Is Crain Twril going to see 40% like all the other tanks

[Tilda]

<p>It went from 16% to 24% when all the other tanks get 40% why are brawlers not getting 40% ?</p>

[ShinGoku]

<p>We have all been asking this for ages now to no avail, mebbe the devs are feeling generous seeing as its friday?</p>

[Elanjar]

<p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p>

[Morrolan V]

<p>/sarcasm on</p><p>Why? Because of how much we currently pwn similarly geared, buffed and spec'ed SKs/Zerkers on single targets?</p><p>/sarcasm off</p><p>It is not so.  If you want to make brawlers the single target DPS fighter, then you need to buff our single target DPS by a considerable amount.</p>

[Junaru]

<p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah lord know the "DPS tank" should never beat a zerk right? BTW how much DA do you get from AA's? How about MC? Oh and AoE auto attack? Yeah you are right keep the DPS tank down a little while longer. One last thing. What damage table are you on? Oh wait I remember, the same one at the BRAWLERS.</p><p>How your plate armor doesn't rust from all the crying you are doing.</p>

[Elanjar]

<p>Um I parse pretty well for a zerker of my gear level and a bruiser with marginally better gear regularly outparses me by 1.5-2.5k ish. If im in offensive. On AoE stuff we usually tie.</p>

[Junaru]

<p><cite>Morrolan V wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>It is not so.  If you want to make brawlers the single target DPS fighter, then you need to buff our single target DPS by a considerable amount.</p></blockquote><p>"Brawlers" are NOT single target DPS, MONKS are. And so are Guardians (40% AoE) and Pally's (40% AoE). Sorry there is no logical reason other then the devs not seeing a problem why Brawlers should NOT have the same as EVERY OTHER FIGHTER.</p>

[Elanjar]

<p><cite>Junaru wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah lord know the "DPS tank" should never beat a zerk right? BTW how much DA do you get from AA's? How about MC? Oh and AoE auto attack? Yeah you are right keep the DPS tank down a little while longer. One last thing. What damage table are you on? Oh wait I remember, the same one at the BRAWLERS.</p><p>How your plate armor doesn't rust from all the crying you are doing.</p></blockquote><p>Its comments like this that make me hate brawlers...</p>

[Junaru]

<p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Junaru wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah lord know the "DPS tank" should never beat a zerk right? BTW how much DA do you get from AA's? How about MC? Oh and AoE auto attack? Yeah you are right keep the DPS tank down a little while longer. One last thing. What damage table are you on? Oh wait I remember, the same one at the BRAWLERS.</p><p>How your plate armor doesn't rust from all the crying you are doing.</p></blockquote><p>Its comments like this that make me hate brawlers...</p></blockquote><p>Well we have been hated on for years so it's not a big deal.</p><p>maybe you could justify why every fighter has 40% except Brawlers? We are on the same damage tables. You gain more MC and DA from AA's. So give me one reason?</p>

[Elanjar]

<p><cite>Junaru wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah lord know the "DPS tank" should never beat a zerk right? BTW how much DA do you get from AA's? How about MC? Oh and AoE auto attack? Yeah you are right keep the DPS tank down a little while longer. One last thing. What damage table are you on? Oh wait I remember, the same one at the BRAWLERS.</p><p>How your plate armor doesn't rust from all the crying you are doing.</p></blockquote><p>Um I believe you have the option to get almost 100% DA? Its not my fault you dont spec that way. As a zerker I dont spec for full time 40% ae and instead have to save my ae skills and space them out (not the easiest thing in the world to do), but I dont complain. I would say the reason your AA's give you less MC is because you get better stats (on average from what i've seen, i dont claim to be all knowledgeable) on your gear.</p>

[Junaru]

<p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Junaru wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Elanjar@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>You do realize that if you had 40% aoe like the rest of us your ST dps would have to be reduced so that your AoE dps didnt become overly powerful...</p></blockquote><p>Yeah lord know the "DPS tank" should never beat a zerk right? BTW how much DA do you get from AA's? How about MC? Oh and AoE auto attack? Yeah you are right keep the DPS tank down a little while longer. One last thing. What damage table are you on? Oh wait I remember, the same one at the BRAWLERS.</p><p>How your plate armor doesn't rust from all the crying you are doing.</p></blockquote><p>Um I believe you have the option to get almost 100% DA? Its not my fault you dont spec that way. As a zerker I dont spec for full time 40% ae and instead have to save my ae skills and space them out (not the easiest thing in the world to do), but I dont complain. I would say the reason your AA's give you less MC is because you get better stats (on average from what i've seen, i dont claim to be all knowledgeable) on your gear.</p></blockquote><p>Yeah not sure where you heard that but it's wrong.</p><p>And in case you didn't notice we all have to spec one way or the other. I have to give up stuff to get others. Still haven't given a reason why Brawlers are the only fighter who doesn't get 40% AoE.</p>

[Morrolan V]

<p>100% DA?  ROFL</p><p>Before TSO, the only way for us to get ANY DA was to use no weapons.</p><p>TSO, they removed the weapon restriction, but gave us less DA than other fighters.</p>

[VALKOR]

<p>I believe he is thinking of Crane Flock which has a temporary 100% DA usable once every 3 minutes or so.  Crane Twirl doesn't have the frontal limitation or the max of 4 targets that some of the other fighter abilties have for the autoattack multiple targets, but I can certainly understand brawlers preferring the enemies in front limitation and max of 4 in exchange for a 40% instead of 24% proc chance.</p>

[mr23sgte]

<p>Why would Crane twirl be the same? Crit and DA are not the same either ..................</p>

[Kiara]

<p>Hello!</p><p>There's already a thread about this <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  Can we please keep all the feedback in one place?  Thanks!</p><p><span ><a href="list.m?topic_id=440491">Brawler Change - Crane Twirl</a> </span> <span > </span></p>