View Full Version : Who Gets JC'd?
liveja
02-02-2009, 11:32 AM
<p>I've just recently begun doing groups a lot more, so I'm kinda wondering how to get the best use out of JC. Usually I use it only for named mobs, because everything else dies too quickly, & I've been mostly JCing the healer ... but is JCing someone else a better idea? I've noticed people talking about JCing the tank at times, & wondered why ... just for faster re-use of taunts?</p><p>MTIA.</p>
Tinrae
02-02-2009, 02:49 PM
<p>In my guild group I've been asked to Jcap the tank before tough pulls (some special defensive skill I guess?), then our brigand for Dispatch, then whoever else....not sure if I should be doing mages then healers last or vice versa but no guildies have said who gets it last.</p><p>I know this isn't kosher for raiding, but I'm currently just a casual troubie and just doing what the group wants. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>
liveja
02-02-2009, 03:01 PM
<p>Hmmm thanx Tin, I'll ask around on Mistmoore to see what others are saying .... <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>
<p>For me i always JC the brigand first for a faster dispatch then JC myself for a faster POTM, then usually the wizz or healer depending on the fight.</p>
Inggy
02-03-2009, 11:27 AM
<p>In PuG's I only JC the Tank and myself (for potm refresh). Sometimes if we're having difficulty keeping tank up healer(s). PuG imo is not worth the effort to create macro's for but you can do the ole f2-f6 bit but most mobs die too fast.</p><p>In guild groups I already have macro's setup for members so just drag/drop them on my JC rotation hotbar. During guild runs I just work down the rotation line without really prioritizing until the more difficult fights.</p><p>Generally;</p><p>Tank for temp buffs/ToS etc.</p><p>You for PotM refresh.</p><p>Healers to help on difficult encounters.</p><p>Mage DPS if the mob is still up and the above are JC imune.</p>
<p>In groups I will JC the tank first. Then a dps class (usually a caster). Most group fights are so short that is all I really have time for. Raids are a different matter since you will usually find yourself stacked with the casters. In that case I would JC the evokers first, summoners next.</p>
Bloodba
02-04-2009, 06:37 PM
<p>Normally I JC the tank or a debuffer like, a brig or swashy, first. After them I'll start hitting the other dps classes. Im pretty much using JC nonstop the whole instance. Most of the groups I'm in chain pull stuff so every little bit helps. If your a quick player it wont really effect your dps.</p>
Jeepned2
02-24-2009, 01:14 AM
<p>Depends on the situation:</p><p>On hard raid named mobs: Defiler in MT group just before pull, MT, Me, then depends on who is in raid, normally try to hit the Warlock* (*= if he/she has been allowed to raid that night).</p><p>Trash raid mobs: Me, MT, Warlock*, Wizard*, Coercer (only cause I have a soft spot for Coercers), OT, OT defiler/mystic. </p><p>Groups: Me then first to asked, first served. </p><p>Other scouts tend for what ever reason to not ask for JC. If they don't ask, I don't bother.</p>
TumpieBrell
02-24-2009, 12:01 PM
<p>Necro's will love you for JCap. Lifeburn and Undead Hoard are on super long recast times, so it helps a lot.</p>
Jeepned2
02-24-2009, 11:55 PM
<p><cite>TumpieBrell wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Necro's will love you for JCap. Lifeburn and Undead Hoard are on super long recast times, so it helps a lot.</p></blockquote><p>Who's got a Necro in thier guild? Why?</p>
Xinoth
04-18-2009, 05:56 AM
<p>profit UI FTMFW</p><p>i dont have to switch targets to jcap anyone in the raid, and it sends them a tell when i jcap them, through the quickraidbuttons.</p><p>all other methods are obsolete. i hated having to switch targets whenever i wanted to jcap someone.</p>
Pendant
04-18-2009, 10:26 AM
<p>I don't use Jester's Cap very often. As has been pointed out already in this thread, beasties generally die too fast anyway.</p><p>I do use it on someone when I see himher comment on the fact that [insert name of crucial in that player's opinion spell here] will be unavailable for [insert refresh time here]. Usually macroed. Yet another reason why macros in group are (in this foolish bard's opinion) fruitless spam.</p><p>I did get a shock one day when I got told off rather vehemently for not telling a character that I had put Jester's Cap on himher. I've been puzzling why ever since; the toon in question was behaving as though I'd cast some kind of curse. My best guess is that it spoilt hisher button-pushing sequence.</p><p>Diff'rent strokes.</p>
Rayche
04-19-2009, 04:05 AM
<p>I find by it's nature, Jesters cap is wasted if you are just rotating it from person to person.</p><p>I use it on usually the Wizards etc..</p><p>I find it best to have people comminucate with you so you know who's using long cooldown abilities. It needs to be planned out.</p><p>If your conji is about to Plane Shift, then have them request right then. If your Mystic is about to Bolster have them ask then.</p><p>On regular Instance groups I just sprinkle it around like Tinkerbell powder and get to killin'.</p>
Kulaf
04-20-2009, 09:03 PM
<p><cite>Xinoth wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>profit UI FTMFW</p><p>i dont have to switch targets to jcap anyone in the raid, and it sends them a tell when i jcap them, through the quickraidbuttons.</p><p>all other methods are obsolete. i hated having to switch targets whenever i wanted to jcap someone.</p></blockquote><p>ProfitUI is a great tool......but I would argue that's it's not as effective as regular macro buttons are at dispensing JC when raiding, unless it is a pickup raid. What I do is I have an entire bank of macro buttons premade with all of the DPS characters in my guild. Myself and the other Troub in my guild decide who we will be responsible for and I move my 4 JC targets to my hotbar and then rotate through them for the night. Having to look where people get moved to in the raid window and then click the tiny little quickraid button just is not as fast.</p><p>IMO of course.</p>
dropdahamma
04-22-2009, 11:19 AM
<p>I JC whoever sends me a tell. Announce before raid, create a macro /tell Raganarook JC me I have a macro that casts JC on last person to send me a tell, and it announces it as a /say and /tell.</p><p>I don't try to remember who or what situation people should have it. If your a swash and its a big aoe fight, you should know that you want it. Mob has a large damage spike? Templar better be sending me a tell. If someone sends me a tell and they have immunity it just goes to the next person who sends me a tell. </p>
Mytilma
04-22-2009, 12:58 PM
I have an agreement with the other troubie in the guild. Each does his own group and then one the MT group and one the remaining. So no clashes. This of course assumes that we're neither in the same nor in the MT group, well, duh! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I have hot buttons for self and last tell target. For the rest I am using Profit UI. I don't like a static scheme, like choosing four targets and sticking with them. Some fights are tough and the MT defiler and templar like some jester love. Some fights are AE heavy, so the locks and the swashies are better candidates, or even illy, pally and SK. On ordinary trash I just cycle through the DPSers of my 2 groups, fights are short and last only 1 JC round anyway. Some people have macros to ask for JC and get it via the tell target button asap. The MT has priority here, his macro even triggers an ACT sound.
aelder~
04-24-2009, 09:49 PM
<p>Unless its a long group fight, leading with JC on the MT isn't really necessary. You'd be better off with JCing a cleric.</p><p>In general, group/raid trash you will want to JC your highest DPS sooner rather than later. In raid, I will get a pre-pull tell from templar (especially if they casting sanctuary) if they want it. If they don't need, it I may pre-pull the brigand for Dispatch. Otherwise I'll go through my group dps: Warlock, Conjuror, Illusionist, breaking for specific tells from certain classes.</p><p><edited: oops, answered different thread here also></p><p>As for certain classes that HATE the random/stealth JC, they probably have a set CA/Spell order that they have worked out and tested (perhaps even macro'd). I suspect if they get JC in middle of fight, especially without tell, you have sped up the second half of the rotation and it messed with their timing of the rotation.</p><p>With respect to JCing yourself, my JC lasts 36 and POTM 34. Including the 1.72 seconds to cast POTM, your JC has probably expired before POTM refresh starts ticking, so you are better off JCing yourself after POTM is cast, not before.</p><p>Cheers,</p><p>Aelder</p>
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