Tos raid zones / patterns

[forge32]

<p>Would it be possible to make these things smart loot like you did in  rok for patterns? I am really kinda annoyed i been raiding now for the last month  on a 6 day week raid schedule palace/ guk / tomb and only one guard pattern had dropped which was bracers from tomb.Yet have seen  alot of paladin / sk /zerker patterns drop. Can you plz code this in to be smart loot  drops like rok plz.</p><p>Not to mention fact that we have 1 fury of course in guild yet seen  that pattern type drop the most.Plz make this smart loot.</p><p>Btw if this is posted in the wrong section then plz just move it to where it should go becuase it is an issue that should be done like  rok  patterns had been.</p>

[Ceolus]

<p><cite>forge32 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Would it be possible to make these things smart loot like you did in  rok for patterns? I am really kinda annoyed i been raiding now for the last month  on a 6 day week raid schedule palace/ guk / tomb and only one guard pattern had dropped which was bracers from tomb.Yet have seen  alot of paladin / sk /zerker patterns drop. Can you plz code this in to be smart loot  drops like rok plz.</p><p>Not to mention fact that we have 1 fury of course in guild yet seen  that pattern type drop the most.Plz make this smart loot.</p></blockquote><p>Paladins, SKs, and Zerkers all share patterns with 3 other classes each. Are you saying everyone in your raid who shares patterns with those classes has their pattern already?</p><p>There aren't any fury-only patterns.</p><p>Just stick it out. I see the Guardian/Ranger/Warden/Warlock pattern drop all the time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p>

[victer]

<p>patterns should always be smart loot im curious why they arent... vp drops 2 per chest and they are smartloot. I dont get it.</p><p>I have yet to get 1 peice after killing the 3 first names in palace and the first names in stronghold/palace twice every week. My guild is haveing a hard time progressing past switchmaster since thier OT/MT doesnt have crit mit (our gaurd has 3 peices now so we are good with him... but what about when hes not on?).</p><p>Keep it the way it is if you want my guild to continually sell the loot rights in the public channel.... weve been makeing 150pp or so per peice so i guess thats one good thing.</p>

[forge32]

<p><cite>Ceolus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>forge32 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Would it be possible to make these things smart loot like you did in  rok for patterns? I am really kinda annoyed i been raiding now for the last month  on a 6 day week raid schedule palace/ guk / tomb and only one guard pattern had dropped which was bracers from tomb.Yet have seen  alot of paladin / sk /zerker patterns drop. Can you plz code this in to be smart loot  drops like rok plz.</p><p>Not to mention fact that we have 1 fury of course in guild yet seen  that pattern type drop the most.Plz make this smart loot.</p></blockquote><p>Paladins, SKs, and Zerkers all share patterns with 3 other classes each. Are you saying everyone in your raid who shares patterns with those classes has their pattern already?</p><p>There aren't any fury-only patterns.</p><p>Just stick it out. I see the Guardian/Ranger/Warden/Warlock pattern drop all the time <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>No what i am sayin is that the same patterns seem to drop alot ,and from what i have seen the pattern a fury shares with outhers drops the most well atleast for the guild im in it does..This really should be  set to smart loot.</p>

[Ceolus]

<p>Hmm it might be smart loot..has every person in your raid who shares patterns with the Fury gotten their pattern already?</p><p>It's just bad luck =..Paladin/Defiler/Assassin/Coercer one drops for us 3/4 times really.</p>

[Ceolus]

<p>Hmm it might be smart loot..has every person in your raid who shares patterns with the Fury gotten their pattern already?</p><p>It's just bad luck =..Paladin/Defiler/Assassin/Coercer one drops for my guild 3 out of 4 times really for some reason.</p>

[forge32]

<p><cite>Ceolus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Hmm it might be smart loot..has every person in your raid who shares patterns with the Fury gotten their pattern already?</p><p>It's just bad luck =..Paladin/Defiler/Assassin/Coercer one drops for my guild 3 out of 4 times really for some reason.</p></blockquote><p>Yes with the exception of new recruits, if was not for them we would be /del those patterns by now.</p>

[Irgun]

<p>They arent smartloot because its too early in the expansion and smartloot would gear out people too soon - its all about time sink so far. Rinse and repeat till you get yours like we did.</p>

[Ventisly]

<p>It's just an artifical way to slow down progression a bit.  6 months into the expansion the patterns will become smart loot and I wouldn't be surprised to see 2 patterns drop per chest to give up and coming guilds a chance to catch up with the guilds that were looting the whole expansion.</p>

[Avirodar]

<p>The raid zones have a 3 day lockout reset timer.Each item slot drops in 2 zones.We get 4 pieces of set gear per slot, per week (once the zones are on farm status)If the patterns were on smart loot...In 6 weeks, everyone would be equipped in their set gear.That is less than 2 months.That is exactly why the patterns are not on smart loot.Perhaps they could add something like a 25% or 33% smart loot occurance, to help guilds that are completely "S.O.L." and keep seeing the -same- patterns over and over. The random generators do not seem very random, unless it is deliberately weighted to make some patterns occur more than others.</p>

[EomerFarst]

<p>It's not smartloot because TSO is new and SoE needs something for the endgame players to do.</p><p>I don't think it was untill fairly late that VP patterns has smartloot.   Some time later this year before the next exp is they'll suddendly add smart loot to tso.</p><p>It's not that SoE doesn't know so obviously it's because they choose not to.</p>

[Aule]

<p><cite>Avirodar@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Perhaps they could add something like a 25% or 33% smart loot occurance, to help guilds that are completely "S.O.L." and keep seeing the -same- patterns over and over. The random generators do not seem very random, unless it is deliberately weighted to make some patterns occur more than others.</blockquote><p>Heh, random number generator, like a hash on a timestamp?  That's too easy.  I think it was that guy's first week out of college and he was high during that part of computer science class.</p><p>If I worked at SOE I'd create a system that uses completely non-random things like name of guild, names of players present, day of the week zone was created, and other unique things that would cause the same guilds to typically get the same drops over and over and over again.  My goal with this would be to promote cooperation and partnerships between guilds working toward mutual benefit for each other!</p><p>Oh wait, that sounds like the system we have now.  Guess I won't quit my day job.</p>