did wizards get a nija nerf ?

[Yourgoddess]

<p>I have noticed my dps go down around 1k-1500 dps in raids.</p><p>The assin's dps has went up about 3k dps and he hasent gotten much for upgrades.</p><p>The illusionist is now out dpsing me on most fights now. I thought enchanters where utility and not dps ?</p><p>I currently have 83% spell crit with just my own buffs. Then ill use a sathirian scroll of combat and experts elixir of second sight so i will go up to around 92%.</p><p>my spell damage mod is over 800.</p><p>I have my mythical as well.</p><p>I was doing 4500-5000+ dps now i am doing 3kis.</p><p>The warlock in the guild has gotten a lot of upgrades but his dps has droped as well.</p><p>All this has happend with the few last patches that have happend.</p><p>If we arnt going to do good dps then plz make us a utility class instead so we have something to offer.</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>I also have the shiny metallic robe.</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>I also recently got channeled cuffs of ethereal energy this is apart of the fabled tso armor set.</p>

[Mythal_EQ2]

<p>What's your raid setup like? Has it changed? Have you been dying a whole lot more? What sort of encounters are you talking about?</p><p>Honestly, with the gear you say you have you should not be going under 8k in any sort of encounter, and obviously higher in multi-mob ones.</p><p>The assassins will still have the edge on short fights (i.e. almost all trash) since they can dish out finishing moves and practically double their dps in the last 10%, but your dps should not have gone down unless your raid is slacking with debuffs or your group setup sucks.</p>

[SacDaddy420]

<p>lol at this QQ</p>

[ailees]

<p><cite>Yourgoddess wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have noticed my dps go down around 1k-1500 dps in raids.</p></blockquote><p>WHERE ?</p><p>I have more or less same equipment, I did not see any downgrade, even when we have no brigand online (and no TC on me). I must add that with the HQ equipment (gloves, robe) and TSO legendary, my DPS <strong>increased</strong>.</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>I normally do good dps but we have no troub. Most of the problem is my spells resist so dam much and they are all masters it's so dam annoying. Conj get aa that lowers resists unlike us. we do have a lot of dirges tho</p><p>My bolt of ice master i paid 200pp and it resists just as much as when it was app1</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>besides from other gear i said befour here is the rest of what i have</p><p>Elucidated manaweave hood</p><p>cloak of the sandscrawler champion</p><p>Elucidated manaweave mantle</p><p>elucidated manaweave gloves</p><p>Buckle of light and darkness</p><p>Elucidated manaweave pantaloons</p><p>Elucidated manweave slippers</p><p>Drakota fang necklace</p><p>earring of the void transfer</p><p>Talisman of the eaernauts</p><p>Burdened signet</p><p>Najena's ring of readiness</p><p>Lavagod bangle of control</p><p>Bangle of portals</p><p>Lubeshian orator's symbol</p><p>Bauble of true power</p><p>the prator's guard</p><p>Rune frosted blasting ward</p><p>Disruption 438/438</p><p>ministration 400/400</p><p>ordination 400/400</p><p>Subjugation 405/405</p><p>focus 439/439</p><p>My sorcerer lines are</p><p>Str 4/4/4/8</p><p>agi 4/4/6/8/1</p><p>wisdom 4/7/4/8/1</p><p>wizard aa's</p><p>Heat</p><p>sunstrike5</p><p>heatwave 5</p><p>exothermicity1</p><p>ball of magma 5</p><p>Magma chamber 4</p><p>ro's coil 3</p><p>surge of ro 5</p><p>Shielding magi's shielding 5</p><p>Cold line</p><p>ice spears 3</p><p>bolt of ice 5</p><p>storming tempest 1</p><p>Fission 5</p><p>electron storm 3</p><p>solar wind 1</p><p>Velium gift 5</p><p>iceshape1</p><p>Shadows line</p><p>Hearty con 5</p><p>enhaned mind 5</p><p>strike of the mage 5</p><p>masters strike5</p><p>bewilderment 1</p><p>Ice flame 5</p><p>mastery socerer 5</p><p>essence of hatred 5</p><p>critical mastery 5</p><p>thunderclap 1</p><p>Last line no aa's</p><p>Currently at 168 total</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>so are my lines or something not good ?</p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>as far as the set up go's its normally the same</p><p>Enc,warlock,dirge.inquis or fury or sometimes both then my wizzy</p><p>As far as raid encounters</p><p>Vp potao the raid instance in commanlands</p><p>and some other instances</p>

[Trilarian-2]

<p>My DPS has increased significantly with this expansion, I can't say I can replicate your problems.  So no, wizards did not get a nerf.  I would look into some of your raid members slacking on debuffs.</p>

[EQTTEQ]

<p>I notice that you use the Praetor's Guard. You might want to check parse logs to make sure it is proc'ing as much as it used to. There was talk of changing the proc, maybe it didn't make it into the update notes. This would hae happend just in the past few weeks.</p>

[ailees]

<p>Post your important stats :</p><ul><li>%faster cast (you must compute adding piece by piece)</li><li>% crit </li><li>points added to damages </li><li>% added to base damage (need to compute)</li></ul><p>I wrote mine yesterday after a nice VP raid where I got the ring and pants I wanted ... (of course without raid buff, nor food drinks)</p><ul><li>25% faster crit (and SMR)</li><li>88% crit</li><li>670 add</li><li>.. ? dammit can't read what I wrote</li></ul><p>nothing extraordinary, right ? just a very standard raiding equipment from a VP raiding guild.</p><p>As i just told you I was in VP, 2 first wings yesterday, I was 3d DPS of the raid, with around 4.2 K DPS. Noone will tell you it is a "waooo you rock" score. Some wizards here can do much more than double ... Anyway if you don't do a least 3K with such stats, there is a problem somewhere. Then post an ACT capture of the spells you cast, telling also M1/AD3.</p>

[Scythien]

<p>My dps has gone skyward as well since TSO launch. You should be doing more dps than you say.</p><p>One thing could be your casting order. There's should be a guide somewhere listing a good casting order to base yourself around (Late here in the UK, cba to look for it :p). More debuffs from your raid should help with the resists and bug your brigand for a nice early Dispatch. Maybe put more AA into Spears in your Wizard tree for more elemental. And Tempest while your at it, Tempest is nice dps when fully utilised.</p><p>You group setup could use a look at too,</p><p><span ><strong>"Enc</strong>,warlock,<strong>dirge</strong>.inquis or fury or sometimes both then my wizzy"</span></p><p>Lose the dirge and harass your raidleader for a trouba instead A.S.A.P. Dirges are best for tank/melee groups and troubs will bring so much more to a mage based group.</p><p>And is the enchanter an illusionist or does it vary?</p>

[thajo]

<p>Something is problematic in the first place.</p><p>4 - 5k dps is not good for a wizard at all in this point in the game.  In EoF average decent wizzy dps was probably 2k.  High end wizzy dps was stretching up to 3 - 4k alot more often.</p><p>In RoK, I remember raiding as a fresh lvl'd 80 with eof/RoK quest gear and being able to do 4 - 5k on a lot of trash.  By the end of RoK after grabbing all the gear I was able to maintain dps of 6 - 9k alot more often.  Decent wizzy dps was prolly ~5 - 6k with higher end wizzy dps hitting 7 - 9k. </p><p>TSO the other classes raised our dps dramatically without even needing our new TSO AA's.  Dextrous Sonata, Upbeat tempo, extra crit with bards, POM on illys etc.  First stepping into a yellow filled trash zone of singles, with my same spec I had in RoK (no new aa's yet) I was able to pull a zonewide of 10k and some extra.  As I've spec'd more AA's, raids been upgraded, and I've upgraded i've just been able to steadily raise that number.  Wizzies who've got a logical choice of gear and average guild should be atleast able to throw down a 7 - 8k zonewide on single trash i'd think.  With the higher end dps wizzies pulling 10 - 14k zonewides now on trash content.</p><p>I would look into your spell orders, make sure your hitting the spells that should be prioritized over others.  Eq2flames wizzy section debates this to death, theres alot of dps advice there.  Ideal setup you would have an illy/troub/mystic/templar and such for your groups.  Are you getting decent setups?  Are you getting atleast a bard or illy?  Answer these questions and they'll dictate whether you shoudl be seeing lower or higher dps but...what you said as low as 3k, something is majorly wrong.  We should be able to do 3 - 5k without a group or any extra buffs.</p>

[ailees]

<p>let's add another thing : it depends on the zone where you are raiding.</p><p><strong>VP</strong> for exemple is a zone where trash are highly resistant ; <strong>palace </strong>on the other hand is full of trash who does not resist : then you can do almost double average damage in that zone compared to VP.</p><p>let's take a new example :</p><p>raids tonight, </p><ul><li>chamber of destiny 8K (When we first won this, I was between 3 and 4)  raid 93K</li><li>VP 6.5 (raid 80k)</li><li>SOH 6.7 (raid 67)</li></ul><p>With your equipment, just like Dak. said, you should be around 4/5 K in instances like ice or lava with a correct group ("correct" means from your raid friends... not big guys, not "no raid" ones).  With a good group, the AE zones can take you to 7K - with TC on you and a singer.. and a good tank, if not you'll die <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Yourgoddess]

<p>I recently got a upgrade</p><p>Ghostly bangle of the loyalist and my dps has increased</p><p>Under spell status it says</p><p>Critical hit 87%</p><p>damage mod 775</p><p>Casting 14%</p><p>Reuse 12%</p><p>Recovery reduction 0%</p>

[Twinbladed]

<p><cite>Yourgoddess wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I recently got a upgrade</p><p>Ghostly bangle of the loyalist and my dps has increased</p><p>Under spell status it says</p><p>Critical hit 87%</p><p>damage mod 775</p><p>Casting 14%</p><p>Reuse 12%</p><p>Recovery reduction 0%</p></blockquote><p>I'm havin issue also an i got near 50% base increase my crit is only 59% <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. 24% casting speed,plsu temperal band 980 mod, my crit is the only thing i can think of that an procs but im still not hittin over 4k, i hit 7'8k with a troub by one toon shouldnt make that much of a differance.</p>