Signet of Betrayal

[Mizou]

<p>i just want to know who of u think this item needs to be changed with lu51 ?</p><p>the taunt proc cant be like this with all these aggro changes, i mean i as a swashbuckler would have not much problems with this item but maybe alot other classes who waisted alot of dkp into that now.</p><p>plz post your suggestions</p>

[Boli32]

<p>It has, and will mostly likely continue to be an item which allows you to race up the hate list very fast however to tank with such an item you have to maintain enough hate gain/dps in order to hold it; else you can bounce agro very easily with it. DPS who wore it all understood the risks of using the item when they bid dkp on it; reguardless of the changes in LU51 the risks with wearing such an item have and will always be there... tho maybe they'll understand them more now.</p>

[Craith]

<p>A Example 4 the new Signet</p><p><a href="http://www.bilder-space.de/show.php?file=25.01NgPmaXoCk69zGfK.jpg" target="_blank">Klick Me 4 Signet</a></p>

[Mizou]

<p>basically i think about a change like craithx showed - i remember this ring was online for 1 day but then some realy brainF. people said plz change it back ....</p>

[Noaani]

<p>If that ring got changed to that screenshot, it would become the single most essential item in the game for tanking.</p><p>No thanks.</p>

[Mizou]

<p>LOL</p>

[Noaani]

<p>I should rephrase, the single most essential ring in the game for tanking.</p><p>On a tank, that will proc for 10k+ between the taunt and damage, and at 2.0 procs per minute, factor in haste and proc buffs to it and you have about 40k - 50k hate per minute from this one item.</p>

[Mizou]

<p>i allready see alot of tanks running arround with this item cause the proc is too imba (damage) Oo</p><p>devs could do:</p><p>lower aggro + lower detaunt</p><p>change both like the picture</p><p>or they could just say transmute it ! we wont change</p><p>if u have other suggestions plz post - if u dont PLZ S.T.F.U</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Mizou wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>i allready see alot of tanks running arround with this item cause the proc is too imba (damage) Oo</blockquote><p>It is a great item for an offtank, and an even better one once the changes on test hit live.</p><p>It is a good item for DPS that know how to control their aggro, but is an absolutly abysmal item for a MT. If I am in a group or raid with a MT wearing this item, I will simply tell them outright to take it off. I don't care if they have nothing else to put in that slot.</p><p>The way the item is now, I WILL pull aggro off them if they wear it. A tank should never make a concious decision to lower their aggro, and that is exactly what this item does for an MT.</p><p>My suggestion for this item is to leave it as is. Much like I said about Wicked Wand of Malice; this is a powerful item but it has it drawbacks, removing those drawbacks makes it an even more powerful item - to the point where it will be overpowered if the changes in that pic were made.</p><p>They won't change the item, so this thread is pointless. Won't stop me posting in it to point out that it won't get changed though.</p>

[Kordran]

<p><cite>Mizou wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>basically i think about a change like craithx showed - i remember this ring was online for 1 day but then some realy brainF. people said plz change it back ....</p></blockquote><p>Uh, you do notice that the proc on it is called <strong>Dire Consequences</strong> right? Changing it so that the threat generated is helpful to tanks and DPS isn't exactly what I would call a "dire conseqence" for equipping the item. And neither is the damage that it does.</p>