paying subscribers. SOE don’t seem to care how many subscribers they lose as long as people are willing to pay the $50.00 to transfer. I have applied for beta of Darkfall I would rather pay for a new game than to pay to transfer server’s.  it’s a matter of principle IF SOE dont care about the game why should we?</p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span ><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 115%;"><strong><span style="color: #ae7807;"><span style="font-family: Calibri;"></span></span></strong></span></span></p>

[Easymode]

<p>Yea this is taking the mickey just a lil bit, sony just want money from us hence no server merge and $50 transfer fees, all they have to do is merge vene and vox and they will keep alot of players from stopping thier subscriptions. but i think sonys greed is stopping this!</p>

[Sephamon]

<p>An unfortunte example of the consequence of SoE's inaction is my girlfriend just cancelling her account. Primary reason given on the exit survey: Population too low on Venekor.</p><p>This is the reality, and unfortunately more and more people who dont usually, if ever, voice their opinions will leave quietly out the back door whilst the rest of us plead to a cold corporate entity to throw us a friggn bone.</p><p>Time to act Sony.</p>

[Darkor]

<p>I managed to my get co-worker to play this game. He is level 43 now and has never ever grouped with anyone yet. Im afraid he will be a complete noob at 80 when it comes to dungeon crawling.</p>

[Wolfsight]

<p>Ah Darathar 2.0 while more people are on than back then (would be around 30 people on at times Qeynos side) there have been many new zones added with TSO instancing alot of them zones. Bigger zones and instances are all going to lower chances of finding that mage update you have been looking weeks for and with an already low population chances wasn't that high to start off with.</p><p>I have been doing alot of City PvP as of late, for the last 4 or 5 days I did a daily run into freeport and after all that have a grand total of 13 kills out of it. To make it even worse I sat right next to the banker in SFP (Most active zone for City PvP right now) with an afk flag up checking track, took 15 minutes untill someone that conned me to zone and another 5 min before they decided to attack. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Paranormal_Researcher]

<p>Anyone here play team fortress 2?</p><p>You know how they have a dev blog where they post news about changes but also news about what changes theyre working on before they have decided how to fix it?</p><p>Thats what these people want SOE, just get some guy that is in on the "What to do about Venekor" meetings and make that dude throw up a 15 minute write up of what you guys have been discussing.</p><p>I want venekor back as much as anyone, on Nagafen if I try roleplaying its like having a pool party with a bunch of rocks.</p><p>They drown.</p>

[Desna]

<p>Way to go, beating this dead horse. There's how many threads on this?</p><p>Yeah, at this point something other than just purely being ignored would be fantastic. But tbh, how long did it take them to merge Darathar? I doubt it'll be much different with Venekor...and if you look strictly at the numbers, who knows---Venekor might not even look that bad to them in terms of current active subscriptions on Venekor. Sad truth, their new expansion allowed for more people to hide away and gave people more places to be at one time--ROK was great for pvp because everything in the expansion was consolidated into Kylong Plains and its two connecting zones, all of which were big but could be traversed relatively fast (with no silly immune spots dotting the map).</p><p>Sony, if you don't want to merge, at least do us the decency of somehow fixing the mess and put more contested zone content into the game, something other than just Avatars and the lame excuse for a zone that Moors is. Remove the [Removed for Content] safe points and the writs and give people a reason to pvp.</p>

[seahawk]

<p>I'm not on venekor, but I agree with the OP.  I saw the initial post by some GM that said "they were looking into it".  It has been awhile, roughly 2.5 months ago.  Too long to not have an update. </p><p>From a customer service stand point point of view, it borders on unacceptable. </p><p>What say you Sony? </p>

[sokil]

<p>SOE does not give out any information as is their practice (call it very poor customer service) with the exception of when a new MMO is being relased such as Feb. 9, 2009 they said</p><p>"<span ><span style="color: #ffffff;"> </span>With the next test update comes a change to the fame system.  You will no longer lose fame when you die but there will be some decay built into the system.  The ranks start out easier to build fame with while also having minimal decay.  As you increase in rank then its harder to build up additional infamy while the decay rate increases proprotionaly. Hopefully, in the long run it will encourage more pvp as people no longer run due to fear of losing fame but instead fight hoping to win so that they can maintain and gain additional infamy.</span></p><p>Also with this update is a change to "zerging" as players often refer to it.  What happens is that if you are in a group fighting and you die you can no longer hit revive and immediately reenter the fight.  You can still be rezzed back into the fight just like normal pve combat but you just can't revive and jump back into the fight.  Once the battle is over you will then be able to revive and join back into the fight.</p><p>Hopefully these two changes will have a positive impact on the overall pvp gameplay environment.   Due to the fighter changes and raid testing, these options will not likely be enabled on test copy but you are still free to feedback them here in this thread."</p><p>They did the same thing when War cam out and AOC. Guess its to keep people hoping for something.. anythiing.</p><p>Yes, they should take a page from Darkfall. When mistakes and problems accured, they had a thread to let people know what is going on and the fixes they were expecting.</p><p>TBH, I moved to naggy a long time ago and paid 600$ to do so. Today, if it were not for pvp and that fact that I have put many years and 2 accounts into this game, I would have stopped playing and even that is reaching the end. A little information would go a long way. I do not think people are asking, nor expecting, specifics that come with the update notes, just something...anything...</p>

[Smithe]

<p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Desna, this is not the fist and not the last post on this topic I am sure you will see many more until SOE address the problem. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I would be shocked if the server population has not dropped drastically I don’t think they are all hiding In TSO look at your guild roster how many have you had transfer to Nagy or just plain quit? </span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">Sochi, if SOE thinks that the changes they have made to pvp are going to help the server population I can tell you before it even goes live that it’s a epic fail in that category. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No matter what the pvp rule set is you’re still fighting the same 10 people.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;">  </span>Not to mention the GU 51, 52 53 whatever it’s called have been pushed back until when Christmas? (Don’t even get me started on the broken fighter class’s atm)</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 10pt;"><span style="font-size: small; font-family: Calibri;">And yes a little information would go a long way!!!! Something!! atm we believe you don’t care. Say no/yes we are thinking about it we hear your voice!! Something for crying out load or poor Desna is going to have to see 100 more threads on the same topic…… until people give up and quit the game that is.....</span></p>

[Warr]

<p>I say, Mass Scheduled Exodus!</p><p>Instead of waiting for a deadline, lets give them a deadline! If by April 15th 2009, no information has been given, all those on the fence go ahead and cancel. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Tharcyl]

<p><cite>Warren@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I say, Mass Scheduled Exodus!</p><p>Instead of waiting for a deadline, lets give them a deadline! If by April 15th 2009, no information has been given, alOl those on the fence go ahead and cancel. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I'm in <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/e8a506dc4ad763aca51bec4ca7dc8560.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Faenril]

The only thing SOE will eventually hear (especially when some peeps are ready to spend $600 on transfering) is cancellations. If a massive - lol - amount of players from Venekor cancel invoking server pop as the reason, then they may notice. $$$ is the only thing that will make them take some action. But then of course the community has to act as a whole, much easier said than done when you need your daily evercrack and already rolled on alt on nagy or transfered 1 toon over there... Best luck on your crusade anyway ppl.

[Desna]

<p>They'd probably hear it just as loud if the community just stopped paying for transfers tbh. A lot of "cancellations" get reactivated anyway, I've known quite a few people who said they'd quit and came right back a few weeks later. Gotta love evercrack...but anyway, if people just stopped paying for the transfers it would still hurt them. Let em roll alts or new mains on Naggy. Just don't pay them for it.</p>

[Kaltona]

<p>How about the other way round for me, if they do a merger I will RESUBSCRIBE, something I doubt SOE has has much of recently.</p><p>April 15th SOE, get to it!</p>

[Easymode]

<p>There wont be a server merge for a while i dont think. Sony will hold it off as long as possible so they can keep making money from transfers. When they do merge it still might not help. I was originally on Darathar and when it merged with venekor alot of people transfered to pve servers or stopped playing so the population dropped quite quickly. just another angle to consider!</p>

[Smithe]

<p><cite>Warren@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I say, Mass Scheduled Exodus!</p><p>Instead of waiting for a deadline, lets give them a deadline! If by April 15th? 2009, no information has been given, all those on the fence go ahead and cancel. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>  April 15th? Just to get a response? You are generous I am not going to give them a month just to respond to me. I have been playing Darkfall this weekend and it’s a clean game I can see me breaking my evercrack addiction with darkfall.</p>

[Easymode]

<p>ive never played darkfall! whats it like?? same idea with races and classes?</p>

[BlueX002]

<p>I decided to rejoin a few weeks back after not playing for several YEARS, but the venekor population is so low at the time I play its unplayable especially as a pvp server. So I petitioned and asked for a free/discounted transfer because I do not feel I should have to Pay an extra 50 dollars to play, I pay 14.99 to play. This is what I received as a response so unfortunatly I will not be renewing after this GIFT 30 day gamecard expires. My 2 account monthly membership trumps the 1(highest char only) free or discounted transfer I asked for.</p><p>Sorry Sony you lose this battle.</p><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><span style="color: #ff0000;">Response (TSR Darwin B)</span></td><td align="right"><span style="color: #ff0000;">03/13/2009 02:43 PM </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Hello,We are sorry you feel this way, but we cannot offer a free, nor a a discount for character transfers. It's is not our intention to see a server with a low population, but we do not control the server that other players wish to play on, We're also not responsible for other players wishes to not play on a specific server. Servers are an option upon starting an account and character. Thus this server issue is out of our control.Regards,Darwin B.Customer Support RepresentativeSony Online Entertainment</span></td></tr><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></p>

[linen123]

<p>Well SOE consider my pot boiled over cause iam completly done with this game cya kalenes out....... cant take this suffering population and so u lost another loyal customer off to wow where i guess they actually care or back to my normal life not playing mmo's and focusing on college. Cya all Kalene has signed out for good.<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2e207fad049d4d292f60607f80f05768.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Novusod]

<p><cite>Easymode@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ive never played darkfall! whats it like?? same idea with races and classes?</p></blockquote><p>Darkfall only has six races and NO defined classes. There are no levels or AA to grind but you have to grind up skills and harvest constantly. If you die your entire corpse is looted of all gear so players skill grind and harvest naked while being prayed upon by raids of players in awesome gear. In short Darkfall sucks don't go there.</p>

[Easymode]

<p>Will avoid darkfall then. and with regards to the reply sony gave for the the transfer fees, that just proves that they dont give a f*ck about server population if u read it! charming sony, thanks alot!</p>

[Azekah1]

<p><cite>Novusod wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Easymode@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>ive never played darkfall! whats it like?? same idea with races and classes?</p></blockquote><p>Darkfall only has six races and NO defined classes. There are no levels or AA to grind but you have to grind up skills and harvest constantly. If you die your entire corpse is looted of all gear so players skill grind and harvest naked while being prayed upon by raids of players in awesome gear. In short Darkfall sucks don't go there.</p></blockquote><p>Just goes to prove the difficutly in creating a balanced pvp environment in a MMO atmosphere...</p><p>I give credit to SOE for doing what they did with this game, considering the complexity of the pve game...</p>

[Desna]

<p>Well, most of VA just transferred to Nagafen or outright quit, with a handful of people left behind. So there goes another chunk of Venekor population out the window.</p><p><span style="font-size: large; color: #ff0000;">SONY PLEASE ANSWER US!</span></p>

[Warr]

<p>Which is what I was referring to in the original post, except it happened much faster than I expected. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Cyst]

<p>How bad is it? I left my character in the enemies city, at the bank while making my daughters mac-n-cheese. I came back and wanted to cry when I found myself alive.</p>

[Darkor]

<p><cite>Cyst@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How bad is it? I left my character in the enemies city, at the bank while making my daughters mac-n-cheese. I came back and wanted to cry when I found myself alive.</p></blockquote><p>I find that hard to believe, sorry.</p>

[Cigam]

<p>Dont let me find ya when i get over there!!</p>

[Wolfsight]

<p><cite>Darkor@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyst@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How bad is it? I left my character in the enemies city, at the bank while making my daughters mac-n-cheese. I came back and wanted to cry when I found myself alive.</p></blockquote><p>I find that hard to believe, sorry.</p></blockquote><p>Wouldn't suprise me really since I can say the same thing when I City PvP, guild halls killed ALOT of what was fun now I can "afk" next to the bank in SFP for over 15 min and noone attacks ...</p>

[Magius789]

<p><cite>BlueX002 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I decided to rejoin a few weeks back after not playing for several YEARS, but the venekor population is so low at the time I play its unplayable especially as a pvp server. So I petitioned and asked for a free/discounted transfer because I do not feel I should have to Pay an extra 50 dollars to play, I pay 14.99 to play. This is what I received as a response so unfortunatly I will not be renewing after this GIFT 30 day gamecard expires. My 2 account monthly membership trumps the 1(highest char only) free or discounted transfer I asked for.</p><p>Sorry Sony you lose this battle.</p><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><span style="color: #ff0000;">Response (TSR Darwin B)</span></td><td align="right"><span style="color: #ff0000;">03/13/2009 02:43 PM </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Hello,We are sorry you feel this way, but we cannot offer a free, nor a a discount for character transfers. It's is not our intention to see a server with a low population, but we do not control the server that other players wish to play on, We're also not responsible for other players wishes to not play on a specific server. Servers are an option upon starting an account and character. Thus this server issue is out of our control.Regards,Darwin B.Customer Support RepresentativeSony Online Entertainment</span></td></tr><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></p></blockquote><p>Anyone else find it ironic the SOE customer support representative is named Darwin, as in the Darwin awards?  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cyst]

<p><cite>Wolfsight@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Darkor@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cyst@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>How bad is it? I left my character in the enemies city, at the bank while making my daughters mac-n-cheese. I came back and wanted to cry when I found myself alive.</p></blockquote><p>I find that hard to believe, sorry.</p></blockquote><p>Wouldn't suprise me really since I can say the same thing when I City PvP, guild halls killed ALOT of what was fun now I can "afk" next to the bank in SFP for over 15 min and noone attacks ...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah I'm sure part of it has to be caused by guild halls. But if our population has dwindled to the point that the only people left are in a guild, inside of a guild hall it concerns me more. It means there are no new players.</p>

[Cyst]

<p>Double post.</p>

[Smithe]

*bump*

[Abstract]

<p><strong><em>It took SOE FOREVER to merge EU servers with US. and they were regular pvp servers, they might not ever</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>merge any of the pvp servers. just because 2 of the 3 have tags. they always said Exchange servers were </em></strong></p><p><strong><em>FINAL. no leaving.  how often do they merge RP servers with Non RP servers? Ppl think they will merge Venekor and Vox. I dont see that happening, ever. the best bet is Venekor and Nagafen, but i think thats still a stretch.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>just think, a year and a half ago ppl kept saying "we always see commercials for WoW, why dont we ever see some for EQ2?" </em></strong></p><p><strong><em>SOE wants to spend money on "other" games, LON for instance. I see more crap about that crappy game in EQ2 then anything.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Server population is low because they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">WONT</span> advertise EQ2 AT ALL! I have been playing since launch. I was up to 3 accounts. I canceled 2. I wont be  subscribing them again. This situation is completely "fixable". Maybe that means advertising or maybe merger. What sucks about it all, is we as a community have sit back and suffer while we continue to pay for shotty service. they will not fix this anytime soon. i have already said good bye to good friends that could not bare it any longer. Its only a matter of time before another guild /cancels. ppl are begging for a half way decent game to come out. wether its Darkfall or Aion. SOE doesnt realize or care that come 2010,when 2 more MMO's with pvp launch, mass exidous will happen. if death doesnt come before that, those releases will be the killing blow to Venekor/Vox.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>/survey says ADVERTISE YOUR GAME!!!!</em></strong></p><p><em>/</em> vent off</p>

[Sephamon]

<p><cite></cite>This makes me feel sick everytime I read it, especially the bolded parts including the conclusion he came to in the final line.</p><blockquote><blockquote><p><table cellspacing="0" cellpadding="1" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td><span style="color: #ff0000;">Response (TSR Darwin B)</span></td><td align="right"><span style="color: #ff0000;">03/13/2009 02:43 PM </span></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2"><span style="color: #ff0000;">Hello,We are sorry you feel this way, but we cannot offer a free, nor a a discount for character transfers. <strong>It's is not our intention to see a server with a low population</strong>, but we do not control the server that other players wish to play on, We're also not responsible for other players wishes to not play on a specific server. Servers are an option upon starting an account and character. <strong>Thus this server issue is out of our control.</strong>Regards,Darwin B.Customer Support RepresentativeSony Online Entertainment</span></td></tr><tr><td> </td></tr></tbody></table></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>So I ask to the powers that be: Is this truley the attitude of SoE towards the server population issue currently on Venekor?</p>

[Diamonds]

<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">Hello Everyone,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">I don't mean to tick anyone off about the server population issue, but the bottom line is that you have to pay the $50.00 dollars.  I know it sucks and I really feel bad for all of you who have about 6 characters at level 80, a guild, and friends; however, this issue is not going to be addressed and your best option is to save the money (We're in a recession) and transfer them all or stick it out.  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">I hate the fact that Sony isn't professional in the fact that they have not fixed their character transfers website in a timely manner and they want us to do things manually.  (Really that's just unprofessional and whoever is in charge should get fired).  </span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">I'm finally going to get some extra cash from an escrow that is to close next week so I'll be transferring over to the Nagafen server with my girlfriend.  I don't have much time to play anymore as I have college courses, but heck this game is probably the best mmo on the market.  I will be giving the original Everquest a shot though.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">I wish you guys the best of luck,</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #ffff00;">Diamante</span></p>

[draxhellion]

<p><cite>Abstract@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><strong><em>It took SOE FOREVER to merge EU servers with US. and they were regular pvp servers, they might not ever</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>merge any of the pvp servers. just because 2 of the 3 have tags. they always said Exchange servers were </em></strong></p><p><strong><em>FINAL. no leaving.  how often do they merge RP servers with Non RP servers? Ppl think they will merge Venekor and Vox. I dont see that happening, ever. the best bet is Venekor and Nagafen, but i think thats still a stretch.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>just think, a year and a half ago ppl kept saying "we always see commercials for WoW, why dont we ever see some for EQ2?" </em></strong></p><p><strong><em>SOE wants to spend money on "other" games, LON for instance. I see more crap about that crappy game in EQ2 then anything.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Server population is low because they <span style="text-decoration: underline;">WONT</span> advertise EQ2 AT ALL! I have been playing since launch. I was up to 3 accounts. I canceled 2. I wont be  subscribing them again. This situation is completely "fixable". Maybe that means advertising or maybe merger. What sucks about it all, is we as a community have sit back and suffer while we continue to pay for shotty service. they will not fix this anytime soon. i have already said good bye to good friends that could not bare it any longer. Its only a matter of time before another guild /cancels. ppl are begging for a half way decent game to come out. wether its Darkfall or Aion. SOE doesnt realize or care that come 2010,when 2 more MMO's with pvp launch, mass exidous will happen. if death doesnt come before that, those releases will be the killing blow to Venekor/Vox.</em></strong></p><p><strong><em>/survey says ADVERTISE YOUR GAME!!!!</em></strong></p><p><em>/</em> vent off</p></blockquote><p>Totally agree with this and i have mentioned this to SOE before.   Being a marketing specialist I can tell you that they do need to advertise.</p><p>The LON crap is just crap... More ways to gain money and its just not SOE its every company trying to do this to offer new ideas. Man times aint like they use to be in life and in gaming.  Money hungry.</p><p>About the player xfers it should be 50 dollars for a whole account... And for our situation on venekor a free xfer.</p><p>I think that since blackguard and i dont think archonix is even there,  who were in pvp beta  i think since they been gone its just messed up.</p><p>Well as for me, i was in pvp beta and have had to pleasure to play on all the pvp servers even back on darath...   I was playing on venekor for a year but was on nagafen for most of the time...</p><p>I just left my lvl 80 on venekor few months ago and now playing on nagafen starting over.  To be honest i love it i wish i never xfered my dirge to nagafen to venekor. but oh well.</p><p>Things are great even starting over again on nagafen different class, different toon. but i wish my 80 and my high lvl sk was here but oh well.</p><p>Seriously you guys on venekor, just roll up a new toon.</p><p>The people who are handling and discussing the pvp situation this day is just well not so great. All our complaining  is not gonna do anything... because all they want is our money and if they loose a few accounts so be it.</p><p>Working for a major marketing company i can tell you this, we have over 50k clients and there is clients who are bad, we force them to cancel out cuz they are whiners and pains.  Iam sure sony does this too.</p><p>Things aint like they use to be back in the old days with everything.. the bottom line SOE doesnt care.</p><p>The same thing happened in eq1 pvp.</p><p>Maybe they coming up with a stupid idea to have a wide server battle and working to merge nagafen and venekor into another type of server LOL. Who knows i wouldnt be suprised.</p><p>Its sad but look at it from there perspective. Which is sad</p>

[max.power]

<p><cite>Diamonds wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">however, this issue <strong><span>is not going to be addressed</span></strong> and your best option is to save the money (We're in a recession) and transfer them all or stick it out.</span></p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span>We've already had an official response that SOE is looking into things and working on a solution. Who are you to come here and say the bold part?</span></span><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span> Seriously, as long as no "red name" comes along and says this, your words are everything but true. Do you like to stir the drama a bit more, huh?</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;"><span>The only thing we should worry about is, WHEN will they have a solution and WHAT will it be. I'm not going to transfer any of my toons as long as I don't know WHEN something will happen.</span></span></p>

[Vlahkmaak]

<p>EQ2 pvp is not a bad product - yes it leave alot to be desired (Z axis, beastl-ords, in combat troll regen, dead man floating, claymore mines and m60's for those zergers at the docks (ok, rangers get mines, sort of)).   And WHERE is my Copper Hammer of Striking????  You did just realease Kunark a year ago - some Burynai has to ahve this hidden away somewhere.</p><p>Why does SOE NOT advertise the game - perhaps they should hire someone from Coke-a-Cola or Pepsi to market for them because their current marketing director clearly does not understand their job description.</p><p>/Merge servers now please.</p>

[Wytie]

<p><cite>Cigam@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Dont let me find ya when i get over there!!</p></blockquote><p>Cigam <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Cigam]

<p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cigam@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Dont let me find ya when i get over there!!</p></blockquote><p>Cigam <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Hehe meant the person that sat at the freeport bank for hours and no one attacked. </p>

[Wytie]

<p><cite>Cigam@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Paill@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Cigam@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Dont let me find ya when i get over there!!</p></blockquote><p>Cigam <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Hehe meant the person that sat at the freeport bank for hours and no one attacked. </p></blockquote><p>ya know now that your a freep you really should have went back to warlock hehe <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" /></p><p>/flee</p>