Mystics

[Aarodorn]

<p> ok, here is a Noob question but I am really not sure on this</p><p>Im a 80 mystic but my heals arent that good at all.</p><p> What type of gear should I get  for better heals and  stuff?</p><p>Should I get stuff with heal crit? or with +45 heals, etc.. ?</p><p>I went down the Wiz line and str on first tree, I know wiz is best for mystics but my heals kinda suck according to parse</p>

[Banditman]

<p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=441614" target="_blank">This thread</a> runs down my raid / group setup, it seems pretty effective to me.</p><p>Mystics are not good healers in the truest sense of the word.  We are however superior Warders.  Your Mystic should never be allowing your tank to take damage in the first place in most non-epic circumstances.</p><p>If you are waiting until your tank is damaged to start doing your job, you aren't doing your job.  Mystics are pro-active.  We work our best beforehand.  We do not "catch up" well at all.  This is one of the reasons we grumble when tanks ask us not to pre-Ward.  That tank is asking us to do our job in a  manner inconsistent with our class strengths.</p>

[Griffildur]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=441614" target="_blank">This thread</a> runs down my raid / group setup, it seems pretty effective to me.</p><p>Mystics are not good healers in the truest sense of the word.  We are however superior Warders.  Your Mystic should never be allowing your tank to take damage in the first place in most non-epic circumstances.</p><p>If you are waiting until your tank is damaged to start doing your job, you aren't doing your job.  Mystics are pro-active.  We work our best beforehand.  We do not "catch up" well at all.  This is one of the reasons we grumble when tanks ask us not to pre-Ward.  That tank is asking us to do our job in a  manner inconsistent with our class strengths.</p></blockquote><p>I've seen tanks that ask to not preward and all I can say is that they have no clue.</p><p>It's probably because our single ward ( I bet it's the same for mystics ) will draw aggro onto us and if the if it's a multi mob encounter the second one mob triggers the ward on tank, the others will come straight for you.</p><p>All the tank has to do is get aggro back, however some can't deal with more than 1 mob at a time, so instead of learning how to tank they ask everyone to lower to their low lvl.</p><p>When you see a tank lke this do 3 things ... 1. /ignore 2. /leavegroup 3. never ever group with them again.</p>

[Banadux]

<p><cite>Mrrshan@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=441614" target="_blank">This thread</a> runs down my raid / group setup, it seems pretty effective to me.</p><p>Mystics are not good healers in the truest sense of the word.  We are however superior Warders.  Your Mystic should never be allowing your tank to take damage in the first place in most non-epic circumstances.</p><p>If you are waiting until your tank is damaged to start doing your job, you aren't doing your job.  Mystics are pro-active.  We work our best beforehand.  We do not "catch up" well at all.  This is one of the reasons we grumble when tanks ask us not to pre-Ward.  That tank is asking us to do our job in a  manner inconsistent with our class strengths.</p></blockquote><p>I've seen tanks that ask to not preward and all I can say is that they have no clue.</p><p>It's probably because our single ward ( I bet it's the same for mystics ) will draw aggro onto us and if the if it's a multi mob encounter the second one mob triggers the ward on tank, the others will come straight for you.</p><p>All the tank has to do is get aggro back, however some can't deal with more than 1 mob at a time, so instead of learning how to tank they ask everyone to lower to their low lvl.</p><p>When you see a tank lke this do 3 things ... 1. /ignore 2. /leavegroup 3. never ever group with them again.</p></blockquote><p>It sounds harsh, but I have to agree.</p>

[Miss_Jackie]

<p>I've had a couple that have said not to ward, but for the most part.. majority of tanks I've grouped with haven't complained. It's annoying when they do ask to stop warding.. it's like they're asking me not to do my healing job. <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Gisallo]

<p>There is only one time that I don't mind a tank saying "no ward" and also sometimes request it on my zerker.  Sometimes you are doing a tight body pull that has the possibility of going REAL bad and the pull is long before you can do something that won't social other mobs.  I would rather pop Adrenaline prior to the pull and hope that sucks up enough damage for the mystic to then have the time to throw up his wards.  Part of being a tank is being able to make take damage and give the healer time to do his job. </p><p>If I don't do this then half the time some dpser usually panics and now not only is it a manner of intercept on the healer but having to run in another direction to get something off of the dpser wither the itchy trigger finger.</p><p>This is like MAYBE 5% of encounters though (if that).  Just wanted to put it out there. </p>

[Aarodorn]

<p>true,</p><p>I mean  I,ve never even tried to keep heals up with a warden or fury ( not even gonna try hehe)</p><p>but it did seem weak  abit. </p><p>The prewarding does work well.</p><p>I've had a few tanks say dont pre ward either, but its easy to fix this.</p><p>I just use my instant ward right after the tanks pull and agro.</p><p>the instant ward isnt as strong as the regulars but its a goodstart, this way your not fighting your way back trying to fix things.</p><p>Ive just started getting my TSO T1 gear, So the things to lookout for there are  heal crit and benef. increase on speed or am I wrong?</p>

[Thunderthyze]

<p><cite>Qeynosus@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> ok, here is a Noob question but I am really not sure on this</p><p>Im a 80 mystic but my heals arent that good at all.</p><p> What type of gear should I get  for better heals and  stuff?</p><p>Should I get stuff with heal crit? or with +45 heals, etc.. ?</p><p>I went down the Wiz line and str on first tree, I know wiz is best for mystics but my heals kinda suck according to parse</p></blockquote><p>Unlike clerics and druids mystics benefit more from +heal gear than heal crit. That said once you cap out your to heal heal crit is the way to go. Of course this isn't to say you should avoid heal crit gear it's just that if you have a choice of more or less equal gear then go for the +heal stuff first. If you're raiding you should also factor in power regen as a must have too.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>My Mystic (not currently my main) sits at about 70% Crit with about 900 to +Heal.</p><p>The only raid gear he has is his Mythical Epic.  Yes, that makes a huge difference to getting your +Heal up, but nevertheless, it's very possible to get exceptional numbers for +Heal and +Crit without being in a raiding guild.</p>

[Eugam]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=441614" target="_blank">This thread</a> runs down my raid / group setup, it seems pretty effective to me.</p><p>Mystics are not good healers in the truest sense of the word. We are however superior Warders. Your Mystic should never be allowing your tank to take damage in the first place in most non-epic circumstances.</p></blockquote><p>Oh yeah ? Well, the shaman are the only warders. A master 1 single ward plus a adept III group ward is just enough to catch a single crit hit from a heroic named. Reuse timer then is still down. The group took AE damage and the group direct heal takes ages to go off.</p><p>My mystic plays horrible tbh. The warden gained most from TSO. The templer seems to be uber, but the mystic.. nah. Not really. I am rather low on AA because i took the warden first through the Moors. Lets see how he is with more AA and a few pieces shard armor. But at the moment he plays soooo sloooowwwww against hard hitting nameds and the wards seem to be 25% to low.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>Kindred Restoration has an acknowledged and (in GU51) fixed but whereby if you are casting when Kindred Restoration is supposed to trigger, it simply doesn't go off at all.  This will, in the future, help against AE damage.</p><p>However, saying that you are unable to effectively heal a tank is pretty much an admission that you are doing something wrong.  Shaman (Mystics *and* Defilers), are easily at the top of any heal parse, be it group or raid.  If you aren't, again, you are doing something wrong.</p><p>The only zone group zone in the game I haven't been able to solo heal is Palace of Ferzhul, and even that one may now be possible with the healing stance.  I just haven't had an opportunity to try.</p><p>There is nothing grossly broken with the class.  There are certainly some things I'd like to see addressed, but we are far from broken.</p>

[Soefje]

<p><cite>Banadux wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mrrshan@Runnyeye wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=441614" target="_blank">This thread</a> runs down my raid / group setup, it seems pretty effective to me.</p><p>Mystics are not good healers in the truest sense of the word.  We are however superior Warders.  Your Mystic should never be allowing your tank to take damage in the first place in most non-epic circumstances.</p><p>If you are waiting until your tank is damaged to start doing your job, you aren't doing your job.  Mystics are pro-active.  We work our best beforehand.  We do not "catch up" well at all.  This is one of the reasons we grumble when tanks ask us not to pre-Ward.  That tank is asking us to do our job in a  manner inconsistent with our class strengths.</p></blockquote><p>I've seen tanks that ask to not preward and all I can say is that they have no clue.</p><p>It's probably because our single ward ( I bet it's the same for mystics ) will draw aggro onto us and if the if it's a multi mob encounter the second one mob triggers the ward on tank, the others will come straight for you.</p><p>All the tank has to do is get aggro back, however some can't deal with more than 1 mob at a time, so instead of learning how to tank they ask everyone to lower to their low lvl.</p><p>When you see a tank lke this do 3 things ... 1. /ignore 2. /leavegroup 3. never ever group with them again.</p></blockquote><p>It sounds harsh, but I have to agree.</p></blockquote><p>I all depends on the ward.  If the ward is feeding damage back to the mob, then the damage can pull a whole room if there is social aggro.  I don't have the problem with most healing wards, but things like thornskin etc will sometimes pull a room.  Especially if the mob stops to cast something right after the body pull.  I have had my lifetap do the same thing on my SK.  The mob casts a ranged spell, the lifetap causes damage and the social aggro kicks in.  If you explain to the tank that the ward will not generate social aggro, then most of us will say, go ahead and pre-cast the ward. </p><p>I am finding as I play alts more I begin to understand better what each class can do.  I really like my noobie mystic so far.</p>