Swashbuckler TSO AAs change suggestion [Archive]

Delow

12-15-2008, 03:02 AM

We gave feedback in beta about our AAs and we really didn't get much attention. I am going to open a discussion on our AAs again to see if we get anymore attention now.I don't think what I have suggested here is asking too much btw, I think its more in line with what we actually do which is damage and offensive debuffing.<hr />Current Swashbuckler TSO line AAs:Charming PersonaAdds an additional int debuff to the targetFencing ExpertiseIncreases Riposte damage of the swashbuckler by 10%/rank.Pirates SwipeIncreases damage, reuse, and hit chance of Traumatic Swipe by 5%/rank.Flamboyant SwashbucklingImproves Base damage and critical damage by 5%/rankKidney SliceImproves the base damage and critical damage by 5%/rank.Countering BlowImproves trigger chance when using a CA by 3%/rank.Increases the damage by 3%/rank.Precision StrikingImproves the base damage of attacks which have a 30 second or longer reuse timer by 10%. Also improves critical damage by 5%.Enfeebling WhirlDecreases INT and STR of targets in Area of Effect by 66Inflicts 1393 - 2458 melee damage on targets in area.<hr />My recommendations for each of these that I think need to be changed.Charming PersonaAdds an additional int debuff to the targetAdds an additional STR debuff to the targetWe already have a HUGE int debuff, how about a STR debuff. Either way it really doesnt make it anymore desirable for any swashbuckler but at least you can say you tried to make it something new.Fencing ExpertiseIncreases Riposte damage of the swashbuckler by 10%/rank.Just remove this, nobody is going to want it....ever....I know this is slotted as a solo skill but no soloer is going to be taking this.Insight is one of our unique abilities used by all swashbucklers, how about we make it better? With that in mind replace it with something like this:Inspired FocusLowers the casting time of Insight and its upgrades by .1s/rank and Increases the duration by 1s/rank (I would even take .6s/rank).Pirates SwipeIncreases damage, reuse, and hit chance of Traumatic Swipe by 5%/rank.First off, no, we are not the only class with Traumatic Swipe. However, if you want to give us this enhancement then make it not suck....My suggestion:Increases damage and hit chance of Traumatic Swipe by 5%/rank, decreases targets accuracy by 1%/rank (or maybe double attack chance, crit chance, something that debuffs offensive).Precision StrikingWhy was this one changed to be only 5% crit increase when it was 10%, we never got an answer to that.Enfeebling WhirlDecreases INT and STR of targets in Area of Effect by 66Inflicts 1393 - 2458 melee damage on targets in area.This is one of our end line abilities, it should be awesome to me but....its not....You have further enhanced both our existing AEs to such a point that they are far better. This AE has a long casting and recast time, it does lower damage then both our existing AEs (you know, the ones we get from levels not AAs) and wont crit for as much as either of our other AEs and the debuff is useless.Yes, it does less dmg then Lucky Whirl because Lucky Whirl's recast is 30s, this one is 1m, Lucky Whirl also now has a 12.5% crit multiplier. Its WAY less damage then Swathe because almost any swashbuckler is going to be able to get 2 random peices of raid set gear and get it to a 30s recast.Decreasing a mobs STR and INT by 66 is nothing, if I lose 66 STR/INT I dont even notice it. I'm sure mobs STR and INT is such that they wouldnt either.Lets take some existing abilities that swashbucklers are known for and make them AE lets also make its damage actually worthy of a Discipline ability.With that in mind heres my replacement suggestions:Enfeebling Whirl (Lung Bleed variation) Inflicts 1800 - 3000 melee damage on targets in area of affect.Decreases Slashing, Peircing, Crushing, Ranged, Focus, Disruption, Subjugation and Ordination of targets in area of affect by 55.Recast and duration: 30 SecondsOREnfeebling Whirl (Bedazzling Steel variation)Inflicts 1800 - 3000 melee damage on targets in area of affect.Decreases Damage Per Second of Targets in Area of Affect by 40.Recast and duration: 30 SecondsOur existing AE information (1151 str): Lucky Whirl Inflicts 1373 - 2189 damage on targets in area (with the Circle of Blades AA) Recast: 30 seconds Swathe Inflicts 1639 - 2632 melee damage on targets in area (without the Flamboyant Swashbuckling AA) Native recast: 60 seconds Recast with 2 fabled set pieces: 30 seconds