Question About the Rules for Spending TSO AA Points

[StaboCA]

<p></p><p>Does anyone know what the rules are regarding how AA can be spent on the various new TSO AA trees?</p> <p>Here’s why I ask:<span>  </span>I play a raid templar. Pre-TSO the most recent Templar AA page was pretty lame. Aside from some nice Blessing AA’s the rest wasn’t of much use. The Smites and Compliances weren’t much use when raiding, and the Cure line AA’s were weak.</p> <p>So when TSO came out I immediately respected the Templar AA page to move a bunch of my points from the Templar AA page to the much more useful TSO AA page. I’ve opened up the first few tiers, but can’t seem to get that last “Templar” tier to open up.</p> <p>I’ve spent the requisite 10 points in the Cleric level, and also bought the end line item Sacrifice, but can’t seem to get that last Templar tier to open up. Also when I earn new AA’s I’m unable to spend them in that last tier.</p> <p>Not knowing what the problem is, I’ve made the assumption that there might be some requirement to have a specific number of AA’s spent in the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier opens up on the TSO page, and so have been putting any new points I earn into the old AA page, but I really hate to be doing so given that most of those AA abilities suck.</p> <p>So back to my question, I’m wondering if in addition to the “10 points in the previous level” requirement for each tier in the TSO page, there might be some other restrictions that I’m unaware of. Maybe I need to max the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier will open up, or maybe I need more than the stated "10 points required" in the previous level to open up that last TSO tier. <span> </span></p> <p>Anyways, if anyone knows what might be the problem, please let me know. Thanks!!</p>

[Sprin]

<p><cite>StaboCA wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Does anyone know what the rules are regarding how AA can be spent on the various new TSO AA trees?</p><p>Here’s why I ask:<span>  </span>I play a raid templar. Pre-TSO the most recent Templar AA page was pretty lame. Aside from some nice Blessing AA’s the rest wasn’t of much use. The Smites and Compliances weren’t much use when raiding, and the Cure line AA’s were weak.</p><p>So when TSO came out I immediately respected the Templar AA page to move a bunch of my points from the Templar AA page to the much more useful TSO AA page. I’ve opened up the first few tiers, but can’t seem to get that last “Templar” tier to open up.</p><p>I’ve spent the requisite 10 points in the Cleric level, and also bought the end line item Sacrifice, but can’t seem to get that last Templar tier to open up. Also when I earn new AA’s I’m unable to spend them in that last tier.</p><p>Not knowing what the problem is, I’ve made the assumption that there might be some requirement to have a specific number of AA’s spent in the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier opens up on the TSO page, and so have been putting any new points I earn into the old AA page, but I really hate to be doing so given that most of those AA abilities suck.</p><p>So back to my question, I’m wondering if in addition to the “10 points in the previous level” requirement for each tier in the TSO page, there might be some other restrictions that I’m unaware of. Maybe I need to max the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier will open up, or maybe I need more than the stated "10 points required" in the previous level to open up that last TSO tier. <span> </span></p><p>Anyways, if anyone knows what might be the problem, please let me know. Thanks!!</p></blockquote><p>you have to have spent 170 points to open up the last line in the Shadow tree.. it should say it in red lettering right above the tree itself.. it does for me</p>

[Sedenten]

<p>You need 170 AA's total spent across all of your trees (KoS, EoF and Shadow) to spend any further points into the last tree in Shadows. </p><p>There should be a red message just above the Templar Shadow line that says you need 170 AA's spent, I believe.</p>

[StaboCA]

<p>Thanks!</p>

[Thunndar316]

<p>Just dont spend too many in the TSO tree because you can only use 60 total.  Save 15 or so for the last row.</p>

[Baccalarium]

<p><cite>Sprinng@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>StaboCA wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Does anyone know what the rules are regarding how AA can be spent on the various new TSO AA trees?</p><p>Here’s why I ask:<span> </span>I play a raid templar. Pre-TSO the most recent Templar AA page was pretty lame. Aside from some nice Blessing AA’s the rest wasn’t of much use. The Smites and Compliances weren’t much use when raiding, and the Cure line AA’s were weak.</p><p>So when TSO came out I immediately respected the Templar AA page to move a bunch of my points from the Templar AA page to the much more useful TSO AA page. I’ve opened up the first few tiers, but can’t seem to get that last “Templar” tier to open up.</p><p>I’ve spent the requisite 10 points in the Cleric level, and also bought the end line item Sacrifice, but can’t seem to get that last Templar tier to open up. Also when I earn new AA’s I’m unable to spend them in that last tier.</p><p>Not knowing what the problem is, I’ve made the assumption that there might be some requirement to have a specific number of AA’s spent in the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier opens up on the TSO page, and so have been putting any new points I earn into the old AA page, but I really hate to be doing so given that most of those AA abilities suck.</p><p>So back to my question, I’m wondering if in addition to the “10 points in the previous level” requirement for each tier in the TSO page, there might be some other restrictions that I’m unaware of. Maybe I need to max the Templar AA page before that last Templar tier will open up, or maybe I need more than the stated "10 points required" in the previous level to open up that last TSO tier. <span> </span></p><p>Anyways, if anyone knows what might be the problem, please let me know. Thanks!!</p></blockquote><p>you have to have spent 170 points to open up the last line in the Shadow tree.. it should say it in red lettering right above the tree itself.. it does for me</p></blockquote><p>I use the default interface other than eq2maps add on and have to admit this confused me for a bit as well.   Above the class specific mystic  Shadow tree it says requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The AA descriptions say requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The only place it says requires 170 total AA points is above the two stances at the very right side of the mystic tree.    I've since come to understand that the 170 point restriction applies to the entire mystic tree and not just the stances at the end.    It seems like the descriptions should reflect this the same way they reflect the restruction of 10 points in the shaman tree.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Baccalarium wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I use the default interface other than eq2maps add on and have to admit this confused me for a bit as well.   Above the class specific mystic  Shadow tree it says requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The AA descriptions say requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The only place it says requires 170 total AA points is above the two stances at the very right side of the mystic tree.    I've since come to understand that the 170 point restriction applies to the entire mystic tree and not just the stances at the end.    It seems like the descriptions should reflect this the same way they reflect the restruction of 10 points in the shaman tree.</blockquote><p>Actually, with the default UI there is no mention of 10 points being spent in the shaman tree in order to gain access to the mystic achievements.</p><p>The only thing it has is the 170 point requirement (that should be centered imo), and then each of the end abilities have 10 points spent in the associated tree as a part of their discription.</p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Baccalarium wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>I use the default interface other than eq2maps add on and have to admit this confused me for a bit as well.   Above the class specific mystic  Shadow tree it says requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The AA descriptions say requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The only place it says requires 170 total AA points is above the two stances at the very right side of the mystic tree.    I've since come to understand that the 170 point restriction applies to the entire mystic tree and not just the stances at the end.    It seems like the descriptions should reflect this the same way they reflect the restruction of 10 points in the shaman tree.</blockquote><p>Actually, with the default UI there is no mention of 10 points being spent in the shaman tree in order to gain access to the mystic achievements.</p><p>The only thing it has is the 170 point requirement (that should be centered imo), and then each of the end abilities have 10 points spent in the associated tree as a part of their discription.</p></blockquote><p>Raiding temp probably has profit so that 170 AA message in red letters doesn't or didn't show up.</p><p>I had the same issue with profit.  Didn't show it anywhere in the Achievment UI Object.  Haven't really bothered to check since but they probably updated it by now /shrug.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Baccalarium wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><strong><em><span style="text-decoration: underline;">I use the default interface</span></em></strong> other than eq2maps add on and have to admit this confused me for a bit as well.   Above the class specific mystic  Shadow tree it says requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The AA descriptions say requires 10 points in the shaman tree.   The only place it says requires 170 total AA points is above the two stances at the very right side of the mystic tree.    I've since come to understand that the 170 point restriction applies to the entire mystic tree and not just the stances at the end.    It seems like the descriptions should reflect this the same way they reflect the restruction of 10 points in the shaman tree.</blockquote><p>Actually,<em><strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;"> with the default UI</span></strong></em> there is no mention of 10 points being spent in the shaman tree in order to gain access to the mystic achievements.</p><p>The only thing it has is the 170 point requirement (that should be centered imo), and then each of the end abilities have 10 points spent in the associated tree as a part of their discription.</p></blockquote><p>Raiding temp probably has profit so that 170 AA message in red letters doesn't or didn't show up.</p><p>I had the same issue with profit.  Didn't show it anywhere in the Achievment UI Object.  Haven't really bothered to check since but they probably updated it by now /shrug.</p></blockquote><p>I'm aware of that. Pay attention to the bolded parts, one from me, the other from the person I was replying to.</p>

[Macross_JR]

<p>Noaani you pay attention to who he is talking about, he was talking about the OP not Baccalarium.</p><p>And yes I know he quoted you, but some people do that whenever they reply to a post.  But with some better reading comprehension you probably could have seen who he was talking about.</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Gimbel@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>And yes I know he quoted you, but some people do that whenever they reply to a post. </blockquote><p>Xil doesn't, but thanks.</p>