Best class for an experienced casual gamer that likes to solo dungeons?

[nimblefeets]

<p>Would appreciate any response.</p><p>I am very experienced in mmos so I am not noob as far as gameplay is concerned(played wow for 4 years and raided, playing warhammer, played COV, COH, lotro)</p><p>But right now thanks to school I just don't have the time to raid or anything unfortunately.(If I could I would) So I'll mostly be soloing. But don't get me wrong, at end game I would like to do some non-raid dungeons in a group.</p><p>Another thing is this might sound really bizarre but I really love soloing old dungeon content. Yes, call me odd but the concept of returning to dungeons that were once dangerous to me and just blowing up the place is really fun for me.(especially considering raiding is not an option anymore)</p><p>Would appreciate any advice. Thank you!</p>

[Azekah1]

<p>coercer/illusionist</p><p>shadowknight</p><p>necromancer/conjuror</p><p>monk/bruiser</p><p>melee inquisitor/mystic/warden or fury</p><p>Any of those are great at soloing heroics...</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>coercer/illusionist</p><p>shadowknight</p><p>necromancer/conjuror</p><p>monk/bruiser</p><p>melee inquisitor/mystic/warden or fury</p><p>Any of those are great at soloing heroics...</p></blockquote><p>Thanks! Which one would be the best to down the end boss? I'm not really concerned with speed of killing as much as I am the ability to finish the instance.</p><p><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Motzi]

<p>Brigand > Bruiser > Inquisitor</p><p>As far as your stated goals, thats the class breakdown as I see it.</p><p>Some players will put the bruiser over the brigand, but you mention you like raiding, and while you can't do it now, you might later.  Bruiser has no raid marketability, so I place brigand first for you.</p><p>The previous classes all have strong soloability, but for numerous reasons I narrow it down to these 3.</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Brigand > Bruiser > Inquisitor</p><p>As far as your stated goals, thats the class breakdown as I see it.</p><p>Some players will put the bruiser over the brigand, but you mention you like raiding, and while you can't do it now, you might later.  Bruiser has no raid marketability, so I place brigand first for you.</p><p>The previous classes all have strong soloability, but for numerous reasons I narrow it down to these 3.</p></blockquote><p>Good point...but with a 3 year old and full time school(going to school for video game design) and a wife. I'm not sure I'll ever have time to raid again. I mean, I've never raided in eq2. I assume its all just as time consuming though...5 hour wipe fests tackling the hardest game content available and attendence being expected/demanded.</p><p>Who knows, maybe there is a casual guild out there that wouldn't mind taking me in(and raided late at night for 2-3 hours), but even then, casual guilds+raiding can mean a lot of frustration and time sinks.</p><p>But I shouldn't cut off my chance to ever raid....anything, of course, is possible. So choosing a class that would be decent at raiding(but is great at soloing hard bosses) wouldn't be too bad a choice for me.</p><p>Thanks, man.</p>

[Motzi]

<p>No problem.</p><p>Btw, you just described atleast 70% of my raid guild.  Married, young children, etc.</p><p>As an example we raid 8:30pm-11:00pm Central time and we're considered a fairly successful casual raiding guild.</p><p>There are lots of casual raid guilds accross all the servers. </p><p>Here in eq2, we frequently complete 3 raid zones in under 3 hours.</p><p>I wouldn't give up hope, you might find something that fits your playschedule, time commitments, and lifestyle.  All in all, I think your going to be alot more happier with eq2.</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No problem.</p><p>Btw, you just described atleast 70% of my raid guild.  Married, young children, etc.</p><p>As an example we raid 8:30pm-11:00pm Central time and we're considered a fairly successful casual raiding guild.</p><p>There are lots of casual raid guilds accross all the servers. </p><p>Here in eq2, we frequently complete 3 raid zones in under 3 hours.</p><p>I wouldn't give up hope, you might find something that fits your playschedule, time commitments, and lifestyle.  All in all, I think your going to be alot more happier with eq2.</p></blockquote><p>Yup. I love warhammer right now and the pvp is just so much fun and the pve content is casual friendly, but not very exciting. PVP is great however.</p><p>Wow tries to please everyone and the end result is everything ends up half-baked and they use devious bait and switch tactic on purpose which really got old.</p><p>PVE eq 2 will keep me happy from all the research I have done</p><p>pvp warhammer will keep me happy and I can tell from playing it a lot</p><p>A craptastic watered down version of both like wow where deception and bait and switching is king? Had me really unhappy.</p><p><img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Eugam]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>coercer/illusionist</p><p>shadowknight</p><p>necromancer/conjuror</p><p>monk/bruiser</p><p>melee inquisitor/mystic/warden or fury</p><p>Any of those are great at soloing heroics...</p></blockquote><p>Thanks! Which one would be the best to down the end boss? I'm not really concerned with speed of killing as much as I am the ability to finish the instance.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>It depends how much you like a class and its gameplay. Personally i suggests warden, shadowknight and necromancer. That doesnt mean that someone else is not more successful soloing with his bruiser. All classes have their unique solo gameplay and strats.</p>

[Noaani]

<p>Problem is, none of those three classes are particularly wanted for raids.</p><p>With everything the OP is after, I would suggest either a coercer or illusionist. Coercer is slightly better at soloing, but only 1 is wanted in a raid, illusionist is not quite as good a soloer (though still better than most classes), but most raids run with (or <em>want</em> to run with) 3 illusionists.</p><p>Both are highly sought after for groups as well.</p>

[Easymode]

<p>I would recommend a melee warden! they are awesome for soloing even heroic 3 ups 5 or 6 lvls above you!!</p>

[Azekah1]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Brigand > Bruiser > Inquisitor</p><p>As far as your stated goals, thats the class breakdown as I see it.</p><p>Some players will put the bruiser over the brigand, but you mention you like raiding, and while you can't do it now, you might later.  Bruiser has no raid marketability, so I place brigand first for you.</p><p>The previous classes all have strong soloability, but for numerous reasons I narrow it down to these 3.</p></blockquote><p>Maybe I'm just no good at soloing my brig/swash, but I always felt they were subpar soloers.</p><p>Sure they put out good damage and have ok survivability but thats it. They have nothing to get them out of tight situations.</p><p>Brawlers/sks get FD/self heals, healers well...self heal...chanters get to mez and summoners have pet tanks/heals.</p><p>theres a whole lotta options there that brig/swashys just can't come close to for soloing purposes...</p>

[Motzi]

<p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Maybe I'm just no good at soloing my brig/swash, but I always felt they were subpar soloers.</p><p>Sure they put out good damage and have ok survivability but thats it. They have nothing to get them out of tight situations.</p><p>Brawlers/sks get FD/self heals, healers well...self heal...chanters get to mez and summoners have pet tanks/heals.</p><p>theres a whole lotta options there that brig/swashys just can't come close to for soloing purposes...</p></blockquote><p>You're not a good brigand then <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Kill even con ^^^ nameds without the mob ever getting a chance to hit me.  Being able to force the mob to not face you long enough to kill it makes them an extremely effective soloer.  Then snares, etc to use while stuns / spins / locks refresh. </p><p>As far as getting out of tight situations?  Evac, FD (invis line)</p><p>But honestly, I just didn't get into many situations I could get out of.</p><p>Swash is entirely different though, not nearly as effective at soloing ^^^ content.</p>

[liveja]

<p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Maybe I'm just no good at soloing my brig/swash, but I always felt they were subpar soloers.</p></blockquote><p>I don't know about Brigand, but Swashies are only "subpar" at soloing ^^^ heroics, & even then, only for some Swashies.</p><p>My suggestion for the OP would also be Brigand or Chanter, with a bit more weight to the Chanters. If the OP really doesn't expect to raid much tho, a Bruiser might be better.</p>

[Aull]

<p>If melee is your style I would say the sk would be the absolute best choice. They have better aoe than any other fighter, single target dps is great, the ability (with aa's) to almost continuously leech life while doing damage at the same time. Awesome class and even better with good gear. No other fighter has the ability to be able to tank, single/multi target aggro/damage abiltiies, dps, and heal like the sk can. Sk's shine in almost every category over the other fighters.</p><p>The brawlers are ok but they cannot compete with the sk for the total package it takes to solo a dungeon. One on one brawlers are ok but nothing that makes them stand out and shame other fighters on single target dps. Most dungeons have encounter fights and this is where to brawlers do not shine. It can be done, but sk's will make this easier. Not to mention brawler heal is on to long a reuse timer. The only thing a brawler has is a good flop ability in fast refreshing fd. But fd doesn't do damage to the mob so that defeats that subject.</p><p>If caster is your style then coercer or illusionist all the way. These are probably the best soloer's in the game atm with all their utility and great dps. Both are very powerful in what they can do either solo, group, or raid environments.</p><p>This my sound biased toward the sk. I play a swashbuckler, zerker, sk, and bruiser. The only thing the swashie does better is the dps but even that is a close compairson too.</p>

[Anastasie]

<p>Wizard/Coercer would be your best option from what you describe. They can solo old dungeons and blow up heroics easily. They both excel at soloing and if you ever have time for raiding in the future - they are both great raiding classes. Some can even solo current tier dungeons, but that takes a lot of patience and deaths.  They do die more along the way since they are cloth wearers, but the xp debt is minimal and repairs don't cost that much. Wizards have the biggest nukes by far, but coercers are fast casting and can charm mobs.</p>

[Azekah1]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You're not a good brigand then <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Kill even con ^^^ nameds without the mob ever getting a chance to hit me.  Being able to force the mob to not face you long enough to kill it makes them an extremely effective soloer.  Then snares, etc to use while stuns / spins / locks refresh. </p><p>As far as getting out of tight situations?  Evac, FD (invis line)</p><p>But honestly, I just didn't get into many situations I could get out of.</p><p>Swash is entirely different though, not nearly as effective at soloing ^^^ content.</p></blockquote><p>I didn't say I couldnt kill stuff...it's just in a general sense, they don't have any good soloing tools...as in FD (wiz line, but ehh, I always favored it for AA that actually improved my dps), self heals, or CC, maybe I could do more if I did use the wiz line...</p><p>I mean, I know how to play the class...I can run in and stun lock a mob as long as I want, and dps out my butt, but if that doesn't kill the mob fast enough..Im gonna die, where as, a lot of those other classes have a lot of oh $hit options...</p><p>Evac is not a good soloing tool as you just gonna put yourself back at the start...not really helpful for soloing a dungeon...</p><p>That being said, I two boxed a brig/warden til 60 before I switched to pvp and was able to take on yellow group content...but just the brig alone? eh...</p>

[Dreco]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><p>You're not a good brigand then <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>Kill even con ^^^ nameds without the mob ever getting a chance to hit me.  Being able to force the mob to not face you long enough to kill it makes them an extremely effective soloer.  Then snares, etc to use while stuns / spins / locks refresh. </p><p>As far as getting out of tight situations?  Evac, FD (invis line)</p><p>But honestly, I just didn't get into many situations I could get out of.</p><p>Swash is entirely different though, not nearly as effective at soloing ^^^ content.</p></blockquote><p>Yes Brigs are good at defeating ^^^ heroics and yes they are wanted in raids</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p>You guys have me all confused now..hehe</p><p>All jokes aside, it seems it's narrowed down to a few after reading these posts. I just can't believe how nice and helpfull you guys are being..makes me want to stick around this game for a while. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p><p>For me the deal breaker would be, which I failed to include....who looks the coolest in gear? I realise this could be considered all relative. I do tend to prefer the melee side of things if for no other reason than the gear usually always looks cooler. I'm not sure about eq2, but I assume it's the same kinda deal.</p><p>I tend to like the big dudes with tacky looking glowing swords with nice cool looking over the top combat effects.</p><p>I tried out the brigand but the stealth thing combined with the stunning has me a little concerned....bosses are usually immune to that kinda stuff. And is this class daggers only?</p><p>That shadowknight sounded nice..AOE+ plate is always a good thing. I would assume they look good in gear.</p><p>So, in a nutshell...melee oriented class that looks good in gear and can handle huge weapons while blowing up(but hard)dungeons <strong>solo</strong>(and crushing the boss) while not being completely useless in a raid setting..lol</p>

[Motzi]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I tried out the brigand but the stealth thing combined with the stunning has me a little concerned....bosses are usually immune to that kinda stuff. And is this class daggers only?</p></blockquote><p>The few that are immune are not 'soloable' by anyone to be honest.  Daggers, swords, axes, whips.  Generally your in daggers and swords.</p><p>I hate to break it to you, appearance is going to be as much about race selection as it is class, and even then, there is LITTLE you can do to make yourself look different than everyone else.  Well, you can use the ingame RMT system to buy stuff, but other than that your limmited to the same 12 similar armor sets as everyone else in your archtype.</p><p>I exagerate some on the appearance, but once your in there for a while, you'll start to feel the same way.</p><p>SK *might* be better for you in this regaurd, just keep in mind their FD ability is a much longer refresh time, making them require a bit more patience for that solo farming stuff you talked about.</p>

[Anastasie]

<p>Sk's can be quite beastly - especially a big ogre one.  If you take the time to really learn the class and play it well, I doubt you would be disappointed.  SK armor looks nice and menacing too.</p>

[Aull]

<p>Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What you think looks cool is all that matters.</p><p>Honestly for the best soloing character the either enchanter will be very hard to beat. If you like casters.</p>

[Spyderbite]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yup. I love warhammer right now and the pvp is just so much fun</p></blockquote><p>I was about to suggest you roll a toon on one of the EQ2 PvP servers, until you said the above. If you like, warhammer pvp.. you'll absolutely hate EQ2 pvp. Either that or your expectations aren't too high. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I played warhammer PvP for a about two days before wondering if the developers knew what the acronymn even meant. XD</p>

[Vlahkmaak]

<p>Necromancer - screw the other classes.  Go afk and let your tank pet deal with the mobs so you can check on your kids real quick then come back and heal fast.  Play on your own time.  Level up as transmuter/alchy so you can make a ton of cash off the market place and gear yourself out well. </p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Yup. I love warhammer right now and the pvp is just so much fun</p></blockquote><p>I was about to suggest you roll a toon on one of the EQ2 PvP servers, until you said the above. If you like, warhammer pvp.. you'll absolutely hate EQ2 pvp. Either that or your expectations aren't too high. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> I played warhammer PvP for a about two days before wondering if the developers knew what the acronymn even meant. XD</p></blockquote><p>Well, warhammer pvp can be pretty fun on the right server..like Volkman, Dark crag, or Badlands..</p><p>On the wrong one? It can be downright horrible.</p>

[Gilasil]

<p>If you can solo even con ^^^ heroics without high end raid gear you're doing better then me and my bruiser.  If there's a class that can solo that kind of mob in non-raid gear (kind of hard to get raid gear if you don't plan to raid) it sure isn't the bruiser.  If that's what the op wants and someone knows such a class that's cool.  But it ain't the bruiser.</p><p>There are virtually no solo dungeons that I know of unless you count greyed out heroic dungeons, which I don't.   Therefore,iIf you want to solo dungeons that means taking on ^^^ heroics.   I guess the solo shard dungeon in testing might count but one dungeon does not a game make.  So if someone knows a class which can take on even con ^^^ heroics I'd go for that class.  But bruiser cannot without gear you're not going to get without raiding. Serious raiding.  Raiding in VP (I think, as I haven't gotten such gear I can't absolutely swear to it).</p><p>Bruiser does get the self heal and FD to get out of tough situations but I seem to recall that brigands get a 100% FD in an AA tree.  Brawler FD is never 100% reliable even mastered out at level 80 (although it's close by then).  If you absolutely want a solo outdoor class and nothing but a solo outdoor class bruiser is as good as any.</p><p>I do agree that bruiser has no raid marketability.  You can often get into raids for other reasons (they're having trouble filling it with true DPS classes so are willing to take a second rate DPS class; you're buddies with the raid leader; etc.) but except for a couple encounters, nobody brings along a bruiser for their raid utility.</p><p>(Sorry if I'm sounding bitter, but it looks like me and my bruiser are coming to the end of the line, mainly due to his toal lack of raid utility).</p>

[Mordith]

<p>There really is no contest: <strong>Necro</strong> or <strong>Bruiser</strong></p><p>Both can solo very well.  The key is that since you have a family/kids etc. there are going to be multiple interruptions. You get to FD for quick or long afk's.  From one who knows, there is no other choice.</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p>Thanks again for the tips, guys(and gals if any are)..</p><p>I narrowed it down to the death knight and Necro..</p><p>I started a ogre shadow knight on Antonio Bale server named "darkbeatdown" Yeah, I know, kind of a stupid name but I just couldn't think of anything..I'm absolutely loving him so far.</p><p>This game looks amazing at 2560x1600 resolution, btw..scales quite nice. Looks better than warhammer and way better than wow thats for sure. Actually, even a bit better than Vanguard. Age of conan looks a little better, but that game..meh, well, I'll just say has some problems and I hate it..lol..even though levels 1-18 are super fun.</p><p>I'm gonna try out a necro next. Perhaps I'll level them both for a bit to see which one I like better. I tried out the Bruiser and Brigand..I didn't like them nearly as much as this ogre shadow knight.</p>

[Eugam]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>So, in a nutshell...melee oriented class that looks good in gear and can handle huge weapons while blowing up(but hard)dungeons <strong>solo</strong>(and crushing the boss) while not being completely useless in a raid setting..lol</p></blockquote><p>Well, past level 20 or was it 25 , you can look like you want. EQ2 has appearance slots. Many players spend time to get items for appearance <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Most classes have access to two hander wepaons.</p><p>The raid might be the biggest problem. In most cases, if a SK wants to raid, he has to tank it <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Tank spots are rare <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> Enchanters, bards and sometimes healers have the best chances to find a spot.</p><p>I think its again the standart advice: Play what is fun for you. The rest will come to you...</p>

[Eugam]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I started a ogre shadow knight on Antonio Bale server named "darkbeatdown" Yeah, I know, kind of a stupid name but I just couldn't think of anything..I'm absolutely loving him so far.</p></blockquote><p>On AB ? LOL <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Try Darbedo next time <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Eugam wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I started a ogre shadow knight on Antonio Bale server named "darkbeatdown" Yeah, I know, kind of a stupid name but I just couldn't think of anything..I'm absolutely loving him so far.</p></blockquote><p>On AB ? LOL <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />  Try Darbedo next time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>That a server or a joke I just don't get?</p><p>I don't even see that one listed.</p>

[Eugam]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Eugam wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I started a ogre shadow knight on Antonio Bale server named "darkbeatdown" Yeah, I know, kind of a stupid name but I just couldn't think of anything..I'm absolutely loving him so far.</p></blockquote><p>On AB ? LOL <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /> Try Darbedo next time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>That a server or a joke I just don't get?</p><p>I don't even see that one listed.</p></blockquote><p>haha, Antonia bale aka AB is a roleplay server. A name like darkbeatdwon is not exactly what roleplayers want to see. Well, it could be worse. Thats why i suggested DAR<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">k</span>BE<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">at</span>DO<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">wn</span></p>

[Azekah1]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm gonna try out a necro next. Perhaps I'll level them both for a bit to see which one I like better. I tried out the Bruiser and Brigand..I didn't like them nearly as much as this ogre shadow knight.</p></blockquote><p>I have 2 accounts, one is station exchange with 12 character slots that is full..</p><p>the second has about 6 chars...</p><p>Oh yea, I have a third with about 6 more but that one hasn't been active in a looong time...</p><p>But yea, alts can be fun : ) You don't have to box yourself into one class...</p>

[Aull]

<p>A bruiser is a great everyday norrath quest toon, but I wouldn't rate them as a ^^^ heroic killing machine. Anyway no matter what class you are playing aa's, gear, and strats will be key in doing any thing.</p>

[liveja]

<p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>For me the deal breaker would be, which I failed to include....who looks the coolest in gear?</p></blockquote><p>Most definitely NOT the Brigand: that freekin' silly looking Hamburglar Hat has <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">got</span></strong> to go.</p>

[Motzi]

<p><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>For me the deal breaker would be, which I failed to include....who looks the coolest in gear?</p></blockquote><p>Most definitely NOT the Brigand: that freekin' silly looking Hamburglar Hat has <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">got</span></strong> to go.</p></blockquote><p>No way, my dorf brig was purposfully geared to look just like the hamburglar!</p>

[nimblefeets]

<p><cite>Azekah1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm gonna try out a necro next. Perhaps I'll level them both for a bit to see which one I like better. I tried out the Bruiser and Brigand..I didn't like them nearly as much as this ogre shadow knight.</p></blockquote><p>I have 2 accounts, one is station exchange with 12 character slots that is full..</p><p>the second has about 6 chars...</p><p>Oh yea, I have a third with about 6 more but that one hasn't been active in a looong time...</p><p>But yea, alts can be fun : ) You don't have to box yourself into one class...</p></blockquote><p>Very true.</p><p>I tried out the necro and I just didn't like him..I'm not sure why. But I went ahead and tried out a conjuror(the counter class) and made him one of those frog dudes...just to complete the ridiculous effect I made him pink and called him "froglegsyum" on ab server.</p><p>I kinda fell in love with the goofy character combination as stupid as that sounds..lol..The hippitty hoppitty frog man summoning stuff along withe gorgeous spell animations were just a blast. Funny thing is I created him as more of a joke, and now I'm loving the conjuror/froglok combination.</p>

[liveja]

<p><cite>Motzi@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>nimblefeets wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>For me the deal breaker would be, which I failed to include....who looks the coolest in gear?</p></blockquote><p>Most definitely NOT the Brigand: that freekin' silly looking Hamburglar Hat has <strong><span style="color: #ff0000;">got</span></strong> to go.</p></blockquote><p>No way, my dorf brig was purposfully geared to look just like the hamburglar!</p></blockquote><p>Dwarves are inherently silly & ugly, so you'd expect them to look almost normal in ugly, silly clothing.</p><p>To the OP: remember that success in soloing ^^^ nameds usually requires having good gear & spells/CAs to begin with. IOW, in order to farm the nameds to get the gear/money, you kinda want to have the gear/money in the first place. I'd strongly suggest you get used to harvesting for rares, both to have your own spells/CAs upgraded, & to have stuff to sell to make enough money to buy the rest of the stuff you need.</p><p>At a minimum, you want your primary spells & CAs to be Adept 3.</p>

[Vlahkmaak]

<p>Necro app2 pet can solo even con ^^^ - you just need tainted ehals.  As you get better gear you can do even better.  Get an ad3 pet and island gear and you can do almost anything on a necro.  Tainted ehals is your friend.  Necro is AA dependent but not ahrd to solo all that AA easy either. </p>

[Jai1]

<p>It's eiher 42 or a DE Necro...</p><p>whichever one is best understood@ </p>

[Easymode]

<p>I still say melee warden,  i have one and personally i think they are the nuts! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>