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Melofire
01-08-2009, 06:48 PM
<p>I'm looking for some help I quit playing back when EoF came out. I've since returned to the game recently. I've been leveling up my Templar and now I am looking for some suggestions with how to build up my AA's for the best healing spec. I don't want to do damage I care nothing for it. Just Healing..... Anyone have any sites or other posts they can direct me to? It would be greatly appreciated.</p>

Enoa
01-09-2009, 03:45 AM
<p>Eq2flames is a good resourse.. there is some thread here too but you'll hvae to search for them.</p><p>In short</p><p>KOS:  INT 44682 AGI 4488 STA 4476   (though STR is nice for the solo grind to 80 so dont discount dps... it's a slow grind for a templar)</p><p>EOF:  Blessing (enough to get blessings.   max out UB) / Reproval (mit debfuff -5) / cures (enough for sanctuary, ignore mana cure) / smites (5 each in the nukes and warring dieities and take end ability)</p><p>       again smites > cures imo ... especially for the solo grind up.     though cures would be a more "conservative healer spec".   I'd do 2 lines in eof then move to tso.</p><p>TSO:  mana 5 health 5, seal of faith 5, holy armor 5, devoted healing 5, deveoted allegiance 5 (could do 5 in allied prayers... though not impressed with this ability atm).     Flurry -5 is very nice espeically if you're runnign with the melee crits from KOS.   4th line is obvious.   rest of points distributed as you see fit in TSO.  (note you can't get to 4th line without 170 total spent).</p><p>Which ones to concentrate on first can be debated... INT/ AGI/ Blessings would be priorities i think.   followed by sta/ smites.  </p>

Frain
01-19-2009, 01:55 PM
<p><cite>Enoa@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>KOS:  INT 44621 AGI 4488 STA 4476   (though STR is nice for the solo grind to 80 so dont discount dps... it's a slow grind for a templar)</p></blockquote><p>I hope you mean INT 4-4-6-8-2? Or atleast 4-4-4-8</p>

Enoa
01-19-2009, 11:18 PM
<p>BAh i did... why are the numbers arranged on a phone and a keypad differently. <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  </p><p>I guess end ability takes too points.   Thanks for catching that.   I've updatd the orginal post.</p>

Valrose
01-20-2009, 02:23 AM
<p>Here is the spec I currently run with, and it works fine for me.  Take your Cleric STR: 4, 4, 6, 8, 2    AGI:  4, 4, 8, 8   WIS: 4, 4, 4, 8    Total 69</p><p>I like the Templar Mark of Divinity 3, Involuntary Gift 5, Unyielding Benediction 6, Glory 6, Blessings 1;  Reproval 5, Sign of Placation 5, Greater Complacency 5, Awestruck 5, Overconfidence 1; Noxious 5, Trauma 5, Elemental 5, Arcane 5, Sanctuary 5    Total 67</p><p>I am having trouble remembering my spec here, I am at work and cannot look it up.  In the Shadow Odyssey I would take: Improved mana 5, Improved health 5, Improve short cast heal 5, Improve Buckler 5, Improve Vitae 5, Improve Redoubt (the HP buff could be wrong on the name) 5, Sacrifice 1, Improve Group Direct Heal 5 (I would stay away from the group vitae for now), + HP to buff spells 5, Healing Stance 2    Total 43</p><p>Obviously there is still room for points elsewhere, I would recomend adding points to each of your group defense buffs.  TSO tree I am still learning and experimenting with.</p>

Enoa
01-20-2009, 04:04 AM
<p>Eww Wisdom line <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Overconfidnece line may have some uses with upcoming tank changes.   I would never spec outta smite wraths though but that's cause i like nukin'.   Had it a bit in ROK... only really found it useful on when we were working Twins in Korsha tbh.</p>

Antryg Mistrose
01-21-2009, 04:01 AM
<p><cite>Enoa@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p> I would never spec outta smite wraths though but that's cause i like nukin'.</p></blockquote><p>All out healing AAs?</p><p>One of my current specs (165 pts) is:</p><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">Cleric (70pts):</span></p><p>44882 AGI - personal AOE avoid for 2 pts is hard to pass up</p><p>44681 INT - Personal preference - STR is more situational</p><p>4447 STA - more contentios.  With enough heal crit gear, you can get rid of this, but with maxing Shield Ally thats hard to do</p><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">Templar (48pts):</span></p><p>Blessings via Mark 5, Amending Fate 5, Involuntary Gift 5, Unyielding Benediction 2, Glory 3  (amending fate is probably the least use in raiding, but comes into its own in grouping)</p><p>5 in Reproval, 2 so far in Complacency</p><p>Enough in cures to get Sanctuary (3nox, 3trauma, 3arcane, 3group)</p><p><span style="color: #ffcc00;">Shadows (47 pts):</span></p><p>5 health, 5 power</p><p>5 prayer of healing, 5 protective prayer, 5 secular protection, 5 Seal of Faith, Supplication of the Fallen</p><p>5 devout incapacitation, 5 devoted allegience, 5 devoted healing, sacrifice  (allied prayers is not worth getting).</p><p>My next points will go into templar:complacency, and a couple in cures until 170, then pick the good stuff out of the Shadows final line:  Holy Arbitration - 1 pt for a  neat party trick, Penance - obvious, Templar's restoration - obvious, Restorative Healing - obvious, Focused Prayers.</p><p>Overconfidence is probably what I'll go for to finish Templar tree - it seems to work ok, on mobs that don't one-shto.  This leaves a few points left over with no obvious heal related stuff to spend it on - Peaceful Agression & Overwhelming Arms are probably the most bang for the buck then, or throw a few more into cures for mana cure and pretend that does something.</p>

Ealthina
01-22-2009, 10:29 PM
<p>If you plan of raiding past t2 you had better get over that whole "I don't like Nuke'N" mentality.  If you're not healing or curing you had better be blasting crap.</p>

Kizee
01-23-2009, 12:28 PM
<p><cite>Ealthina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you plan of raiding past t2 you had better get over that whole "I don't like Nuke'N" mentality.  If you're not healing or curing you had better be blasting crap.</p></blockquote><p>Well thanks to SoE you are never done curing (spam curing FTL) so I wouldn't worry about dpsing if you don't like to.</p>

Antryg Mistrose
01-24-2009, 09:18 AM
<p><cite>Ealthina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you plan of raiding past t2 you had better get over that whole "I don't like Nuke'N" mentality.  If you're not healing or curing you had better be blasting crap.</p></blockquote><p>Given the topic, and that someone is even asking - they may not have the leisure to nuke much.  My AA in the MT group are focused completely on healing, but I do have a mirror</p>

Jevangal
02-04-2009, 11:08 AM
<p><cite>Ealthina wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>If you plan of raiding past t2 you had better get over that whole "I don't like Nuke'N" mentality.  If you're not healing or curing you had better be blasting crap.</p></blockquote><p>My experience is there is hardly any chance to do anything but cure and heal!</p>

Itsey
02-04-2009, 06:20 PM
<p>This is what I currently have (at 194 AA) for my all-out healing spec. It's a pretty decent raid spec, but your mileage may vary.</p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/clerichps.jgp" width="652" height="612" /></p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/templarhps.jgp" width="655" height="610" /></p><p>The remaining points here can go into dps or de-aggro. It's up to you.</p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/shadowhps.jpg" width="655" height="612" /></p><p>There are other useful specs however. If you already have high heal crit (or if you're already buffed above 100% heal crit in a raid group), consider moving points to "Steadfast" for the immunity to interruption, which is helpful for some encounters. You may also have sacrifice Divine Recovery as well, however, to do so. So your alternate cleric tree may look like this.</p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/clericdps2.jpg" width="653" height="608" /></p><p>You can then use an AA mirror to develop a more dps-oriented spec, or a more balanced / utility spec. Note that the 8 points in "Bolt of Power", above Steadfast on the far left is pretty useful for its ability to interrupt. (hint: Varsoon)</p><p>The above spec is part of my more dps / balanced spec. The rest of that spec is as follows:</p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/templardps2.jpg" width="656" height="609" /></p><p>The remaining points here can either go into Reproval or de-aggro, depending on your needs.</p><p><img src="http://www.itseyland.com/pics/shadowdps2.jgp" width="652" height="609" /></p><p>Obviously, this spec has more dps in it, but it also not a "pure dps" spec either -- it has enough healage/defensive abilities in it that you can raid with it in the MT group and still be a viable healer. (Which is why I have put points in both stances--so you can multi-role without having to respec in the middle of a raid).</p><p>In this more balanced spec, you can quickly switch from dps to healing by switching from offensive to healing stance and disabling "Yaulp." Conversely, enable the offensive stance (Peaceful Aggression) and Yaulp to switch to an offensive/dps stance. Having a macro with alternate gear configuration (a dps gear set and a healer gear set), is also helpful for playing a multi-role healer.</p><p>In practice, I have a bit more fun with my multi-role spec than with my pure healer spec. The pure healer spec is still considerably better for the toughest zones.</p><p>Enjoy.</p><p>[This public service message brought to you by the friendly folks at Advocatus Diaboli on Everfrost.]</p>

Antryg Mistrose
02-07-2009, 10:35 AM
<p>Well, I wouldn't call them wrong, but there are a couple of things I wouldn't do with an all out healing spec:</p><ul><li>4478 AGI instead of 4488 - if you are going to get the best out of shield ally, you need to max everything that contriubutes to it. (Personally I drop 1 pt from heal crits to do this)</li><li>Manacure and maxing out the tiny little reactives that never trigger? From testing even my max heal spec will go Smite Wraths after maxing out complacency (for the deaggro).  I do  leave enough pts to max out Sanctuary to 40sec (regardless of detractors who claim its not necessary).</li><li>Points in Allied Prayers? it doesn't do squat.  Either its broken, or I never let the reactive time out in the MT group, as it barely registered on any heal parse when I had it.  I'd throw the saved points into our small direct heal on the line above, or flurry even (yeah,  yeah I know its a pure heal spec - Disgrace then).</li><li>Disgrace and its upgrades, if you can throw enough points into it, the mitigation debuff is pretty significant on paper for raids (nothing lives long enough in groups) - Thats in templar & tso trees which you haven't done. (Templar gives more).</li></ul>

SpineDoc
02-09-2009, 10:48 AM
<p>I was wondering about the lack of mitigation debuff points on that build as well.  I know that when soloing putting the mitigation debuff on improves my melee dps a solid 20% with no AA points, and I would estimate 30-40% with all the AA's maxed.  As a debuff with grouping/raids, especially with a lot of melee/tank/scout damage, that's just a huge debuff IMO.</p>