Coming to live...

[Theren]

<p>Just wanting to know what exactly is coming to live, not real happy about the revamp push back b/c we all know the best testing happens on live. What is hitting live though besides the E. Day stuff? Is the Heirloom Tag for shards and other stuff going in to?</p><p>Just curious is all =P</p>

[Beghauns]

<p>I'd agree with ya on that they could leave it on test for another year and still not get the real testing done till it hit live just due to populations.  I copied my fabled guard over as soon as test copy came online and everytime i log into that server there is less then 20 people on.</p>

[Aldelbert]

<p>Not enough of a reason to log onto test for people.  They should really provide some incentive.  I'm not talking about giving away Masters and Mythicals but maybe a free LoN loot card or some Marketplace points for logging in and helping with testing.</p>

[Spyderbite]

<p><cite>Ryou@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just wanting to know what exactly is coming to live, not real happy about the revamp push back <strong>b/c we all know the best testing happens on live.</strong></p></blockquote><p>That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. People complain that stuff isn't tested enough before it's published and then cry and whine because it was released to live.</p><p>Spend more time on Test, or keep your complaints limited to post-test feedback for things that were missed. To do otherwise is like your wife asking you to help her make dinner and refusing, then telling her it tastes like crap when dinner is served.</p>

[Dasein]

<p><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ryou@Crushbone wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Just wanting to know what exactly is coming to live, not real happy about the revamp push back <strong>b/c we all know the best testing happens on live.</strong></p></blockquote><p>That is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. People complain that stuff isn't tested enough before it's published and then cry and whine because it was released to live.</p><p>Spend more time on Test, or keep your complaints limited to post-test feedback for things that were missed. To do otherwise is like your wife asking you to help her make dinner and refusing, then telling her it tastes like crap when dinner is served.</p></blockquote><p>While good and worthwhile testing can happen on the Test Server, it's still no substitute for live gameplay when it comes to finding bugs, unintended behavior and balance issues. That doesn't mean things should be rushed to live by any means, but that the scale of live, and the styles of play found there will allow for many more possibilities to be tested than a single Test server could ever allow for.</p>

[LygerT]

<p>i don't feel like logging in to play a useless game so your point of view is your own, some issues still need to be addressed on test..</p>

[Kordran]

<p><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spend more time on Test, or keep your complaints limited to post-test feedback for things that were missed. To do otherwise is like your wife asking you to help her make dinner and refusing, then telling her it tastes like crap when dinner is served.</p></blockquote><p>On the other hand, most people would agree that a dung sandwich wouldn't taste very good. They don't need to take a bite just to make sure.</p><p>Edit: While playtesting is certainly helpful to SOE, it's not a civic duty. Not surprisingly, most players actually want to play the game, not work as unpaid QA code testers. And the virtue that they've paid their $15 means they're entitled to an opinion, whether they've tested or not. It's called being a paying customer.</p><p>When you take your car in for it's scheduled service, and afterwards the transmission blows, it's unacceptable for them to say "These kinds of things should be expected. If you would have been in the garage with the mechanics and provided feedback, this wouldn't have happened." Or in the case of Paladins, you bring in your Honda CRV and they hand you back the keys to a Yugo, and insist that it really is your car.</p>

[Moralpanic]

<p><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spend more time on Test, or keep your complaints limited to post-test feedback for things that were missed.</p></blockquote><p>Wow, who made you moderator of this forum?</p><p>And why are you so bitter? Every post i've read of yours seem to be full of venom and bitterness.</p>

[feldon30]

<p><cite>Moralpanic wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Spend more time on Test, or keep your complaints limited to post-test feedback for things that were missed.</p></blockquote><p>Wow, who made you moderator of this forum?</p><p>And why are you so bitter? Every post i've read of yours seem to be full of venom and bitterness.</p></blockquote><p>Gee, his name is Spyderbite and he plays on Venekor. You already know the answer to that question. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Spyderbite]

<p><cite>Moralpanic wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Wow, who made you moderator of this forum?</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Nobody that I'm aware of. What did my reply have to do with forum moderation? I didn't suggest that the post I replied to was a breech of the ToS for the forums.</span></p><p>And why are you so bitter? Every post i've read of yours seem to be full of venom and bitterness.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Venom and bitterness?! XD</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mirth.. certainly. Entertainment.. absolutely! Personal Opinion.. 100% Humility.. on occasion. Common Sense.. as often as possible.</span></p></blockquote>

[Spyderbite]

<p><cite>feldon30 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Gee, his name is Spyderbite and he plays on Venekor. You already know the answer to that question. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Check IRC, Feldon.. /kick feldon #eq2</p><p>XD</p>