Newb Question

[Traills]

<p>Ok, so I am not truely a newb but I am starting to feel like one. I have played my necro in groups normally for years now never really cared about my exact DPS. However, now I am raiding more, and seeing me in ACT really depresses me so I want to squeeze out all I can. So if someone could help me that would be great.</p><p>Raiding DPS</p><p>1) Do I use mage or scout pet? AA Spec for which one?</p><p>2) My casting order is Rot, Pan, Coil, lifetap, bats (rinse repeat) Dumbfires on longer fights</p><p>I am getting anywhere between 1900 and 2400 DPS, thanks in advance. </p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>Traills wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ok, so I am not truely a newb but I am starting to feel like one. I have played my necro in groups normally for years now never really cared about my exact DPS. However, now I am raiding more, and seeing me in ACT really depresses me so I want to squeeze out all I can. So if someone could help me that would be great.</p><p>Raiding DPS</p><p>1) Do I use mage or scout pet? AA Spec for which one?<span style="color: #ff0000;">Scout is better for burst damage but Mage will out perform it in a long fights (30 seconds or longer).  Personally I don't like having to click the extra buttons for the Scout pet in groups either so I just always use the Mage pet.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Strong Mage Spec:SummonerWIS 4/4/4/8INT 8/4/4/8  (as you get closer to the soft Int cap with gear you can move the extra 4 points around)STR 4/4/4/8</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">NecroBloodPactWarlock Pet 5 pointsUndead Horde 2 pointsLifeburn(5 points in Gluttony this buff adds quite a bit of DPS to your pet)</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">ShadowsGeneral: Health and Pet of the Gods 5 points (total power not really important)Mage: Strike of the Mage and Enchance Master Strike 5 Ponts, Bewilderment 1 pointSummoner: Minions Critical Strike 5 points, Pet Weapon Mastery 1 point(costs 5), Minion's MarkNecromancer: Minions Pact 5 points, Archlich's Lifetap 5 points, Both Endlines 4 pointsEverything else is to taste in Shadows.  Hearts, FD, Cure Enhancment, ect... all pretty useful stuff</span></p><p>2) My casting order is Rot, Pan, Coil, lifetap, bats (rinse repeat) Dumbfires on longer fights<span style="color: #ff0000;">This is a rough one.  Your casting order is a but rigid.  On a raid you want to be doing a lot more than this.Morality Mark should always come first.Macro /pet attack to one of you damage spells (I use Soul Rot)Alternate to rot every time it's up pretty much (some exceptions)Always get your Dumbfires out but cast them after you've got some DoTs tickingUse the stupid Dagger tooBasically you want to get every ounce of possible damage ticking and out at all times and keep it out while running through a casting chain.  If you never stop casting (que'd casting), you are doing it right.  At no point should you be waiting on a cooldown.Get familiar with quick a long cast spells.  Soul Rot will refresh really fast but you get gaps if you que it every other spell so you mix one long cast and one quick cast together to fill the gap completely.An example of what I mean is this:Open with Soul Rot then cast Drain Life and Morality Mark then que Soul Rot again.  Then hit Bloodcoil and Dooming Darkness que soul rot again.  Imps, Dagger, Soul Rot, Pandemic, Bloodcoil, Soul Rot, Vampire Bats, Soul Rot.  Drain Life, Bloodcoil, Soul rot, Stench, Dooming Darkness, Soul Rot... Basically keep all your spells greyed out as much as possible but time it so every qued spell starts casting the moment the previous spell has finished.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">And when the Troubador casts PoTM(make sure they are telling you) Start spamming all your fastest casting hostile spells and nothing else until PoTM wears off.  Soul Rot, Dispel, Morality Mark (click it off and on and repeat), Dooming Darkness, Dagger, Bloodcoil,  Just keep them all flying at the mob.  This will drastically increase your DPS.  If you find yourself greyed out toss in a Drain life then repeat the cycle again until PoTM is down then go back to a normal casting chain.  Any Hostile spell will make PoTM proc.  You want it to proc as much as possible.</span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p><p>I am getting anywhere between 1900 and 2400 DPS, thanks in advance. <span style="color: #ff0000;">Practice this and you'll never drop below 3k again.  If you don't have enough for the Shadows AA's just keep pushing them out.  Focus on a mix of spell crits and spell damage gear.  Get your hands on a Bloodthirsty Choker ASAP.  Get the Symbol from the old Veksar ASAP.  You want your Total Spell Damage mod to be about 50% of your Drain Life base damage.  That will make pretty much all your main DPS spells maxed out.  Everything else spell crits the more the better.  Health is more valuable to you than Power.Use +4 Crit potions and primary weapon +Crit ScrollsUse your Lifeburn and make sure you call it out so people can prepair to heal you.  Get the Troubador to hit you with jester's cap right when you start burning and it will shave a good chunk off the recast.  And don't use Lifeburn while PoTM is up you get more DPS from spamming PoTM procs than Lifeburn.Use your Undead Horde the second Lifeburn goes off so the Jester's Cap works on it too.  It's a crapton of DPS.Buff your HP's before you lifeburn.  Use Unstoppable soul on yourself.  Make sure Morality Mark is up. If you have a mystic in the raid ask for a Bolster.  Work out when you want to burn with the Troubador before hand they have to work with cooldowns and immunity so you can't just spring it on them...</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Basically Necro is the most complicated DPS class imaginable... lol</span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote>

[Traills]

<p>Thanks for the very detailed response <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I am going to respec and give it a try!</p>

[Mew]

<p>Good advice.  The only time I drop below 3K nowadays on a given fight is</p><p>a) the fight is very short so my DOTs dont have time to build</p><p>b) I don't have a troubador in my group</p><p>c) the magic/wis debuffers haven't debuffed the mob as they should</p><p>d) I went afk during the fight to refill my coffee cup <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p><p>e) I am assigned to lever clicking and shiny harvesting duty</p><p>f) the healer assigned to my group didn't see my "Lifeburn in 5 secs! Healer stand by!" message.</p><p>With the AA spec for mage pet and my mythical epic I generally see 3.5K to 4K without working too hard.  I could do better but I am a bit weak on the +dmg gear (only +350 and I should be twice that).  My unbuffed crit is about 45%.  With a troub in the group I break 50% no problem.   So, how your group is set up in the raid is important, too, as is your gear.</p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Good advice.  The only time I drop below 3K nowadays on a given fight is</p><p>a) the fight is very short so my DOTs dont have time to build</p><p>b) I don't have a troubador in my group</p><p>c) the magic/wis debuffers haven't debuffed the mob as they should</p><p>d) I went afk during the fight to refill my coffee cup <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p><p>e) I am assigned to lever clicking and shiny harvesting duty</p><p>f) the healer assigned to my group didn't see my "Lifeburn in 5 secs! Healer stand by!" message.</p><p>With the AA spec for mage pet and my mythical epic I generally see 3.5K to 4K without working too hard.  I could do better but I am a bit weak on the +dmg gear (only +350 and I should be twice that).  My unbuffed crit is about 45%.  With a troub in the group I break 50% no problem.   So, how your group is set up in the raid is important, too, as is your gear.</p></blockquote><p>I sit at 3500 to 4k (no mythical no troubador no TimeCompression no Tandem no Lifeburn).  With a troubador and a chanter I'm at 5500, without lifeburn, on any fight lasting more than 30 seconds.</p><p>I'm sitting on 75% base crits, 840 spell mod, and plenty of extras...  Dark Dealings Hood, Choker, Symbol from Veksar (actually works now), Praetor's Guard...ect.</p><p> Mewse fix yer gear =P  You should be a lot higher than that with yer Mythical...slacker =P</p>

[Traills]

<p>I am looking for the item from Veksar, is it quest based or named dropped?</p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>Traills wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I am looking for the item from Veksar, is it quest based or named dropped?</p></blockquote><p>Last named in old Veksar drops it.  Golden Mask.  It's actually a symbol item for mages.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Use your Undead Horde the second Lifeburn goes off so the Jester's Cap works on it too. </span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>actually since UH is up for a minute it won't benefit from Jcap.     need to pay close attention to your spell timers =)</p>

[Jasuo]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Use your Undead Horde the second Lifeburn goes off so the Jester's Cap works on it too. </span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>actually since UH is up for a minute it won't benefit from Jcap.     need to pay close attention to your spell timers =)</p></blockquote><p>UH's recast time begins immediately after casting thereby making use of the jcap sir.</p>

[Davngr1]

<p>double post</p>

[Davngr1]

<p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Sciomar@Unrest wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Davngr1 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><blockquote><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Use your Undead Horde the second Lifeburn goes off so the Jester's Cap works on it too. </span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span><span style="color: #ff0000;"></span></p></blockquote></blockquote><p>actually since UH is up for a minute it won't benefit from Jcap.     need to pay close attention to your spell timers =)</p></blockquote><p>UH's recast time begins immediately after casting thereby making use of the jcap sir.</p></blockquote><p>meh.  haven't raided my necro in a while.  i stand corrected</p></blockquote>

[Mew]

<p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Good advice.  The only time I drop below 3K nowadays on a given fight is</p><p>a) the fight is very short so my DOTs dont have time to build</p><p>b) I don't have a troubador in my group</p><p>c) the magic/wis debuffers haven't debuffed the mob as they should</p><p>d) I went afk during the fight to refill my coffee cup <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p><p>e) I am assigned to lever clicking and shiny harvesting duty</p><p>f) the healer assigned to my group didn't see my "Lifeburn in 5 secs! Healer stand by!" message.</p><p>With the AA spec for mage pet and my mythical epic I generally see 3.5K to 4K without working too hard.  I could do better but I am a bit weak on the +dmg gear (only +350 and I should be twice that).  My unbuffed crit is about 45%.  With a troub in the group I break 50% no problem.   So, how your group is set up in the raid is important, too, as is your gear.</p></blockquote><p>I sit at 3500 to 4k (no mythical no troubador no TimeCompression no Tandem no Lifeburn).  With a troubador and a chanter I'm at 5500, without lifeburn, on any fight lasting more than 30 seconds.</p><p>I'm sitting on 75% base crits, 840 spell mod, and plenty of extras...  Dark Dealings Hood, Choker, Symbol from Veksar (actually works now), Praetor's Guard...ect.</p><p> Mewse fix yer gear =P  You should be a lot higher than that with yer Mythical...slacker =P</p></blockquote><p>I know my gear is substandard.  Fact is I don't play my necro much anymore.  I also only raid maybe twice per week. So, for a high end raider my gear is pretty bad.  For a mostly-soloer my gear is pretty good.  And another thing - <em><strong>I drink a lot of coffee!</strong></em>  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Xil wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Good advice.  The only time I drop below 3K nowadays on a given fight is</p><p>a) the fight is very short so my DOTs dont have time to build</p><p>b) I don't have a troubador in my group</p><p>c) the magic/wis debuffers haven't debuffed the mob as they should</p><p>d) I went afk during the fight to refill my coffee cup <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" /></p><p>e) I am assigned to lever clicking and shiny harvesting duty</p><p>f) the healer assigned to my group didn't see my "Lifeburn in 5 secs! Healer stand by!" message.</p><p>With the AA spec for mage pet and my mythical epic I generally see 3.5K to 4K without working too hard.  I could do better but I am a bit weak on the +dmg gear (only +350 and I should be twice that).  My unbuffed crit is about 45%.  With a troub in the group I break 50% no problem.   So, how your group is set up in the raid is important, too, as is your gear.</p></blockquote><p>I sit at 3500 to 4k (no mythical no troubador no TimeCompression no Tandem no Lifeburn).  With a troubador and a chanter I'm at 5500, without lifeburn, on any fight lasting more than 30 seconds.</p><p>I'm sitting on 75% base crits, 840 spell mod, and plenty of extras...  Dark Dealings Hood, Choker, Symbol from Veksar (actually works now), Praetor's Guard...ect.</p><p> Mewse fix yer gear =P  You should be a lot higher than that with yer Mythical...slacker =P</p></blockquote><p>I know my gear is substandard.  Fact is I don't play my necro much anymore.  I also only raid maybe twice per week. So, for a high end raider my gear is pretty bad.  For a mostly-soloer my gear is pretty good.  And another thing - <em><strong>I drink a lot of coffee!</strong></em>  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>Lol</p><p>Really though you don't need high end raid gear to do it though.  Just teir 1 and some pieces from Hate.  And really with the new fables that drop in TSO you don't even need those anymore.  The legendary shard sets are both complete garbage for summoners but the fabled conjy/necro set is sekc.  And it drops of fairly easy group mobs.</p>

[TumpieBrell]

<p>Where does the fabled set drop? Is it raid gear, or just random from TSO instance named?</p><p>Oh and what's it called, I'd like to look it up.</p>

[Xil]

<p><cite>TumpieBrell wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Where does the fabled set drop? Is it raid gear, or just random from TSO instance named?</p><p>Oh and what's it called, I'd like to look it up.</p></blockquote><p>It's not a "set" in the sense that it has a set bonus.  It's just a full set of armor with the same name.  Summoner's (armorpiece) of Spectral Fury.  And I haven't been able to look them up anywhere yet.  There's a similar fabled set for all archetypes as well.</p><p>It's TSO group instance drops.  The pieces drop from yellow and red con instances only.  No easy instances drop these fabled armor Pieces.  Shoulders, Robe, and leggs haven't been disco'd yet last I checked.</p><p>There is probably still a thread on flames with all this armor listed.  But as far as looking it up through LootDB EQ2i ect... you won't find much.  The Summoner's Cuffs of Spectral Fury show up in LootDB but that's pretty much it for now.</p>