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shadowedwolf

01-13-2009, 07:47 AM

Ok... I dusted off my PS2 today and played Champions of Norrath for the first time in ages. And while I'm sure that the PS2 Norrath games are non-canon to anything in EQ2... or maybe even EQ1... it still made mention to a great number of things... like good old Mistmoore... and sent a few questions rattling through my mind. One was, are there any other Vampire/Vampire Clans hanging around Norrath? We have Mayong, Rylass(? the ones in Neriak) and D'Morte, but surely there must be a few more? Maybe some lore from one of the new TSO instances?Eh... like I said, I know CoN is probably non-canon but it'd be nice to think there's more than Mayong hanging around and pulling strings in the Vampire world :p

Cusashorn

01-13-2009, 09:23 AM

You kinda answered your own question there by listing all all the vampiric clans. Lets see, i haven't been inside the Loping Plains TSO yet, but from what I remember the quest givers talking about, the vampires inside arn't exactly the same clan as Mayong, and yet they still are. The "Libant" I think they mentioned.If you want to get technical, Xalgoz the sarnak is a vampire as well, though it's only him. He doesn't have any other followers.

shadowedwolf

01-13-2009, 09:43 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>You kinda answered your own question there by listing all all the vampiric clans. Lets see, i haven't been inside the Loping Plains TSO yet, but from what I remember the quest givers talking about, the vampires inside arn't exactly the same clan as Mayong, and yet they still are. The "Libant" I think they mentioned.If you want to get technical, Xalgoz the sarnak is a vampire as well, though it's only him. He doesn't have any other followers.</blockquote>Oh Lord... I answered my own question and I'm to tired to realize how. LoL.Okay... ummm... shoot... oh yea. Wouldn't all vamps technically be apart of Mayong's clan because isn't he the first vampire? Maybe I'm wrong there... I've always been confused on his orgins. Anyways....Hmmm... pity if there aren't more out there that could help shape Norrath. Non-Canon or not... Vanarhost and Sylea from CoN were some interesting Vamps.Okay... I had another thought and just lost it... maybe I should go to bed now. With luck I'll remember the other vampire questions/stuff/whatever later....

Illine

01-13-2009, 09:52 AM

isn't there a story with the De'Morte familly and the god king and the ewer of sul dae?mayong and the De'morte vampires were not created the same way I think. even though I don't know how mayong became a vampire.

Cusashorn

01-13-2009, 10:43 AM

Mayong is supposedly the first vampire, but the D'Morte clan and the one currently in Neriak both came to be through other means. D'Morte is actually the largest thorn in Mayong's side. Both clans are mortal enemies to each other.

Illine

01-13-2009, 12:58 PM

and when you look at vampires, you always see they have elven ears.why isn't there any other type of vampires? like human vampires. or then when someone becomes a vampire, he changes into the graphics we know <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Cusashorn

01-13-2009, 02:11 PM

shadowedwolf

01-13-2009, 03:08 PM

<cite>Illine@Storms wrote:</cite><blockquote>and when you look at vampires, you always see they have elven ears.why isn't there any other type of vampires? like human vampires. or then when someone becomes a vampire, he changes into the graphics we know <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></blockquote>Or perhaps human vampires are the red-headed step-children of the vampire world?I always figured the reason for the look of the Vampires was because of WHERE they are located. D'Morte in Nek Forest region with plenty of Dark Elves to feed on, same with the ones in Neriak... though, weren't they allowed in the city w/ certian rules places upon them? If so, I'm sure one would be who can and can't be turned. I'm sure the Queen wouldn't want them turning a common slave into a Vamp, as that could be bad for business, in a sense....As for the variety in Faydwer.... well... they've got a whole slurry of Elves to feast on... I mean, would you rather bite into the neck of a Dwarf or an Elf? I seem to recall from the Raincaller HQ that one of the Wood Elves mentioned that the Dark Elves fled into the Loping Plains, though very few made it out.Being on the subject of vampires... those Myr'Dal in the Mistmoore Catacombs... are they Vampires or Werewolves? I know that they are an 'expierment' gone wrong but I've never understood WHAT they're supposed to be. I recall one NPC saying Were's and another saying Vamp, though I could be mistaken as the only NPC I can recall offhand mentioning them is the one for the Resotring Ghoulsbane sidequest for the Mistmoore Shield HQ.

RaphaNissi

01-13-2009, 07:24 PM

There is a symbol in one of the new TSO zones that has these words written on it...VashotaRajadeviYciidBechoiLubeshAccording to some old tales, these are names of some of the first vampire clans.

Cusashorn

01-13-2009, 07:37 PM

Some armor and weapons in TSO have "Yciid" in thier name, but there's not much to explain them.

Rezikai

01-13-2009, 09:57 PM

Im not totally sure if all of them are stated but from many runs through the Loping Plains zones Evernight Abbey would probably the best one to start your info from on the different clans there are 5 in total clan leaders inside.. each clan named below. All are part of Mayong's "Libant" or elite sects of Vampires, I assume higher in social ranking then the normal thexian vampires of Loping Plains or his castle.excuse the spelling below as im not in the zone atm, but the clans of the Libant shown in the Abby are,VashotaRajadeviLubeshBechoiYciid-Under them would be the normal Thexian Vampires in and around his Castle-Malkonis D'Morte (who we find out survives the encounter with adventurers in Freethinkers hideout) and his followers are referred to as "Usurpers" by Mayong when he is contacted with a seeing stone by his minion in Ravenscale Repository, so they would be a seperate sect following Malkonis.And finally the D'Ryil vampires that are residing in Neriak, I believe are the recipients of the reconstructed Ewer of Sul'Dae .... eh or were they the remaining children of Tseralith from the cave in.. eh either way they are under Neriaks rules for experimentation for allowance to stay there.

Zabjade

01-15-2009, 01:33 AM

I'm thinking Humans and Iksar tend to go lich rather then vampire (Note: both are races that originated the Monk Class, possibly there could be lich Ogres as well...)

Cusashorn

01-15-2009, 01:41 AM

<cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking Humans and Iksar tend to go lich rather then vampire (Note: both are races that originated the Monk Class, possibly there could be lich Ogres as well...)</blockquote>yeah the monk comment just came out of nowhere...

shadowedwolf

01-15-2009, 04:14 AM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking Humans and Iksar tend to go lich rather then vampire (Note: both are races that originated the Monk Class, possibly there could be lich Ogres as well...)</blockquote>yeah the monk comment just came out of nowhere...</blockquote>I don't see what Monks have to do with it... not sure if you had a connection or not... but I bet you're correct about the Iksar achieving immortality by becoming a Lich. (BTW... I know what a Lich is... but any ideas on it's orgins in Norrath?) Humans though... I don't know. From the Raincaller HQ, I got the impression that most Vampires probably didn't get bitten by choice, and once they were bitten, the mere instinct to survive kicked in.I also got the thinking that Vampires are probably pretty selective of who they bite. Like Cusa said, maybe it's biology... though once undead, I don't think aging is a factor. That and, Elves aren't the only races that don't show signs of aging. I think it's more control and self-control issues. A turned Troll, even an old Troll whose fought many battles, would probably go into a frenzy as oppsed to the more self-restraint Elf. I picture a story of a Troll Vampire being like the story for the Werewolf L&L... carnage would follow.I'll have to grab one of my lvl 80 toons, get a group and head to LP later today. Though, I better grab those quests before I get the group. Problem with a lore driven expansion thats mostly group based is you miss alot of lore when your grouped. LoL.Side note... anyone have a link or could share info on Xalgoz and Zarrakon? I'm sure each has a story behind them and while I think I know who Xal is, I'm paticarly interested in a Dragon Vampire... cuz... that's just cool. :p

Zabjade

01-15-2009, 05:42 AM

Not from nowhere, (Main is a Monk <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> ) Was mostly to inject humor into my statement of noting that Humans and Iksar seem to go Lich rather then vamp.

Cusashorn

01-15-2009, 09:14 AM

Anyways, the only liches in known existance are Miragul, Lucan, and Sathir. Despite all being 3 different races, they're still exceptions to the rule, since there has never been a known case of anyone else ever becoming a lich. Especially not ogres. There's also still a significant difference from vampirism and necromancy.

Tekoppen

01-15-2009, 12:49 PM

<cite>Aingeru@Butcherblock wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Zabjade wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm thinking Humans and Iksar tend to go lich rather then vampire (Note: both are races that originated the Monk Class, possibly there could be lich Ogres as well...)</blockquote>yeah the monk comment just came out of nowhere...</blockquote>I don't see what Monks have to do with it... not sure if you had a connection or not... but I bet you're correct about the Iksar achieving immortality by becoming a Lich. (BTW... I know what a Lich is... but any ideas on it's orgins in Norrath?) Humans though... I don't know. From the Raincaller HQ, I got the impression that most Vampires probably didn't get bitten by choice, and once they were bitten, the mere instinct to survive kicked in.I also got the thinking that Vampires are probably pretty selective of who they bite. Like Cusa said, maybe it's biology... though once undead, I don't think aging is a factor. That and, Elves aren't the only races that don't show signs of aging. I think it's more control and self-control issues. A turned Troll, even an old Troll whose fought many battles, would probably go into a frenzy as oppsed to the more self-restraint Elf. I picture a story of a Troll Vampire being like the story for the Werewolf L&L... carnage would follow.</blockquote>My guess would be that Norrathian vampire lore is probably (at least loosely) based on some other vampire lore. Which ones, I am not sure, but there seems to be similarities such as not being able to stay in the sun, staking is bad etc. I don't know much about the Norrathian lore, but I think the following is pretty close to some other lore it may be based on, at least to some degree:Simply being bitten, is not enough to make you a vampire. You have to die for that, as in being drained completely and then fed vampire blood. If you're just bit by one, you simply die. Or you survive maybe if you're lucky. As for why there are only elven vampires in Norrath (save a troll and a dragon (lol?), I have no idea. I guess the developers though dark elves and vampirism was a good combination? How fast a race ages, should be of no importance either, as vampirism stops the aging process completely. Well, according to most lore anyways.

Ragnaphore

01-15-2009, 04:40 PM

There's a few non-elven vampires in Fallen Gate and a Valkyrie vampire in a solo instance in EF.That said the "pointy ears" might be a result of the vampire's transformation rather than denote an elven heritage.

RaphaNissi

01-16-2009, 12:21 AM

From the information I have come across, the vampires of Norrath (at least Mayong's type) seem to be a bit different from typical vampire lore in that they appear to be a race in and of themselves and don't spread like some kind of plague. The D'Morte's vampirism was described as a "curse" from drinking from the Ewer which doesn't follow the typical path to becoming a vampire either. The vampires of Mayong's race being a race would explain why they all have pointed ears. The fact the D'Morte's were Teir'Dal would explain their ears. From what I can find, there are no tales of the vampires turning others through blood or biting. What I found in my research was a bunch of vampires killing their prey and nothing about turning their prey into vampires. Even in the Bloodline lore there seems to be no obvious reason for the turning of the Qeynosians and Freeportians. I seems the girl may have been turned by the ring found in her room.Oh, I also heard somewhere that Ykesha is a vampire.

Zsargrieb3

01-16-2009, 01:31 AM

What I don't get is if vampires are killed by sunlight then why are they still up during the day in Loping Plains.

Cusashorn

01-16-2009, 02:22 AM

<cite>Zsargrieb3 wrote:</cite><blockquote>What I don't get is if vampires are killed by sunlight then why are they still up during the day in Loping Plains.</blockquote>Nothing in Norrath ever stated that they could be.Besides. Loping Plains is under a perpetual cloud layer.

RaphaNissi

01-16-2009, 06:55 PM

Hmm.. are there ever vampires up in the sunlight on Norrath? As Cusa stated, Loping Plains is always dark and never has any direct sunlight even during the day. The Coterie vampires that were on Luclin were found on the always dark side of the moon. The vampires in New Tunaria only come out at night. The other option is that the sunlight doesn't affect them since other typical vampire "weapons" don't affect them either. Valdoon mocks the use of wooden stakes and garlic against vampires in his dialogue.

Rainmare

01-17-2009, 02:13 AM

and mayong himself is 'unique' among vampires. and Malkonis never seemed to be a 'thorn' as much as an 'annoyance'. mayong says he'll kill him when he gets around to it, and considers him a 'sniveling coward' I believe. like he's barely worth the trouble of doing the job of killing him. about the only hint that mayong might think he's troublesome is mayong saying he'd personally do the deed.So he's a big enough nuisance to need personal attention, but not big enough to really warrant any action unless he 'feels' like it. which is kinda of funny, since Malkonis made a big deal about being able to get the akhn to best mayong...apparently he didn't know that that supposedly super powerful vamp killing relic barely phased mayong. I'd be temtped to have let him keep it just to see him get a beating.

shadowedwolf

01-17-2009, 06:06 AM

<cite>RaphaNissi wrote:</cite><blockquote>From the information I have come across, the vampires of Norrath (at least Mayong's type) seem to be a bit different from typical vampire lore in that they appear to be a race in and of themselves and don't spread like some kind of plague. The D'Morte's vampirism was described as a "curse" from drinking from the Ewer which doesn't follow the typical path to becoming a vampire either. The vampires of Mayong's race being a race would explain why they all have pointed ears. The fact the D'Morte's were Teir'Dal would explain their ears. From what I can find, there are no tales of the vampires turning others through blood or biting. What I found in my research was a bunch of vampires killing their prey and nothing about turning their prey into vampires. Even in the Bloodline lore there seems to be no obvious reason for the turning of the Qeynosians and Freeportians. I seems the girl may have been turned by the ring found in her room.</blockquote>Ummm... I'm sure I missed something, but what girl and what ring? <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Though, speaking of a girl... I do seem to recall one case of Vampirism caused from a bite, though I could be mistaken as the quest where the info was given was done a couple of years ago on a toon that I no longer have. :/Anyways, the 4th quest in the Thule Diety line has you travel to Stomborn Village in the Loping Plains. Za Gah Lu, a quest NPC gives you a book to read (and keep) about a young girl who disappears for days, then returns in bad shape. Eventually 'strange' (well... for Stomborn, I guess) things begin to happen and animals turn up dead, etc. As I recall, it's never actually stated the girl was a Vampire but it was hinted at. I think though I'll have to see if my guild leader has the book from the quest. If she still does, I'll read it and post it here...

LordPazuzu

01-17-2009, 02:06 PM

Mayong Mistmoore and the clans of the Loping Plains are Mistmyrian vampires. I think Mistmyr was supposed to be a cicilzation or race that inhabited southern Faydwer long long ago. Not sure. I believe Mistmyr vampires were the first, though not much is known of their origins. Possible the curse of vampirism led to the downfall of their civilization? D'Morte and his clan are vampires coming from the lineage that drank from the Ewer of Sul'Dae...I think. I may be wrong.The human vampires of Luclin refered to themselves as Vampyres, not Vampires, some of them tended to manifest physical features such as bat wings. I remember a bit of lore about human vampires of the Combine Empire making the voyage to Luclin with that civilization. Tserrina Syl'Tor, the vampire mistress of the Tower of Frozen Shadow, also physically manifested bat wings on her humanoid form. She was once romantically linked to Mayone Mistmoore. I have no clue what has become of her, but she was a fun antagonist and her Tower was one of the best dungeons from EQ1's prime.I'ts been a long time, i've probably mangled alot of that in my memory.Also: Cusa is right, Loping Plains never sees sunlight, much like Nektulos Forest. Both lands seem to be cursed under perpetual twilight. The sun never came out in Nektulos in EQ1 as well, except for the first week after launch. After that- permanent night. The fact that vampires either inhabit areas of perpetual darkness or only come out at night is indicative of their vulnerability to sunlight. Also, Marcus Thex conjures the sun within the Evernight Abbey in an attempt to defeat you once you've made yourself a vampire. If you stay in the room, you die horribly to it. Valdoon mocks the use of garlic, I remember that, but isn't part of the scripting within Mistmoore's Inner Sanctum the staking of vampires within their coffins? It's been along time, I don't quite remember.

Cusashorn

01-17-2009, 02:27 PM

<cite>Meaghan@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote>Mayong Mistmoore and the clans of the Loping Plains are Mistmyrian vampires. I think Mistmyr was supposed to be a cicilzation or race that inhabited southern Faydwer long long ago. Not sure. I believe Mistmyr vampires were the first, though not much is known of their origins. Possible the curse of vampirism led to the downfall of their civilization? D'Morte and his clan are vampires coming from the lineage that drank from the Ewer of Sul'Dae...I think. I may be wrong.The human vampires of Luclin refered to themselves as Vampyres, not Vampires, some of them tended to manifest physical features such as bat wings. I remember a bit of lore about human vampires of the Combine Empire making the voyage to Luclin with that civilization. Tserrina Syl'Tor, the vampire mistress of the Tower of Frozen Shadow, also physically manifested bat wings on her humanoid form. She was once romantically linked to Mayone Mistmoore. I have no clue what has become of her, but she was a fun antagonist and her Tower was one of the best dungeons from EQ1's prime.I'ts been a long time, i've probably mangled alot of that in my memory.Also: Cusa is right, Loping Plains never sees sunlight, much like Nektulos Forest. Both lands seem to be cursed under perpetual twilight. The sun never came out in Nektulos in EQ1 as well, except for the first week after launch. After that- permanent night. The fact that vampires either inhabit areas of perpetual darkness or only come out at night is indicative of their vulnerability to sunlight. Also, Marcus Thex conjures the sun within the Evernight Abbey in an attempt to defeat you once you've made yourself a vampire. If you stay in the room, you die horribly to it. Valdoon mocks the use of garlic, I remember that, but isn't part of the scripting within Mistmoore's Inner Sanctum the staking of vampires within their coffins? It's been along time, I don't quite remember.</blockquote>The Coterie Vampires of Luclin were the direct result of a Disease that transformed thier bodies after they had (I believe unintentionally) ingested Akhevian blood. They started out as normal humans from the very start, and transformed after they got there.Nektulos Forest is actually so dense and thick that the sunlight rarely ever touches the forest floor. This is explained in the lore behind the zone. The sun never showed through any of the forest zones in EQlive due to technical reasons. It was suppose to convey that the trees were blocking it out.

RaphaNissi

01-17-2009, 04:18 PM

Ragnaphore

01-17-2009, 05:28 PM

<cite>RaphaNissi wrote:</cite><blockquote>From what I can find, there are no tales of the vampires turning others through blood or biting. What I found in my research was a bunch of vampires killing their prey and nothing about turning their prey into vampires. </blockquote>I guess you never did Evernight Abbey then. To reach the end of the zone, your group need to turn into vampires and you use transfusion for doing that (when in vampire form, sunlight is definitly deadly btw)And last Halloween event was about a prey (you) turned into a vampire.

Cusashorn

01-19-2009, 11:59 AM

While doing the Brell Serilis questline, I ended up fighting "A Vampiric Dwarven Paladin" for one quest. Now that I think back, they've indicated that other races came become vampires or at least obtain vampiric-like abilities. There are dwarven thralls among the guests in Mistmoore Catacombs.There are human Somborn villagers acting as guards inside Mistmoore Castle, and they display signs of vampirism as well.

Coniaric

01-19-2009, 06:07 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>and thick that the sunlight rarely ever touches the forest floor. This is explained in the lore behind the zone. The sun never showed through any of the forest zones in EQlive due to technical reasons. It was suppose to convey that the trees were blocking it out.</blockquote>That and the ash from the volcanoes of Lavastorm drifting south over Nektulos Forest. I think that was mentioned somewhere.

Terron

01-20-2009, 01:28 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyways, the only liches in known existance are Miragul, Lucan, and Sathir.</blockquote>There is also Archlich Udalan.

Cusashorn

01-20-2009, 02:07 PM

<cite>Terron@Splitpaw wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anyways, the only liches in known existance are Miragul, Lucan, and Sathir.</blockquote>There is also Archlich Udalan.</blockquote>Umm.. WHO?

BleemTeam

01-20-2009, 04:09 PM

mob in t5 raid version of Firemyst Gully.

Cusashorn

01-20-2009, 06:39 PM

<cite>Brailyn@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>mob in t5 raid version of Firemyst Gully.</blockquote>Oh. Another throw-away character who has no official story or reason to being in that zone or the game. That's as good as saying he still doesn't exist.

shadowedwolf

01-21-2009, 04:49 AM

The Tragedy of Ysa by AnonymousThe good lass Ysa Dondreal, daughter of John and Pila, disappeared 17 years ago on a humid, moonless night. John and Pila were good people, and to lose a daughter as such broke the towns heath. Though none believed it, they were reassured constantly of her safe return.One month had gone by when Ysa returned, her clothes were drenched, her hair a muss and yet her lips wore a dagger of a smile. Despite that smile, her return was celebrated. Our time was spent rejoicing, not questioning. That night, we thanked whatever fores we thought had saved the lovely young girl and were content to leave it at that.As days passed, however, curiosity got the bust of us. We were to timid to approach the girl herself. Her parents became the targets of our questioning. "Where was she?""What happened to her?" And most of all, "why the smile?"That piercing smile. It cut across her face as a rend in a shut hung to dry. Her dark, straight hair hung low, leaving little skin visable, save around her mouth; it completely covered her eyes. And always, she wore that smile. In a room it followed yuo as might painted eyes.Niether John nor Pila had any answers to give. The could not get her to speak and dared not push her too far. It lingered across the town's unconscious, but we respected the family and kept our distance; would not we hadn't.It was a loud morning - two months at least after Ysa's return - when Falkner roused his neighbors with his cries. He was a bloody mess. We thought him to die before we leanred none of the blood was his. Though he was too affected to speak, he led us 'round the back of his house so we could see for ourselves.His goats lay slaughtered. The meat often as not stripped from thier bones. Their limbs seperated from thier bodies, scattered about Flakner's yeard. And there was a bloody mess of a trail leading toward the Deep Down Gultch...It was then that I noticed that the Dondrael's were not presant. I can't say I am the only one that noticed, it seemed such a silly thing to notice at such a time, but I noticed regardless. I was overcome with unease and retired to my home. It was there, while sipping tea, that I saw John Dondrael steal from his house.He crept forward, glancing over his shoulder. The twined package under his arm pulled at my curiosity. When he disappeared into the graveyard I took a molment to calm my thoughts. The was nothing, surely. Before my mind could make any accusations, I left the house. Intent of stimulating myself otherwise I busied myself calming the fiasco at Falkner's.That night I could not sleep. My ears amplified the sounds of the night as if they were not presant before. The softstir of a night animal became the crunching of feet on the ground toward the graveyard. The wind became whispered voices, consipirators. And the creaking and graoning of old housed becaimg the growling of beasts, ready to devour. My mind would not let for of John in the Graveyard. Befoer I knew waht I was doing, I found myself walking across the town and through the Graveyard Gates, shovel in hand. The moon was bright overhead, in a night or two it would be full. It gave me light enough to find the recently disturbed Earth that I sought. I began to dig...I found John's package and hefted it from the ground. I placed it upon a headstone and undid the twine knots. Before I got it open I twisted my face in the reaction to the scent of goat urine. Once open, however, I was faced with what appeared to be a dark folded piece of cloth.Blood. My hand was coated in blood now, I shouldn't have reached inside. I pulled back at the feel of it, knocking the package off the headstone. The cloth freed itslef from the package, enough of itself for me to reconize the frills of white - now red- gown Ysa oft wore.Despite my fear, I was ready to pick up the item when I heard the soft steps of someone in the distance.I turned to the town. There stood Ysa. Her naked body shone in the moonlight. Though I did not move, and did not breathe, she faced me. I could not see her eyes. The open grin stared me in teh face. My heart raced, the wind picked up. Ysa turned and disappeared between two buildings. I do not know how long I stood there, I was afraid to move or make any noise. I wanted to place John's package back within the confines of the Earth, but there was no way to hide the blood that had spilled across the headstone and soaked into the ground. I was tired, and afraid. I left the scene and ran home. I slept, though I know not how I managed.I awoke to a commotion. My hands were clean of blood. I do not recall cleaning them, but I am glad of it. I exited my house and joined the throng that had gathered ouside Ysa's house. I didn't need to ask questions, others were doing enough of that. I only listened. "I didn't see her but Alba did, and Tyra says she did too.""Oh that poor boy,""like a ravenous wolf, they say." Pila Dondrael stood guard between her door and the angry crown, but the look on her face gave away her lack of conviction. When tehy pushed her aside, she did not struggle. For pitchfork_wielding citizens entered first. Those that followed quickly stopped and backed from the house.Silence spread through the crown, and one by one people found thier way to the door to look in. There John Dondrael sat, his head heavy on his clenched hands, his body shaking as if in a sobing heave, yet his face vacent. On the floor lay Ysa. Her neck brightly blemished with John's guild, her face discolored, her smile straightened.We left. No words were given. No explanation asked. Jutice, it seemed to us, was done. Yet at what cost to John?Time passed. My mind cannot recall how much exactly. John wore a cold, expressionless face then just as Ysa had worn ther terrible smile. Pila too seemed unable to function. Her father, a craftsmen from far away, came to retrieve her one day. John did not see her off. And then one day, John too, was gone. The children say he scared them away from Wayunder Lake that day, he and his heavy sack going in never to emerge. The adults would rather not speak of it.edit: that's the Tragedy of Ysa I promised. I copied it here the VERY hard way... went, read it, copied it by hand to my notebook then retyped it here for y'all to read, so I apologize for any errors on my part. Still... it's a great story and the dev's that wrote it managed to freak me out for the night...

shadowedwolf

01-21-2009, 04:54 AM

^Book given to you during the 4th quest in the Cazic Thule Diety line. In it you go to Stomborn and scare the bejebus outta the villagers by placing some of Ysa's belongings around the place... ya know... after you learn why they would be afraid of her... which you learn through the book. Yea....I'm not certain if that is a vampire story or not... but it is scary... and after reading it a few times... I'm pretty convinved it is. I THOUGHT there was more evidence supporting my thought of Ysa being a vampire but I guess not. Still... I promised I'd get it copied and put here in the forums... and I did. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> And now that that story has me creeped out... I can't help but wonder... WAS Ysa a vampire... or something else? I had hoped that it mentioned HOW she was turned into whatever she was in the story, and thinking IF it did say perhaps it was a quest NPC... but... yea... don't know. :/Oh... and... for those interested, the quest name is Spirits of Stomborn.Edit: While this has nothing to do with Vampires.... it is along the same topic (spooky things that hang out in Loping Plains and Nek Forest :p) are there any notable werewolves in Norrath lore?

Terron

01-21-2009, 01:15 PM

<cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Brailyn@The Bazaar wrote:</cite><blockquote>mob in t5 raid version of Firemyst Gully.</blockquote>Oh. Another throw-away character who has no official story or reason to being in that zone or the game. That's as good as saying he still doesn't exist.</blockquote>He does have a bit of an official story<a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Cogglesworth%27s_Comprehensive_Compendium%2C_Part_ 4" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Coggleswo...ndium%2C_Part_4</a>

Zin`Car

02-05-2009, 03:16 PM

Cusashorn

02-05-2009, 06:33 PM

I was doing the Brell questline a couple weeks back and noticed that I had to kill "A Vampiric Paladin", a dwarf ghost, in Mistmoore Catacombs. I guess the elven variety of vampire are just the most common and most physically changed during the transformation.

Zin`Car

02-13-2009, 02:22 PM

Doesn't make sense being a vampiric ghost dwarf. Ghost dwarf, ok. Vampiric Dwarf (unlikely but..), ok. Vampric Ghost Dwarf... dont think possible. Would be like an underwater hotair ballon. Guessing the dev team borked that somehow.

Cusashorn

02-13-2009, 02:25 PM

I said Dwarf ghost, not Ghost Dwarf. There is a difference.

Zin`Car

02-15-2009, 05:11 AM

you're still referencing the MOB as a vampire, yet he is a ghost. Ghostly vampires or vampire ghosts... basically amounts to an undead undead?Ghostly vampire: A ghost who has been bitten and INFECTED with vamirism. --- first, there's nothing to bite on a ghost. second, umm how do you give something that's already dead a disease?Vampire ghost: dead vampire who's spirit has arisen to haunt the real. --- umm ya, dead vampire = destroyed, obliterated, reduced to nothingness. do not pass go. do not collect 200plat.conclusion: borked quest content in one way or another. regardless, the dwarf is not a vampire. As a ghost, he may feed off the life force of the living but that's kinda grasping for straws. He's simply not a turned creature.wording, rewording, wordsmithing it however you like doesn't change that simple fact.

glowsintheda

02-15-2009, 05:49 PM

In D&D there were various baddies that were a vampiric whatever. This didn't mean that they were actually vampires, just that they sucked blood/vitality/lifeforce/whatever from their victims and that it replenished them when they did so. I see no reason that the word vampiric can't just mean that that ghost had that sort of ability, not that it was in fact a vampire.

Zin`Car

02-15-2009, 09:43 PM

<cite>glowsinthedark wrote:</cite><blockquote>In D&D...</blockquote>The simple fact that you started your entire logic track with those two words already discredits anything following those two words as well as discredit the entire rest of your post... exemplified by the fact i did not both putting anything else in the quote.This is not D&D. no matter how much you want / wish / hope / pray / beg / whine / etc, it's not D&D. Yes, it has elements of course that were inspired from D&D... however, that doesn't justify anything for EQ2.That's like saying, "Since the king cobra is deadly to man-kind, all snakes in the entire world should be destroyed."Conclusion: blanket statements and generalizations cannot and do not create specific answers or solutions.

glowsintheda

02-16-2009, 04:01 AM

wow, someone [Removed for Content] in someones weaties this morning. You apparently didn't even read the rest of the post simply because I said D&D, an example from there, as to what could be a possible explanation for what something that was clearly a ghost was called a vampiric whatever and you flip out. Whats the matter, did the kids that played D&D at your school snub you because you weren't cool enough to hang out with them or something. Like I said, in D&D vampiric could some times just mean something that had a lifestealing effect/ability, it is possible that that is what they could have ment with that particular mob also, no reason to get your panites in a twist over it.

Eugam

02-16-2009, 09:56 AM

<cite>Luinne@Kithicor wrote:</cite><blockquote>you're still referencing the MOB as a vampire, yet he is a ghost. Ghostly vampires or vampire ghosts... basically amounts to an undead undead?Ghostly vampire: A ghost who has been bitten and INFECTED with vamirism. --- first, there's nothing to bite on a ghost. second, umm how do you give something that's already dead a disease?Vampire ghost: dead vampire who's spirit has arisen to haunt the real. --- umm ya, dead vampire = destroyed, obliterated, reduced to nothingness. do not pass go. do not collect 200plat.conclusion: borked quest content in one way or another. regardless, the dwarf is not a vampire. As a ghost, he may feed off the life force of the living but that's kinda grasping for straws. He's simply not a turned creature.wording, rewording, wordsmithing it however you like doesn't change that simple fact.</blockquote>A ghost is a bodyless undead and a zombie or skelleton is a undead with a some kind of body. So there could be a bodyless (ghost) vampire.In context to the topic i am not even sure if vampires are undead in EQ2. All i know they dont die naturally or live a very long time.OP: Wherent there 2 clans involved in the bloodline cronicles ?

Ragnaphore

02-22-2009, 12:24 AM

<cite>Eugam wrote:</cite><blockquote>In context to the topic i am not even sure if vampires are undead in EQ2. All i know they dont die naturally or live a very long time.OP: Wherent there 2 clans involved in the bloodline cronicles ?</blockquote>Vampires are considered undead in EQ2 (the undead-only necro charm works on them)It's been a while but I don't remember 2 clans in BC.

Rainmare

03-01-2009, 08:28 AM

D'morte and I think T'haen I think.

RaphaNissi

03-05-2009, 07:41 PM

There plans to be a discussion on Mayong in the befallen.lore channel in game tomorrow for those who are interested in discussing Vampires of Norrath. Hopefully it will be sometime in the mid-afternoon (central time).

shadowedwolf

03-09-2009, 12:31 PM

<cite>RaphaNissi wrote:</cite><blockquote>There plans to be a discussion on Mayong in the befallen.lore channel in game tomorrow for those who are interested in discussing Vampires of Norrath. Hopefully it will be sometime in the mid-afternoon (central time).</blockquote>Missed out on it... how was it?