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Chubbylilbud

02-26-2009, 06:46 PM

Ok my head is spinning looking at all the differnet post on AA trees from Eq2 Forums and Eq2Flames.This is what i am looking for, I am a Lv 80 Zerker.I want a tree spec that will work fro Solo, Grp and Raid. 1 spec that works all 3 is this possible??if so please let me knowI am looking to Get aggro, Hold Aggro and Hurt the Mob real Bad.So please any help will be great i've been messing with my specs for months now and cant find anythig that works well.Thanks in advanceChubbylilbuddy

Xalmat

02-26-2009, 07:13 PM

<cite>Chubbylilbuddy@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want a tree spec that will work fro Solo, Grp and Raid. 1 spec that works all 3 is this possible??</blockquote>So basically you're looking for an AA spec.Try my approach, which is a variant on the standard Berserker build (it's also a good spec after GU51). It's good for all situations:Warrior:STR 4488STA 4485INT 44682Berserker:Both berserks on the far right maxedFill out Perseverance tree on the left as you wish (including Perseverance end-line), except for Vision of Madness (VoM enhance is a waste of an AA)Cyclones tree maxed (except for Open Wounds). If you have Mythical, this is optional, but either way you want Enhance: Turmoil maxed.Fill the rest of the tree as you want (I'm a fan of the clicky Berserk)TSO:General: +HP and +PowerFighter: Consummate Defender 5, Battle Hardening 5, Sneering AssaultWarrior: Rallying Cry 5, Aggressive Nature 5, Absorbing Blows 5, Cry of the WarriorBerserker: Hastened Reuse 5, 5 more in the TSO Zerker how you want (at least 1 point in Adrenaline Rush is nice to have), Wall of Force, Jeering OnslaughtPriority should go to the Warrior tree first (max it out completely before moving on), then TSO tree as it becomes available, then Berserks on the far right, then spend the rest at your discretion until more of the TSO tree is open.

Elanjar

02-26-2009, 07:59 PM

Personally I like a very nonstandard setup. Its weakest in Raid but I think it provides the most flexibility for soloing and grouping.STR 4-4-8-8STA 4-4-8WIS 4-8-8-2-2INT 4-1You lose the benefit of the final int ability but i think the final wis ability makes up for this, expecially if you dont have the perfect group everytime. It also gives you a little extra haste with that ability and the max taunt increases.For the zerker tree you want 5 points in all categories of perseverance (except vision of madness), you want max points in anything that enhances berserk and enough points to get the final "clicky" berserk. From there its personaly preference but i'm working down the dibilitations line to get get roar.in the new TSO tree its pretty easy to figure out, but basically anything that helps with hate or survivability. enhancing out CA's isnt really worth it.

Xalmat

02-26-2009, 08:11 PM

Your build is also pretty solid for PvP, since Belly Smash is much more useful in PvP than it is in PvE.

Chubbylilbud

02-26-2009, 11:35 PM

Thanks you both for the specs i am going to log in and respec and try each one i will give it a few days and see which works bette, i have a raid Friday night so that will be the testing grounds..heheBut thanks again this community is really great, ive been playing since launch, i always check the forums but really never post but with the quick response and positive feedback i may be on here more often...thanks Again<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />Chubbylilbuddy<img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />

Chubbylilbud

02-27-2009, 02:35 PM

<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=37909">Xalmat</a> - So far its working great, i need to get some more AA to finish out Berserker and TSO but what you advised me is working great in the int line however the last one u said to put 2 in but there was only room for 1 and Warrior was maxed at 70. so i had an extra aa used it in my beserker section.<a></a>GrandMasterU - Haven't tried you spec tree yet giving Xalmats a try for a few then will try out yours so thanks again.Chubbylilbuddy

Xalmat

02-27-2009, 02:51 PM

<cite>Chubbylilbuddy@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=37909">Xalmat</a> - So far its working great, i need to get some more AA to finish out Berserker and TSO but what you advised me is working great in the int line however the last one u said to put 2 in but there was only room for 1 and Warrior was maxed at 70. so i had an extra aa used it in my beserker section.</blockquote>That means you filled out the tree wrong. But do remember the INT end ability costs 2 points.

Elanjar

02-27-2009, 02:57 PM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Your build is also pretty solid for PvP, since Belly Smash is much more useful in PvP than it is in PvE.</blockquote>I find bellly smash is also extremely useful in pve content that isnt epic. which is why i said the spec would be least useful in raid settings. A lot of time pug groups dont have good debuffers and the high debuff from belly smash really makes the mobs drop faster. The final ability also removes your dependence on stat buffers if you need to roll defensive.

Chubbylilbud

03-02-2009, 05:33 PM

<a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/user/profile.m?user_id=37909">Xalmat</a> here is a copy of my Warrior AA Specs you said i filled it out wrong here look.Maxed out at 70/70, pic is from Eq2 Players which doesnt have them in the right area's as in the game

Chubbylilbud

03-02-2009, 05:35 PM

Ahh ok

Obadiah

03-02-2009, 05:36 PM

Xalmat

03-02-2009, 07:33 PM

Yes, that is correct. The pic you posted is the build that I recommended <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Chubbylilbud

03-03-2009, 04:55 PM

Ok great i just want to say thank yo for all the help on this build, seems like i go thru power now alot faster but just might be me. but thank you again for all the help in the specs i need to gain some more AA and complete the other 2 trees out . so once i have the AA i will post it here to see what ya think.Thanks AgainChubby

Axxe

03-14-2009, 03:31 AM

448-str / 448-sta / 48462-wis / 445-int FTW! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/908627bbe5e9f6a080977db8c365caff.gif" border="0" />

Hizcutie

03-18-2009, 05:49 AM

I have an 80 Troubador that I raid with, but I have started a Bezerker alt. I am currently working on the KoS tree and I know which way I am going to go from there. It is after I get 50 AAs that I am kind of lost, and yes I plan to be at that point BEFORE I hit 70. I was thinking I should probably go into to TSO tree since everything I have seen or heard about the EoF tree is not so good. Do any of the more experianced zerkers out there have any tips for where to put AAs prior to level 70 once the KoS tree has 50 AAs? Thanks in advance <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> I guess it would be helpful to know my level, # of AAs, and current spec/plan. I am level 23 with 31 AAs. I am currently specced Int 44682 str 42. I intend to go to str 448 then stam 441. The reason for this is because I figure that while leveling reuse > crit > dps mod. This will obviously change when I can start getting +melee crit gear but for now the only way for me to get crit is through AAs.

Elanjar

03-18-2009, 01:03 PM

<cite>Hizcutie wrote:</cite><blockquote>I guess it would be helpful to know my level, # of AAs, and current spec/plan. I am level 23 with 31 AAs. I am currently specced Int 44682 str 42. I intend to go to str 448 then stam 441. The reason for this is because I figure that while leveling reuse > crit > dps mod. This will obviously change when I can start getting +melee crit gear but for now the only way for me to get crit is through AAs.</blockquote>You want to get the 4-4-8 sta ASAP. 25% DA > Critspersonally while leveling I'd want 4-4-8 in STR STA and INT. but thats just me. As for the other trees I'd probablly get the innate damage reduction in the fighter portion of tso (last ability before end positional), maybe get the reduced rescue... not so important till later though.Getting the bulking line and the perserverance line in EoF tree are prettty good too so its really up to you. Not dying with unyielding will ftw anyone?

MyTFlyGuy

03-19-2009, 09:32 AM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chubbylilbuddy@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want a tree spec that will work fro Solo, Grp and Raid. 1 spec that works all 3 is this possible??</blockquote>So basically you're looking for an AA spec.Try my approach, which is a variant on the standard Berserker build (it's also a good spec after GU51). It's good for all situations:Warrior:STR 4488STA 4485INT 44682Berserker:Both berserks on the far right maxedFill out Perseverance tree on the left as you wish (including Perseverance end-line), except for Vision of Madness (VoM enhance is a waste of an AA)Cyclones tree maxed (except for Open Wounds). If you have Mythical, this is optional, but either way you want Enhance: Turmoil maxed.Fill the rest of the tree as you want (I'm a fan of the clicky Berserk)TSO:General: +HP and +PowerFighter: Consummate Defender 5, Battle Hardening 5, Sneering AssaultWarrior: Rallying Cry 5, Aggressive Nature 5, Absorbing Blows 5, Cry of the WarriorBerserker: Hastened Reuse 5, 5 more in the TSO Zerker how you want (at least 1 point in Adrenaline Rush is nice to have), Wall of Force, Jeering OnslaughtPriority should go to the Warrior tree first (max it out completely before moving on), then TSO tree as it becomes available, then Berserks on the far right, then spend the rest at your discretion until more of the TSO tree is open.</blockquote>Thank you for this .... I am working on my AA builds on my new character and so far have only gotten enough to go 4-4 in STR. This weekend I plan to do some AA achievements and this will help me in placing my points.

MyTFlyGuy

03-25-2009, 10:33 AM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chubbylilbuddy@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want a tree spec that will work fro Solo, Grp and Raid. 1 spec that works all 3 is this possible??</blockquote>So basically you're looking for an AA spec.Try my approach, which is a variant on the standard Berserker build (it's also a good spec after GU51). It's good for all situations:Warrior:STR 4488STA 4485INT 44682Berserker:Both berserks on the far right maxedFill out Perseverance tree on the left as you wish (including Perseverance end-line), except for Vision of Madness (VoM enhance is a waste of an AA)Cyclones tree maxed (except for Open Wounds). If you have Mythical, this is optional, but either way you want Enhance: Turmoil maxed.Fill the rest of the tree as you want (I'm a fan of the clicky Berserk)TSO:General: +HP and +PowerFighter: Consummate Defender 5, Battle Hardening 5, Sneering AssaultWarrior: Rallying Cry 5, Aggressive Nature 5, Absorbing Blows 5, Cry of the WarriorBerserker: Hastened Reuse 5, 5 more in the TSO Zerker how you want (at least 1 point in Adrenaline Rush is nice to have), Wall of Force, Jeering OnslaughtPriority should go to the Warrior tree first (max it out completely before moving on), then TSO tree as it becomes available, then Berserks on the far right, then spend the rest at your discretion until more of the TSO tree is open.</blockquote>Would this be the suggested route if someone is NOT raiding at all ?I was a former raider a couple years ago and just don't have the time nor desire to raid any longer , but I like alot of solo/smallgrp and normal group runs. I want to have good DPS for Solo and small group and good tanking/aggro for standard group size....I'm still really low at the moment and low AA but want to have my plans ready.... I'm currently heading down the STR then planning on hitting the STA tree.So you still recomend this same build or is there a better alternative if I'm not raiding at all ?

Xalmat

03-25-2009, 01:58 PM

<cite>MyTFlyGuy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Would this be the suggested route if someone is NOT raiding at all ?</blockquote>Yes. I don't raid at all on my Berserker, and that's the build I use.

Troyjan

03-26-2009, 01:31 AM

Here is a question for you Xalmet in regards to your build, which I do like the looks of by the way. I am currently at lvl 64 with my berserker so am capped at 50 for my warrior tree. I also just got the new expansion as I have been gone for about a year. I am looking to respec to best use my current 76 AA but not sure how I should focus them since I am stuck with a cap in the first two trees until lvl71.

Elanjar

03-27-2009, 07:24 PM

<cite>MyTFlyGuy wrote:</cite><blockquote>Would this be the suggested route if someone is NOT raiding at all ?</blockquote>Some people will suggest gettin the combat art line (forgot the name) in the berserker tree instead of the perserverance line, but i prefer the perserverance line myself.

Elanjar

03-27-2009, 07:29 PM

<cite>Troyjan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Here is a question for you Xalmet in regards to your build, which I do like the looks of by the way. I am currently at lvl 64 with my berserker so am capped at 50 for my warrior tree. I also just got the new expansion as I have been gone for about a year. I am looking to respec to best use my current 76 AA but not sure how I should focus them since I am stuck with a cap in the first two trees until lvl71.</blockquote>I'd say you've got 2 options. EitherSTR 441STA 448INT 44682orSTR 4483STA 448INT 446*you can vary the points in STR(4) to INT(3 or 4) etc...with the remaining 26 points id put them in the TSO tree 5 points in max hp, 5 points in max power, 5 points in the innate damage reduction, 5 points in rescue, end ability last 5 points in the first circle of the bulking line (berserker tree)

Tendain

03-28-2009, 06:35 PM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Chubbylilbuddy@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I want a tree spec that will work fro Solo, Grp and Raid. 1 spec that works all 3 is this possible??</blockquote>So basically you're looking for an AA spec.Try my approach, which is a variant on the standard Berserker build (it's also a good spec after GU51). It's good for all situations:Warrior:STR 4488STA 4485INT 44682Berserker:Both berserks on the far right maxedFill out Perseverance tree on the left as you wish (including Perseverance end-line), except for Vision of Madness (VoM enhance is a waste of an AA)Cyclones tree maxed (except for Open Wounds). If you have Mythical, this is optional, but either way you want Enhance: Turmoil maxed.Fill the rest of the tree as you want (I'm a fan of the clicky Berserk)TSO:General: +HP and +PowerFighter: Consummate Defender 5, Battle Hardening 5, Sneering AssaultWarrior: Rallying Cry 5, Aggressive Nature 5, Absorbing Blows 5, Cry of the WarriorBerserker: Hastened Reuse 5, 5 more in the TSO Zerker how you want (at least 1 point in Adrenaline Rush is nice to have), Wall of Force, Jeering OnslaughtPriority should go to the Warrior tree first (max it out completely before moving on), then TSO tree as it becomes available, then Berserks on the far right, then spend the rest at your discretion until more of the TSO tree is open.</blockquote>Xalmat, would you say this could work for pure tanking aswell or just as a hybrid spec?

Xalmat

03-28-2009, 06:36 PM

Pure tank for the most part. But if you're looking for full defensive, max STA4 (sacrificing points out of STR3 or STR4), and put enough points into debilitations for Gut Roar.

Tendain

03-31-2009, 03:10 PM

Is the cyclone tree worth it at all?

Obadiah

03-31-2009, 03:34 PM

<cite>Tendain wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the cyclone tree worth it at all?</blockquote>Well, you have to put those points somewhere. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" />I think I have everything except OW in Cyclones. More worthwhile since TSO came out since they changed the damage on some of those abilities.Thank goodness the Fighter changes didn't go through as they had them though.

Tendain

03-31-2009, 07:44 PM

<cite>Tendain wrote:</cite><blockquote>Is the cyclone tree worth it at all?</blockquote>Let me rephrase that between gut roar and cyclone which would be more worth it...? I plan on tanking when I am not running with guild through stuff on the account of we have Shadowknight main tank and plan on using my current "hybrid" build i guess is the term and I know i want the clicky stuff and perseverance but didnt quite know where t go next. I am only 69 at the moment, but its always good to plan ahead.