Why play anything but a scout at 80?

[dellaripa]

<p>Everybody's doing it.</p><p>Scout here, scout there, scout everywhere.  Any cons to playing a scout? </p>

[Darkor]

<p>You have missed this video (which unfortunaly is no longer online).</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.eq2flames.com/inquisitors/38194-inquisitor-power-pvp.html" target="_blank">http://www.eq2flames.com/inquisitor...-power-pvp.html</a></p><p>Where an inquisitor is destroying 2 ok-to-raid-geared scouts at the same type.</p>

[Orthureon]

<p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p>

[Darkor]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p></blockquote><p>He does not have insanely good equippment. He has the stoneskin ring which drops of druushk and the repulsion ring from byzola which is a tad harder to get than the druush ring. Thats it. Everything else is good raid gear that drops from the easier TSO raid mobs with the exception of 1-2 items that drop from the harder tso mobs. So that gear is an excuse, especially when you see the equipment of the 2 scouts that fought him. Not much worse.</p>

[Necodem]

<p>Everybody's doing it.</p><p>Sk here, sk there, sk everywhere. Any cons to playing a sk?</p>

[Ahlana]

<p><cite>Darkhain@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Everybody's doing it.</p><p>Sk here, sk there, sk everywhere. Any cons to playing a sk?</p></blockquote><p>Can't Track :p</p><p>And soon SK DPS will drop esspecially in group PVP. And honestly I run across alot more Scouts than SKs. Not sure on Naggy but seems to be a slight exageration of the SK population on Venekor.</p>

[stgninja]

<p><cite>Darkhain@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Everybody's doing it.</p><p>Sk here, sk there, sk everywhere. Any cons to playing a sk?</p></blockquote><p>Con:  As a sk you can't brag about killing anyone.</p>

[Wed]

<p>Why play anything but a scout? Because many other classes are just as powerful.</p>

[Ol]

<p><cite>Wedge wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why play anything but a scout? Because many other classes are just as powerful.</p></blockquote><p>Why play anything but a scout? cause the scouts need their writ updates.</p><p>but overall scouts are to powerful, other classes are powerful too.</p>

[dellaripa]

<p><cite>Wedge wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why play anything but a scout? Because many other classes are just as powerful.</p></blockquote><p>Let me guess.  You play a scout, and last year a berserker killed you.</p>

[zorros]

<p><cite>dellaripa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Everybody's doing it.</p><p>Scout here, scout there, scout everywhere.  Any cons to playing a scout? </p></blockquote><p>I have a 80 illus 80 warlock and a 80 swash and imo the swash apart from track is by far the weakest of them for solo pvp.</p><p>Thats just my opinion though.</p>

[Zexybeast]

<p>I have 80 guardian, templar, coercer, bruiser, and swashbuckler, and the swash is by far my least favorite class to pvp with. Sure, it kills things fairly easily, but meh, I don't have a problem with scouts on any of my other toons.</p>

[Cynicisim]

<p>Hey OP, get with the program. knocking scouts and indirectly asking for a nerf was sooooo 6 months ago. The bandwagon is full of SKs now.</p>

[dellaripa]

<p><cite>kamochi wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hey OP, get with the program. knocking scouts and indirectly asking for a nerf was sooooo 6 months ago. The bandwagon is full of SKs now.</p></blockquote><p>That's the typical scout defense-Knock the knocker.</p>

[Brimestar]

<p>SKs are the flavor of the moment</p>

[Notsovileprie]

<p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p></blockquote><p>I kind of feel I don't suck personally, Here is what the deal was, Every swash attack has a stupid debuff on it, Then whenever Thorny would get low he would click his Myth w/  Purity Effect and heal to full again, Was well as the swash fearing off of the Banshee Hoop about every 5 seconds and finally, This was before displacement was nerfed and the Ring from Byzola in PvP is insanely OP and I think every knows that. Just saying...</p><p><3 Thorny, Your a beast!</p>

[Wed]

<p><cite>dellaripa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Wedge wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why play anything but a scout? Because many other classes are just as powerful.</p></blockquote><p>Let me guess.  You play a scout, and last year a berserker killed you.</p></blockquote><p>No, my main is a mage. Only scout I play is in the lower tiers.</p>

[Chaosretu]

<p>just provide everyone with a tracking device. Thats the main reason behind scouts. Its not that they're better its just they're easier. As a scout the most important thing is track. If it wasn't for that I would be any other class. I personally like the SK better but tracking is so essential, I have it up even when I dont need it haha.</p>

[Ol]

<p><cite>Chaosreturn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>just provide everyone with a tracking device. Thats the main reason behind scouts. Its not that they're better its just they're easier. As a scout the most important thing is track. If it wasn't for that I would be any other class. I personally like the SK better but tracking is so essential, I have it up even when I dont need it haha.</p></blockquote><p>tracking wouldnt be worth anything if everyone had it. there would be no use for it. there are much better things for them to fix, before they even look into something like this. i can see maybe one or two other classes having track, but not all of them. ya know, they should have used this update to fix insane pvp damage, instead of messing up the fame system</p>

[Orthureon]

<p><cite>Notsovilepriest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p></blockquote><p>I kind of feel I don't suck personally, Here is what the deal was, Every swash attack has a stupid debuff on it, Then whenever Thorny would get low he would click his Myth w/  Purity Effect and heal to full again, Was well as the swash fearing off of the Banshee Hoop about every 5 seconds and finally, This was before displacement was nerfed and the Ring from Byzola in PvP is insanely OP and I think every knows that. Just saying...</p><p><3 Thorny, Your a beast!</p></blockquote><p>Was no offense against you, I have no idea how good you are. Was just making an assumption.</p><p>Then again with that Ring of Repulsion, which is beast for PVE and PVP and a mythical just to swap out for clicky cure would be somewhat an equalizer... I gotta get me some.</p><p>Back on topic, scouts touched my bum and it hurt.</p><p><span style="font-size: xx-small; font-family: terminal,monaco;">... P.S Crusaders are OP</span></p>

[Faenril]

<p>Why play a scout ? - Because it's easy to play (button mashing wins many fights for you, provided you got the jump) - Because you have the best famewhoring tools. Being able to choose fights > being strong during the fight. EQ2 pvp is not about being the biggest fish in the sea, it's about avoiding bigger fishes while eating smaller ones <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> Why not play a scout ? Because it's really desperatly boring.</p>

[Sunfire]

<p>Can everyone do me a favor in the future and please be more specific about what they are saying.  Because most of the time what people are talking about isn't all scouts.  Unless it's just me I have never killed anyone in 3 seconds on my Troubador.  So maybe this thread should be changed to why play anything but a predator/rogue at 80?  I rolled a troubador because rogues/predators are just easy mode, but I also wanted track.  Let's just fix the problem and get rid of PC track and scouts uniteruptable evac.  I don't have a problem with evac but it shouldn't be as easy as it is for scouts to evac and as hard as it is for other classes.  Those are really the only things I would like to see changed.  Because the new fame system isn't going to screw things up.  It's one of the things this game needed to keep people from running away all the time.  Look out title huggers the day of redemption is almost upon you!!</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p><cite>Darkor@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p></blockquote><p>He does not have insanely good equippment. He has the stoneskin ring which drops of druushk and the repulsion ring from byzola which is a tad harder to get than the druush ring. Thats it. Everything else is good raid gear that drops from the easier TSO raid mobs with the exception of 1-2 items that drop from the harder tso mobs. So that gear is an excuse, especially when you see the equipment of the 2 scouts that fought him. Not much worse.</p></blockquote><p>To add to that I think Thorny is a good pvper and knows how to pvp very well, not just gear <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I remember when i was on venekor before myths he was taken out 9 people</p>

[sokil]

<p><cite>AtlantisCalz wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Darkor@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Orthureon wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Thorny is insanely well equipped, also those scouts might have been geared but probably sucked. One video example is not a good example btw. I agree scouts are EVERYWHERE, there will be a point when not many other classes are on PVP servers besides scouts, crusaders, brawlers, and brave mages.</p></blockquote><p>He does not have insanely good equippment. He has the stoneskin ring which drops of druushk and the repulsion ring from byzola which is a tad harder to get than the druush ring. Thats it. Everything else is good raid gear that drops from the easier TSO raid mobs with the exception of 1-2 items that drop from the harder tso mobs. So that gear is an excuse, especially when you see the equipment of the 2 scouts that fought him. Not much worse.</p></blockquote><p>To add to that I think Thorny is a good pvper and knows how to pvp very well, not just gear <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I remember when i was on venekor before myths he was taken out 9 people</p></blockquote><p>had some great fights with thorny on Venekor. never easy to kill and that is based on skill as well as armor. armor is nothing without skill.</p>