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VengeanceX
02-01-2009, 09:17 PM
<p>I had a quick question for all the other Shadow Knights that have been playing on the Test servers lately...  have any of you been able to get the hate position procs (Sacrifice) off the Grave Sacrament line to trigger?</p><p>The reason I ask is that I have yet to see a single proc from this spell in my logs.  If this is only happening to me then I would guess that I have some piece of gear that is interfering with the proc which I will need to identify.  If this is happening to all of us, then either this part of the spell is not working or there is a logging bug.</p><p>I should also clarify my understanding of the spell.  It says the there is a 33% chance when the target (listed as enemy in the spell description) is damaged that the threat priority is increased with the target.  I take this to mean that I cast the spell on the mob I am fighting and for the duration of the spell I have 33% chance to go up 1 hate position every time I hit the target with anything.</p><p>Has anyone else done some testing or have a better understanding of how the spell is intended to work?</p>

AziBam
02-02-2009, 12:18 PM
<p>Are you trying it in Offensive stance?  If so, it shouldn't be working based upon how they currently have things on test.  The threat component of all abilities has been removed when in Offensive.  It SHOULD still be working properly in Defensive stance though.   </p><p>At work right now so I don't have the spell description up  in front of me.  Pretty sure it reads that when the target takes ANY damage for the duration of the spell there is a 33% chance of the sk getting a hate position increase.  In other words, it doesn't have to be just you hitting it that can trigger the threat increase. Your groupmates can cause the proc too.  It's really quite an awesome spell.</p>

VengeanceX
02-02-2009, 08:13 PM
<p>I figured it would not proc in offensive so I have been testing mostly in defensive and sometimes with no stance.  I have been testing it solo but I figured that a 33% chance to proc is high enough that I should have seen it proc by now.  For reference Sneering Assault and Rescue display their hate postion increases for me just fine in the same testing scenario.</p>

AziBam
02-02-2009, 08:59 PM
<p>Hrm.  I'll admit I haven't checked the logs for this even on live.  I would hope it's not one of those "invisible" abilities that work but have no corresponding log text.</p>

Norrsken
02-03-2009, 07:21 PM
<p><cite>Azian@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hrm.  I'll admit I haven't checked the logs for this even on live.  I would hope it's not one of those "invisible" abilities that work but have no corresponding log text.</p></blockquote><p>Cant say I've gone digging around my logs, but I can pretyt much guaranteed say I've seen it go off on live. Pulling a ton of mobs and then having a warlock go all out and seeing mobs flipflop between him and me without no action from me seems to be sacrament.</p>

AziBam
02-05-2009, 01:35 AM
<p><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Azian@Everfrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hrm.  I'll admit I haven't checked the logs for this even on live.  I would hope it's not one of those "invisible" abilities that work but have no corresponding log text.</p></blockquote><p>Cant say I've gone digging around my logs, but I can pretyt much guaranteed say I've seen it go off on live. Pulling a ton of mobs and then having a warlock go all out and seeing mobs flipflop between him and me without no action from me seems to be sacrament.</p></blockquote><p>Oh, I definitely agree that it is working on live as things are now.  </p><p>I did some searching in my logs tonight after some pulls in Caverns where it DEFINITELY would have proc'd.  Nothing.  I'm going to guess it's similar to debuffs in that they don't have log text unless they are resisted.  This was on live btw not on test.</p>

VengeanceX
02-25-2009, 01:30 AM
<p>After reading the most recent test server patch notes, I had another go at testing this and the good news is that this spell appears to be working properly now.</p><p>Thank you to anyone in the QA and development teams who helped test and fix this.</p><p><img src="/eq2/images/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" /></p>

Callim
02-25-2009, 02:03 AM
<p>Pretty sure this has been broken since beta, I bugged it pretty often back then.  Its been nice direct hate all this time, but I don't think the positional element has ever worked on live.</p><p>Way way too many times i've hit it and not gotten agro even with 24 people smacking a raid mob for the entire duration of the spell.</p><p>/shrug</p>