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tooloose
01-31-2009, 05:42 AM
<p>IS there no upgrade? I rarely use it, but decided to go back through my list~ no t7-8 version found...</p>

Xil
01-31-2009, 07:13 AM
<p><cite>tooloose wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IS there no upgrade? I rarely use it, but decided to go back through my list~ no t7-8 version found...</p></blockquote><p>There's not only no t7-8 upgrade for it but they won't even let us have the master version of it on PvE servers because it has slow ...  I know rediculous but they actually said that.</p><p>Sorry you can't have a master version of the spell cause it has slow.... but the ad3 has slow too... um.... yeah.....</p><p>But it's ok on PvP servers....</p>

Sabutai
01-31-2009, 12:52 PM
<p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>tooloose wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IS there no upgrade? I rarely use it, but decided to go back through my list~ no t7-8 version found...</p></blockquote><p>There's not only no t7-8 upgrade for it but they won't even let us have the master version of it on PvE servers because it has slow ...  I know rediculous but they actually said that.</p><p>Sorry you can't have a master version of the spell cause it has slow.... but the ad3 has slow too... um.... yeah.....</p><p>But it's ok on PvP servers....</p></blockquote><p>The only reason it was put in the game was for pvp.  it was not a spell line in at launch.</p>

Alienor
01-31-2009, 03:45 PM
I only use it when farming mobs < lvl 10 for L&L parts due to the short cast time... Never found another use for it <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Xil
01-31-2009, 05:16 PM
<p><cite>Alienor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I only use it when farming mobs < lvl 10 for L&L parts due to the short cast time... Never found another use for it <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote><p>It procs everything (Lich, PoM, PoTM, DisNote, Obsidian Chaos, ect... so on) and casts extremely fast.</p><p>Necro DPS depends on proc hit count.....</p><p>I'll let you figure out the rest...</p>

Alienor
02-01-2009, 08:33 AM
Never had a problem in NOT using DD even with the procs. OTOH I am not parsing and trying to squeeze out the last point of damage. As long as the mob bites the dust before me in a comfortable time, it is ok for me. Of course you can make a science out of it, ymmv.

Xil
02-01-2009, 04:35 PM
<p><cite>Alienor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Never had a problem in NOT using DD even with the procs. OTOH I am not parsing and trying to squeeze out the last point of damage. As long as the mob bites the dust before me in a comfortable time, it is ok for me. Of course you can make a science out of it, ymmv.</blockquote><p>It's one thing to not worry about the parse.  It's another entirely to not understand what is effective and what is not.</p>

Jasuo
02-01-2009, 07:19 PM
<p><cite>Alienor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Never had a problem in NOT using DD even with the procs. OTOH I am not parsing and trying to squeeze out the last point of damage. As long as the mob bites the dust before me in a comfortable time, it is ok for me. Of course you can make a science out of it, ymmv.</blockquote><p>I don't use it much either, but my normal flow doesn't really leave much room for it and I'm usually topping parses so don't feel bad.</p>

Vlahkmaak
02-19-2009, 04:10 PM
<p><cite>Sabutai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>tooloose wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>IS there no upgrade? I rarely use it, but decided to go back through my list~ no t7-8 version found...</p></blockquote><p>There's not only no t7-8 upgrade for it but they won't even let us have the master version of it on PvE servers because it has slow ...  I know rediculous but they actually said that.</p><p>Sorry you can't have a master version of the spell cause it has slow.... but the ad3 has slow too... um.... yeah.....</p><p>But it's ok on PvP servers....</p></blockquote><p>The only reason it was put in the game was for pvp.  it was not a spell line in at launch.</p></blockquote><p>I have played a necro since original eq2 beta - This spell was put into our line up well before PVP.  It is as useless in pvp as it is in PVE - its a snare with a dot that means it breaks itself.  The only reason to use it is to get an additional lich proc off when you can squeeze it into your normal DPS rotation.  Don't blame this on PVP - not our fualt.</p><p>At fanfaire this past year the devs said they would be looking into upgrading some of these spells that never got an upgrade - most classes have them.  Currently they are swamped with the fighter revamp so I doubt they will get to this one any time soon.  For this spell to be effective it needs a greater snare component and the dot remved or the %chance to break form a dot removed. </p><p>Originally the devs said they did not intend kiting to be an effective play style in eq2 however it is - I can snare kite quite effectivelly on my ranger and only slightly less effectevilly on my brigand.  Necros should be allowed this eq1 class defining ability.  If the fix it then dooming darkness would be upgraded to creeping crud following the eq1 anmesakes but not sure if they will get to it anytime soon.</p>