Problem with my 7600 GT 256mb

[MoiraesFate]

<p>Now, something like this used to happen on my old rig but not to the extreme that its happening now. I'd be playing and my computer would suddenly freeze for a minute or so (which sometimes got me killed) and then it would start as though nothing happened. No error messages or anything. But with my new rig its more extreme. It not only freezes, but the screen goes black, the computer spins up, then it unfreezes, I can see the image again and a message appears on my screen saying that there was an error with the graphics<a class="iAs" href="http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/showthread.php?t=218348#" target="_blank"></a> driver and it had to restart. And then everything goes back to normal until it does it again in a half hour to an hour. Honestly, its scaring me a little bit. I can't afford to replace any parts in this computer atm. It cost me enough to buy them in the first place. Thats why I haven't overclocked even though I want to. I'm trying to figure out what the problem is without having to buy a new card (I'm sure buying the new one will solve the problem). I have planned to buy a 4870 1gb in the near future but I have to pay off the credit card first before I can do it which means its going to be months. Do you have any ideas? Do you think that the hardware might be the problem? Or the driver? Its happened with at least two different drivers now so I'm inclined to say that it isn't the driver.</p><p>I've looked for a possible solution on the EQ2 board but can't find anything.</p><p>I'm scared my new rig is going to get fried by a badly behaving 7600 GT suddenly having a fit. A computer can't keep doing what this one is making it do without eventually having problems.</p>

[Darwa]

<p>Hi Moirae!</p><p>/wave</p><p>I'd say it was simply the chipset on your card being old and tired. Even silicon degrades over time, and has a 'shelf-life' so to speak.</p>

[Nulad]

<p><cite>Darwa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi Moirae!</p><p>/wave</p><p>I'd say it was simply the chipset on your card being old and tired. Even silicon degrades over time, and has a 'shelf-life' so to speak.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, let's all write off hardware with no testing whatsoever...</p><p>Open the case and check (carefully) that the fan is spinning on the card while to the computer is on.</p><p>Does it exhibit similar in any other games? If you dont play any it'd be worth downloading one of the 3d Mark benchmarking suites (free version) or some demos so you can see if it works correctly with them.</p><p>Re-install the drivers for it, probably worth an update too.</p>

[Darwa]

<p><cite>Nuladen@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Darwa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi Moirae!</p><p>/wave</p><p>I'd say it was simply the chipset on your card being old and tired. Even silicon degrades over time, and has a 'shelf-life' so to speak.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, let's all write off hardware with no testing whatsoever...</p><p>Open the case and check (carefully) that the fan is spinning on the card while to the computer is on.</p><p>Does it exhibit similar in any other games? If you dont play any it'd be worth downloading one of the 3d Mark benchmarking suites (free version) or some demos so you can see if it works correctly with them.</p><p>Re-install the drivers for it, probably worth an update too.</p></blockquote><p>There's no need to take that tone.</p><p>Moirae has this discussion going on elsewhere, and I'll say no more to the likes of you.</p>

[Nulad]

<p><cite>Darwa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Nuladen@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Darwa wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hi Moirae!</p><p>/wave</p><p>I'd say it was simply the chipset on your card being old and tired. Even silicon degrades over time, and has a 'shelf-life' so to speak.</p></blockquote><p>Yes, let's all write off hardware with no testing whatsoever...</p><p>Open the case and check (carefully) that the fan is spinning on the card while to the computer is on.</p><p>Does it exhibit similar in any other games? If you dont play any it'd be worth downloading one of the 3d Mark benchmarking suites (free version) or some demos so you can see if it works correctly with them.</p><p>Re-install the drivers for it, probably worth an update too.</p></blockquote><p>There's no need to take that tone.</p><p>Moirae has this discussion going on elsewhere, and I'll say no more to the likes of you.</p></blockquote><p>Well maybe if you had linked the other discussion I would have taken a different tone, as it stands your comment is all I had to go on and it was out of line in this context.</p>

[MoiraesFate]

<p>Whoa guys, overreacting much?</p><p>As for elsewhere, I posted it on the xtremesystems forums but no one has answered. I got a reply on the MMORPG forums where basically everyone said to just buy a new one because silicon degrades over time.</p><p>I have the newest drivers so either the drivers are crap (which I don't think they are because it would happen at other times and you'd be hearing alot of complaints on here) or its just old and slowly dying.</p><p>Thanks for your help.</p>

[Nulad]

<p><cite>MoiraesFate wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whoa guys, overreacting much?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">To people assuming hardware is broken before any testing and assuming everybody is a psychic? no.</span> </p><p>As for elsewhere, I posted it on the xtremesystems forums but no one has answered. I got a reply on the MMORPG forums where basically everyone said to just buy a new one because silicon degrades over time.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Again, until you have done some minor testing and provided additional information it's rather rash coment to have made, did you provide any further details on the other forums?</span></p><p> I have the newest drivers so either the drivers are crap (which I don't think they are because it would happen at other times and you'd be hearing alot of complaints on here) or its just old and slowly dying.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You did clear out the old ones first yes?</span></p><p>Thanks for your help.</p></blockquote>

[MoiraesFate]

<p><cite>Nuladen@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>MoiraesFate wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whoa guys, overreacting much?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">To people assuming hardware is broken before any testing and assuming everybody is a psychic? no.</span> </p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">You are being very needlessly rude.</span></p><p>As for elsewhere, I posted it on the xtremesystems forums but no one has answered. I got a reply on the MMORPG forums where basically everyone said to just buy a new one because silicon degrades over time.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Again, until you have done some minor testing and provided additional information it's rather rash coment to have made, did you provide any further details on the other forums?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Again, you are being very needlessly rude. Yes, I did. I will remember not to post any issues I have on here in the future if there are rude people like you around who are unwilling to treat someone with respect.</span></p><p> I have the newest drivers so either the drivers are crap (which I don't think they are because it would happen at other times and you'd be hearing alot of complaints on here) or its just old and slowly dying.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You did clear out the old ones first yes?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Did you miss the part where I said this was a NEW rig? As in, less than a month old. I didn't even install the OLD drivers first. I downloaded the new drivers before I even plugged in the new card. These are the only drivers its had on this rig. I hadn't updated to the new drivers on my old rig so its had this problems with two different drivers.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">I take it back, I do not thank you. Nudalen because you have been nothing but rude. In the four years that I have played this game, I've never encountered the rudeness you just showed. If you can't be respectful to those who ask questions, then don't bother answering at all. </span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Me and anyone else you have been rude to thank you for the consideration of NOT being rude to us in the future. If you can. If you can't, please go away.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Oh and incidentally, anyone who was polite to me, I've spoken to others and their suggestion is that my old graphics card simply can't keep up with the power in the rest of my new rig and to get a new graphics card. Thank YOU for your help.</span></p></blockquote></blockquote>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>Before buying a new card I would suggest running a graphics stress test like 3dmark(http://www.futuremark.com/) to see if you run into a similar issue.</p><p>I would definitely try several different driver versions before giving up on the card.  The most recent drivers aren't always the best option so uninstalling and trying some older versions may correct the issue.  I would also suggest setting down some of your performance options in game, specifically the particle effects and water animation.  If the problem still persists at that point then it might be time to look for a different graphics card.</p>

[Nulad]

<p><cite>MoiraesFate wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Nuladen@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>MoiraesFate wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Whoa guys, overreacting much?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">To people assuming hardware is broken before any testing and assuming everybody is a psychic? no.</span> </p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">You are being very needlessly rude.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">How so? I stated it was wrong to write off hardware without testing and further commented that I do not think it appropriate to assume that I or anybody else is psychic and thus know about posts on other forums that you may have made, especially when they could easily have linked it in their post.</span></p><p>As for elsewhere, I posted it on the xtremesystems forums but no one has answered. I got a reply on the MMORPG forums where basically everyone said to just buy a new one because silicon degrades over time.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Again, until you have done some minor testing and provided additional information it's rather rash coment to have made, did you provide any further details on the other forums?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Again, you are being very needlessly rude. Yes, I did. I will remember not to post any issues I have on here in the future if there are rude people like you around who are unwilling to treat someone with respect.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Again how was I rude? I simply stated that without further testing and additional information it was rash of Darwa to state that your gfx card was probably broken.</span></p><p> I have the newest drivers so either the drivers are crap (which I don't think they are because it would happen at other times and you'd be hearing alot of complaints on here) or its just old and slowly dying.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">You did clear out the old ones first yes?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Did you miss the part where I said this was a NEW rig?</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">No, I also didn't miss the part where you stated it has happened with at least two drivers, as such I asked whether you had cleaned the old ones out properly first.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">As in, less than a month old. I didn't even install the OLD drivers first. I downloaded the new drivers before I even plugged in the new card. These are the only drivers its had on this rig. I hadn't updated to the new drivers on my old rig so its had this problems with two different drivers.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Which clears up you comment about it happening on two different drivers and your assumption that I should have known that you had only used one set of drivers in your new rig, this information was not available in your opening post so how was I to know? I am not pyschic.</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">I take it back, I do not thank you. Nudalen because you have been nothing but rude.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Where and how?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;"> In the four years that I have played this game, I've never encountered the rudeness you just showed.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Where and how?</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;"> If you can't be respectful to those who ask questions, then don't bother answering at all. </span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">I beg your pardon for attempting to not only save you the cost of a new graphics card but to actually help you diagnose your issue by asking for additional information :/</span></p><p><span style="color: #00ffff;">Me and anyone else you have been rude to thank you for the consideration of NOT being rude to us in the future. If you can. If you can't, please go away.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Again, where and how?</span></p><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">Oh and incidentally, anyone who was polite to me, I've spoken to others and their suggestion is that my old graphics card simply can't keep up with the power in the rest of my new rig and to get a new graphics card. Thank YOU for your help.</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Did you give them any more information than you posted here?</span></p></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">If you seriously think I'm being rude by trying to help you and possibly save you money then that is entirely your choice, but just because I posted a snippy comment in reply to somebody who, with no more than a /wave told you to go spend money on something that may even not be necesssary doesn't make me rude. Maybe you'd like to accuse TSR-DanielH of being rude too?</span></p><p><span style="color: #99cc00;">Good luck getting it sorted.</span></p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>I'm sorry, but this thread is not serving it's intended purpose and I will be locking it to avoid further escalation.  <span >MoiraesFate, feel free to PM me if you would like any additional help with this issue.</span></p>