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Aeralik
01-23-2009, 04:42 PM
<p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p>

Morrolan V
01-23-2009, 05:17 PM
<p>Any thought of putting together a raid?</p>

Kurindor_Mythecnea
01-23-2009, 05:19 PM
<p><cite>Morrolan V wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Any thought of putting together a raid?</p></blockquote><p><span style="color: #ffff00;">I think this is the intent. Well played on the new initiative for involvement, Aeralik, hopefully constructive things come of this. =</span></p>

Maroger
01-23-2009, 06:45 PM
<p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p>

BleemTeam
01-23-2009, 06:48 PM
<p>Perhaps a raid?</p>

Anordil
01-23-2009, 07:16 PM
<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.</span></strong>  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>Maroger, Aeralik answered part of this. I've added emphasis for you. I'm sure that, if you're available, you'd be welcome to attend and run a group through a non-TSO dungeon. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> If I wasn't stuck at work at that time, I'd be happy to come take part. Perhaps you could ask some others to join you and test this at lower levels.</p>

Maroger
01-23-2009, 07:21 PM
<p><cite>Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.</span></strong>  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>Maroger, Aeralik answered part of this. I've added emphasis for you. I'm sure that, if you're available, you'd be welcome to attend and run a group through a non-TSO dungeon. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> If I wasn't stuck at work at that time, I'd be happy to come take part. Perhaps you could ask some others to join you and test this at lower levels.</p></blockquote><p>ALL - does not mean that Aeralik wants ALL - you wait it will be another LEVEL 80 TSO Zone test - as that is the best for him to have his changes validated as correct. He surely does not want to find out that they don't work like he planned for lower levels in other zones. If he did he would ran a test specifically for other zones and levels - But I will check it out and see what he is doing with this "alleged test".</p>

Freliant
01-23-2009, 07:25 PM
<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.</span></strong>  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>Maroger, Aeralik answered part of this. I've added emphasis for you. I'm sure that, if you're available, you'd be welcome to attend and run a group through a non-TSO dungeon. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> If I wasn't stuck at work at that time, I'd be happy to come take part. Perhaps you could ask some others to join you and test this at lower levels.</p></blockquote><p>ALL - does not mean that Aeralik wants ALL - you wait it will be another LEVEL 80 TSO Zone test - as that is the best for him to have his changes validated as correct. He surely does not want to find out that they don't work like he planned for lower levels in other zones. If he did he would ran a test specifically for other zones and levels - But I will check it out and see what he is doing with this "alleged test".</p></blockquote><p>At lower levels, the dps of classes is laughable. I can hold agro against anyone leveling up my baby zerker. This new change is increasing my taunts and increasing the potential of other's detaunts... in my eyes that means it should be much easier at lower levels to hold agro.</p><p>However, I am gonna venture out and guess that you haven't bothered to test these changes out yourself... you, like many others, just read patch notes and make comments. Look at the feedback from the last run through and you will see that what "most" tanks are saying when they test out the changes is that they like them and that they were overdue.</p>

Tandy
01-23-2009, 08:25 PM
<p><cite>Freliant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.</span></strong>  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>Maroger, Aeralik answered part of this. I've added emphasis for you. I'm sure that, if you're available, you'd be welcome to attend and run a group through a non-TSO dungeon. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> If I wasn't stuck at work at that time, I'd be happy to come take part. Perhaps you could ask some others to join you and test this at lower levels.</p></blockquote><p>ALL - does not mean that Aeralik wants ALL - you wait it will be another LEVEL 80 TSO Zone test - as that is the best for him to have his changes validated as correct. He surely does not want to find out that they don't work like he planned for lower levels in other zones. If he did he would ran a test specifically for other zones and levels - But I will check it out and see what he is doing with this "alleged test".</p></blockquote><p>At lower levels, the dps of classes is laughable. I can hold agro against anyone leveling up my baby zerker. This new change is increasing my taunts and increasing the potential of other's detaunts... in my eyes that means it should be much easier at lower levels to hold agro.</p><p>However, I am gonna venture out and guess that you haven't bothered to test these changes out yourself... you, like many others, just read patch notes and make comments. Look at the feedback from the last run through and you will see that what "most" tanks are saying when they test out the changes is that they like them and that they were overdue.</p></blockquote><p>Dont bother...Maroger only solo's his lower level SK. And he is 100% dead set on the fact that this is a nerf to his solo playstyle. Even though almost every other SK that has played on test thinks its most assuredly NOT a nerf to solo playstyles he will not see it.</p><p>He also apparently thinks the majority of the population is sub 80 with less than 100 AA's...even though from everything I see you can get 70+ and 120 AA's in a week or two these days.  He is so sure this will destroy the game as he knows it that he is just rabid about it.</p>

Herme
01-23-2009, 11:23 PM
<p>I would personally like to see how these changes impact the avg player, the tanks with instanced gear or whatnot.  I'll gladly offer my guard and monk to test these changes, but need someone who is able to play in GMT +9 timezone to do so.</p>

Maroger
01-24-2009, 01:41 PM
<p><cite>Freliant wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Anordil@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  <strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.</span></strong>  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>Maroger, Aeralik answered part of this. I've added emphasis for you. I'm sure that, if you're available, you'd be welcome to attend and run a group through a non-TSO dungeon. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> If I wasn't stuck at work at that time, I'd be happy to come take part. Perhaps you could ask some others to join you and test this at lower levels.</p></blockquote><p>ALL - does not mean that Aeralik wants ALL - you wait it will be another LEVEL 80 TSO Zone test - as that is the best for him to have his changes validated as correct. He surely does not want to find out that they don't work like he planned for lower levels in other zones. If he did he would ran a test specifically for other zones and levels - But I will check it out and see what he is doing with this "alleged test".</p></blockquote><p>At lower levels, the dps of classes is laughable. I can hold agro against anyone leveling up my baby zerker. This new change is increasing my taunts and increasing the potential of other's detaunts... in my eyes that means it should be much easier at lower levels to hold agro.</p><p>However, I am gonna venture out and guess that you haven't bothered to test these changes out yourself... you, like many others, just read patch notes and make comments. Look at the feedback from the last run through and you will see that what "most" tanks are saying when they test out the changes is that they like them and that they were overdue.</p></blockquote><p>I have copied the character over the test and have played with his game wrecking changes and can verify that my DPS is lower in offensive stance and I am taking more damage.  The buffs are merged in at damage and healing numbers which are about 2 level slower than they are as stand alone buff. That is nerf no matter how you want to slice it.</p>

liveja
01-24-2009, 01:51 PM
<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have copied the character over the test and have played with his game wrecking changes and can verify that my DPS is lower in offensive stance and I am taking more damage.  The buffs are merged in at damage and healing numbers which are about 2 level slower than they are as stand alone buff. That is nerf no matter how you want to slice it.</p></blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, what level is your SK? How many AAs do you have, & what kind of gear?</p><p>You could, of course, just tell me who your character is & what server you play on, & I can look him up from there.</p>

Maroger
01-24-2009, 07:59 PM
<p><cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I have copied the character over the test and have played with his game wrecking changes and can verify that my DPS is lower in offensive stance and I am taking more damage.  The buffs are merged in at damage and healing numbers which are about 2 level slower than they are as stand alone buff. That is nerf no matter how you want to slice it.</p></blockquote><p>Out of curiosity, what level is your SK? How many AAs do you have, & what kind of gear?</p><p>You could, of course, just tell me who your character is & what server you play on, & I can look him up from there.</p></blockquote><p>I am currently Level 70 and I have only 78 AA's - so I need to do grey quests to get more AAs. I need AAs with these horrible Nerfs coming and losing two buff spells.</p><p>My spells ( or at least the ones I use) or either Master I or Adept III - the spells that can only be cast on other I leave at APprentice I since I only solo. He is a level 80 Armorer.</p><p>My gear is a combination of Mastercrafter, and Legendary with one or two fabled pieces.</p>

Herme
01-24-2009, 08:10 PM
<p>At 70 there are tons, and I mean absolutely tons of even lvl quests you can do to get AA, and if you were so worried about getting AA while lvling you would have a lot mroe than 78.  I practically solo'ed my monk up through the lvls and by 70 he had 106 AA.  Only having 78 AA at 70 means your were either A)  Power leveling, or B) grinding mobs without working quests.  Either of which isn't a normal solo playstyle.  Of course you could have started this char before KoS and before AA was introduced, but even then even if you only completed 1 quest a day since KoS was launched, you would still have more AA.</p><p>I'm throwing out the BS flag, not saying everything you are saying is untruthful, but you are hiding something in there.  It just doesn't add up IMO.</p>

Maroger
01-24-2009, 08:21 PM
<p><cite>Strayslayer@Butcherblock wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>At 70 there are tons, and I mean absolutely tons of even lvl quests you can do to get AA, and if you were so worried about getting AA while lvling you would have a lot mroe than 78.  I practically solo'ed my monk up through the lvls and by 70 he had 106 AA.  Only having 78 AA at 70 means your were either A)  Power leveling, or B) grinding mobs without working quests.  Either of which isn't a normal solo playstyle.  Of course you could have started this char before KoS and before AA was introduced, but even then even if you only completed 1 quest a day since KoS was launched, you would still have more AA.</p><p>I'm throwing out the BS flag, not saying everything you are saying is untruthful, but you are hiding something in there.  It just doesn't add up IMO.</p></blockquote><p>I started this character 4 years ago. And for a while when they first introduced AA's  there was just the 1 AA tree and I forget what level you had to be to even use AA's. It is only recently that AA's got easier to get. I have done a fair amount of quests ( I never grind mobs) but you didn't use to get AA's for quests when I started. And I don't just play this character I have a Coercer and a Necro -- the Coercer has a few more AA's than the SK. So some time weeks go by and I don't play him  I play my others.</p><p>I do all the quest even when they go grey so a lot of quest I never got AA's for - I am in no big rush to be level 80--but with the Aeralik Nerf's coming I need to get AA.</p><p>He is an 80 Armorer so I spend time Tradskilling also.</p>

Moonlance
01-25-2009, 04:38 AM
<p>Don't do the easy quick zones, do the harder zones like Guk if you want to see what tanks have to do to survive against an avalanche of mobs.   Do YOS, one healer, one mezer and see how each of the tank classes perform against the first two ring events.</p>

Junaru
01-26-2009, 12:43 PM
<p><cite>Scayre@Oasis wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Don't do the easy quick zones, do the harder zones like Guk if you want to see what tanks have to do to survive against an avalanche of mobs.   Do YOS, one healer, one mezer and see how each of the tank classes perform against the first two ring events.</p></blockquote><p>I agree. I want to see how my Monk stands up to Outer Stronghold mobs. I want to see how he can hold aggro on orange con mobs. I can tell you before I had issues with this zone because in defencive stance I can't hold aggro and in offencive stance I take too much damage. I'd like to see (as well as have data logged) how the changed on test effect that.</p>

demonwr
01-26-2009, 03:47 PM
<p>I'll be there with my nicly geared 80 raid zerk would love to MT a raid if we can toss one together. Maybe do some testing on palace trash mobs atleast.</p>

Rijacki
01-26-2009, 06:11 PM
<p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure if there are groups, duos, or even solos of whatever level they will be more than welcome to be online during the target time for the extra scrutiny of the playtest.  You don't even need Aeralik to form your group for you or to start you off in a particular location at a particular time. I'm sure he didn't form each group of the previous playtest either.</p><p>I sincerely doubt that if someone logs in to the server who isn't level 80 with 140+ achievements and fully fabled they'll be told to log off immediately since they're data won't be counted or reviewed.</p>

Yimway
01-26-2009, 07:24 PM
<p>Meh, need an hour later start time.</p>

Ceolus
01-27-2009, 12:57 AM
<p>If I have never transfered a char to test server, will I be able to have my character transferred in time for the playtest tomorrow? As in, is there a transfer queue or can I transfer my character, manually, immediately</p><p>Would try it myself but won't be at my EQ2 computer until tomorrow.</p>

Wolphin
01-27-2009, 01:27 AM
<p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure if there are groups, duos, or even solos of whatever level they will be more than welcome to be online during the target time for the extra scrutiny of the playtest.  You don't even need Aeralik to form your group for you or to start you off in a particular location at a particular time. I'm sure he didn't form each group of the previous playtest either.</p><p><strong>I sincerely doubt that if someone logs in to the server who isn't level 80 with 140+ achievements and fully fabled they'll be told to log off immediately since they're data won't be counted or reviewed.</strong></p></blockquote><p>maybe wont be told to log off, but their data not being counted I can see...</p><p>and their data or experiences sure won't be listened to here, especially from the people that post on the forums.. just in this topic alone, it's been pretty much said by some that unless you are raid geared and doing a tso hard zone it doesn't count... or the folks talking about how it only takes 2 weeks to level up a character.... that is a small % of the population but it still seems to get balanced around them  and letting the folks who arent sprinting to the end or raiding hurting.... not to mention the constant belittlement of anyone who isn't 80 or raid geared or have alot of AAs, they are told to level up and see what it's like in the end game.. well maybe they don't want to play in the end game or have their playstyles messed up because a few raiders want their class to always top the parse or want another class nerfed because they are ahead of them... the same thing happened in eq1, the top 2% of a class was overpowered and in their attempt to bring that top 2% down so they wouldn't be overpowered in raids, they messed up the class for the lower levels, the top 2% was still pretty good, but anyone else suffered because they werent' raiders and didn't play all the time...</p>

schizolic
01-27-2009, 11:10 AM
<p>shame i have to work</p>

theriatis
01-27-2009, 11:23 AM
<p>Hm, 3pm pacific was like 11pm CET, right ?</p>

Maroger
01-27-2009, 11:34 AM
<p><cite>Wolphin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Rijacki wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Maroger wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Aeralik wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We had almost 50 people for the last playtest so hopefully we can get another 50 or more players for this one.  So on Tuesday the 27th at 3pm pacific or 6pm eastern we will be having another playtest.  All are welcome to join in the fun including healers and dps classes.  We will try and get another few groups to run through some of the quicker zones to see how the latest changes are working out.  Thanks in advance to all those who show up and have been testing on their own.</p></blockquote><p>Will this be only for level 80 and in the TSO zones or do you plan to include other levels and zones so that you have a balanced picture of your changes.</p></blockquote><p>I'm sure if there are groups, duos, or even solos of whatever level they will be more than welcome to be online during the target time for the extra scrutiny of the playtest.  You don't even need Aeralik to form your group for you or to start you off in a particular location at a particular time. I'm sure he didn't form each group of the previous playtest either.</p><p><strong>I sincerely doubt that if someone logs in to the server who isn't level 80 with 140+ achievements and fully fabled they'll be told to log off immediately since they're data won't be counted or reviewed.</strong></p></blockquote><p>maybe wont be told to log off, but their data not being counted I can see...</p><p>and their data or experiences sure won't be listened to here, especially from the people that post on the forums.. just in this topic alone, it's been pretty much said by some that unless you are raid geared and doing a tso hard zone it doesn't count... or the folks talking about how it only takes 2 weeks to level up a character.... that is a small % of the population but it still seems to get balanced around them  and letting the folks who arent sprinting to the end or raiding hurting.... not to mention the constant belittlement of anyone who isn't 80 or raid geared or have alot of AAs, they are told to level up and see what it's like in the end game.. well maybe they don't want to play in the end game or have their playstyles messed up because a few raiders want their class to always top the parse or want another class nerfed because they are ahead of them... the same thing happened in eq1, the top 2% of a class was overpowered and in their attempt to bring that top 2% down so they wouldn't be overpowered in raids, they messed up the class for the lower levels, the top 2% was still pretty good, but anyone else suffered because they werent' raiders and didn't play all the time...</p></blockquote><p>Too true - The test is being rigged to get the results Aeralik wants for this raid-geared Level 80s in TSO. SOE has always given undue attention to raiding and it always ends up hurting their games in the long run. They are trying to fix EQ1 now by adding mercenaries. You would think they would learn from their past mistakes.</p>

liveja
01-27-2009, 11:42 AM
<p><cite>Wolphin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>just in this topic alone, it's been pretty much said by some that unless you are raid geared and doing a tso hard zone it doesn't count</p></blockquote><p>Actually, in this topic, there's only been ONE person saying that ... & that one person is Maroger, who is claiming the tests are invalid for that reason.</p><p>IOW, it's not a reason, since it's only being supported by the only person saying it.</p><p>I don't know about SKs, but I can tell you that my Test Server Bruiser -- 23rd level -- is not having any troubles soloing, nor do I expect the character to. I'll sit back now & wait for someone to tell me this is irrelevant, because it's so easy to solo at 23, so I should "get to 70 before you talk!!!!"</p><p>Irony incoming in 5 ... 4 .... 3 .... 2 .....</p>

Mizou
01-27-2009, 12:08 PM
<p>hmpf im sry but i have to ask <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> since im not a time calculation pro</p><p>what is this for a german time - 1am ?</p>

Rijacki
01-27-2009, 12:13 PM
<p><cite>Mizou wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>hmpf im sry but i have to ask <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> since im not a time calculation pro</p><p>what is this for a german time - 1am ?</p></blockquote><p>15 (3pm) - 8 (CA is UTC -<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> = 7am, I think.</p><p>or is it 15 + 8 = ...</p><p>wait wait... when I was in Germany I would watch the CA broadcast of the Today Show (AFN) at 5pm which was 8am CA time. so.. 800 to 1700 is ....  okay, I'm lost again.</p><p>it's 7:13am in CA as I am typing this...</p><p>Would <a href="http://www.google.com/ig/adde?moduleurl=www.matt.org/modules/DashboardClockWorld.xml&source=wcha" target="_blank">this</a> help? (Google World Clock)</p>

Mizou
01-27-2009, 12:32 PM
<p>6pm eastern +6 should be 0am germany... oh my god  - i will try to be there</p>

CrazyHandsMatt
01-27-2009, 12:44 PM
<p>PST is GMT-8, so 3pm PST is 11pm GMT so it will be midnight for Germany.</p>

Mizou
01-27-2009, 12:53 PM
<p>thanks - i think this would work i will be there maybe a few other guildies with me</p>

Ceolus
01-27-2009, 01:48 PM
<p>If I /testcopy add my PvP character, will I be able to participate in the playtest? Not sure if it will transfer to the right test server...</p><p>Also, if so, do I just access the playtest via the "Test" button on the top of my launch pad?</p>

Rijacki
01-27-2009, 01:55 PM
<p><cite>Ceolus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If I /testcopy add my PvP character, will I be able to participate in the playtest? Not sure if it will transfer to the right test server...</p><p>Also, if so, do I just access the playtest via the "Test" button on the top of my launch pad?</p></blockquote><p>Only one server for /testcopy add. So, you will be on the right server from PvE or PvP servers.</p><p>Yes, the Test button, but it will need to patch a bit.</p>

Ceolus
01-27-2009, 01:57 PM
<p>Very cool, thanks for the reply.</p><p>How long does it take to get a character copied over?</p>

Rijacki
01-27-2009, 06:11 PM
<p><cite>Ceolus wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Very cool, thanks for the reply.</p><p>How long does it take to get a character copied over?</p></blockquote><p>Usually overnight, unless there is some issue. It's automated.</p>

Ceolus
01-27-2009, 06:36 PM
<p>[Removed for Content]....</p>

rogleete
01-27-2009, 08:54 PM
<p>Test group taken out of about 25 people standing there was</p><p>Swash / Warlock / Asassin / Monk / Warden / Guardian</p><p>there was a dirge LFG to test changes and this is the group that was chosen. 2 ST tanks in one group, 2 AE dps, and NO bards or chanters. GL getting accurate test data with that setup.</p>

Mizou
01-27-2009, 09:00 PM
<p>group was:</p><p>Berserker / Monk / Coercer / swashbuckler (me) / and mystic</p><p>tested a few things without coercer hate / link - once my spurious bravado proced i was near 90 or even got aggro (5% hategain with 69 haste proc)</p><p>once tank had aggro buff and link there was nearly no problem but think about groups without buffers (there are sometimes some) - well i am the new tank then ?</p><p>im currently not at home i send the log to my home pc and will see what i can get out of that deep forge run</p><p>gn8</p>

Mizou
01-27-2009, 09:03 PM
<p>UPS</p>

Aeralik
01-27-2009, 09:23 PM
<p>Thanks to everyone who came out to test today!</p>