Roadyle's Identity Revealed! (Spoilerish/Image heavy)

[Themaginator]

<p>This is a book that you get from a quest in Miragul's Phylactery: The Crucible. Read on for the final story on Roadyle's indentity!</p><p><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/BigAl55/Mira0.jpg?t=1227433401" width="704" height="508" /></p><p><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/BigAl55/Mira.jpg?t=1227433048" width="690" height="519" /></p><p><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/BigAl55/Mira2.jpg?t=1227433176" width="704" height="522" /></p><p><img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y20/BigAl55/Mira3.jpg?t=1227433300" width="702" height="518" /></p><p>Disguss! =P</p><p>And if you dont feel like reading, in short(highlight below)</p><p><span style="color: #000000;">Miragul = Roadyle</span></p><p>Craziness!!</p>

[steelbadger]

<p>Well.  That answers that then.</p><p>Jolly good.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p>Can't say I saw that coming, but at least it's not Mayong like everyone thought.</p><p>I kinda wished Time Travel wasn't involved, but whatever.. it still took place before the Erudite's existance, and it's good enough of a story for me.</p>

[ke'la]

<p><cite>Cusashorn wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Can't say I saw that coming, but at least it's not Mayong like everyone thought.</p><p>I kinda wished Time Travel wasn't involved, but whatever.. it still took place before the Erudite's existance, and it's good enough of a story for me.</p></blockquote><p>My original Theroy was Miguel, however I let the others talk me into Mayong... I don't know why, looking back.</p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span >My original Theroy was Miguel, however I let the others talk me into Mayong... I don't know why, looking back.</span></blockquote><p>Because it was a reasonable suspicion to have.  There are only so many entities that powerful that would be that cold to the touch, as if they were dead.  Mayong and Miragul are the only two I can think of that would have been around at that point.</p>

[Coniaric]

<p>Very good. That confirmed that it was Miragul who appeared in front of Illisia and other two. That's what I had believed in first place.</p><p>What's wrong with time travel? Cusashorn, you appeared more resistant to being open to any possilities. With magic, anything usually can be done. What's important is that Erudites do exist, and will exist. Thus Miragul existed.</p><p>It's interesting, though, that Roadyle is Miragul. Mayong made more sense as he has more interest in the fate of Norrath over Miragul who just want to expand his power and knowledge for himself. Mayong existed around the time of the Ethernauts and Miragul was from our time. It was a reasonable assumption.</p><p>At least the revelation explained why the Ring of Scale didn't recognize Miragul's usage of magic. They didn't know about the Erudites until some centuries later.</p><p>That still leave some questions, I think ... what was Miragul doing with the Ethernauts? Why had he stayed with them on their journey? What was he after?</p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>That still leave some questions, I think ... what was Miragul doing with the Ethernauts? Why had he stayed with them on their journey? What was he after?</p></blockquote><p>Maybe he knew of Anashti Sul.  Maybe he thought there might be knowledge to acquire along the way that would aid him in finding a cure for death without the troubling side effects.</p><p>Remember though, that Miragul had several alter egos, and now we know him to be a time-traveler as well.  His obsession with living forever has been mirrored at other points in history, and at least one of those times, there was a connection to the Void too.  I don't think we've heard the last of Miragul's escapades.</p>

[Cusashorn]

<p><cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>At least the revelation explained why the Ring of Scale didn't recognize Miragul's usage of magic. They didn't know about the Erudites until some centuries later.<p>That still leave some questions, I think ... what was Miragul doing with the Ethernauts? Why had he stayed with them on their journey? What was he after?</p></blockquote><p>Yeah that's the issue I had. He traveled back in time to a point before his own race even existed. He could have easily altered the entire course of history with just that alone.</p><p>He was interested in the Scryona, of course. You remember him always arguing with Asharae about it's mysteries. He seeks out all things magic to better understand how everything works.</p>

[troodon]

<p><cite>Coniaric wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>What's wrong with time travel?</p></blockquote><p>Look at EQ1</p>

[KniteShayd]

<p>Ok, so that answers my question of how it could be him.</p><p>Hmm, riding the ether to travel time.  This opens new possibilities to revisit the planes of old.  Even, dare I say it?, ..., Luclin.</p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>Bandorn@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Even, dare I say it?, ..., Luclin.</p></blockquote><p>I'm all for it.  There's a lot of unexplored possibilities there, <em><strong>especially</strong></em> if we go back in time to do it.</p>

[Lodrelhai]

<p><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Bandorn@Venekor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Even, dare I say it?, ..., Luclin.</p></blockquote><p>I'm all for it.  There's a lot of unexplored possibilities there, <em><strong>especially</strong></em> if we go back in time to do it.</p></blockquote><p>And now I'm seeing some time-travel instanced mission where we go back in time to a whole Luclin and end up blowing it up ourselves.</p><p>Never watch Doctor Who before visiting the lore forums...</p>

[Giraku]

<p>Miragul didn't change history by doing this,because, very simply, he was meant to do it. by the time he was born the ethernauts. "Roadyle" included, had already gone and done their epic journey, so in a way he had to travel back to fill the role, because he had already done it.</p><p>...Aren't Time paradoxes fun?</p>

[Noaani]

<p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>And now I'm seeing some time-travel instanced mission where we go back in time to a whole Luclin and end up blowing it up ourselves.</blockquote><p>That would be <em><strong>the</strong></em> coolest twist this game could introduce.</p><p>One other thing I would love to see, although I doubt anyone else would, is a quest that sends you back in time 500 years to the time of EQ1, to (insert event of importance in EQ1 here). When you zone in to whatever instance, it uses the graphics from EQ1, even if it is a straight cut/paste from that game into this (which would probably not be possible).</p><p>IMO, if done once, it would be cool, if done more than that it would be cheap and tacky.</p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>And now I'm seeing some time-travel instanced mission where we go back in time to a whole Luclin and end up blowing it up ourselves.</blockquote><p>That would be <em><strong>the</strong></em> coolest twist this game could introduce.</p><p>One other thing I would love to see, although I doubt anyone else would, is a quest that sends you back in time 500 years to the time of EQ1, to (insert event of importance in EQ1 here). When you zone in to whatever instance, it uses the graphics from EQ1, even if it is a straight cut/paste from that game into this (which would probably not be possible).</p><p>IMO, if done once, it would be cool, if done more than that it would be cheap and tacky.</p></blockquote><p>Cool idea, yeah, but I'm not sure the different graphics engines would really allow for it.</p><p>On the other hand, though, I kinda like seeing places like that with a fresher face.</p>

[DrkVsr]

<p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: comic sans ms,sans-serif;">Yeah, really don't think you could use the original graphics in this game, either the zones or NPCs (it's the same as why the graphics from EQ2 won't work with EQ1)</span></p><p><span style="font-size: medium; color: #993300; font-family: Comic Sans MS;">But it would be nice to see actual EQ1 zones get the EQ2 treatment and not the current re-working of some 'old' zones (aka Steamfont) or a look at zones that never actually existed back then (aka Cauldron Hollow)</span></p>

[Illine]

<p><cite>Noaani wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Lodrelhai wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>And now I'm seeing some time-travel instanced mission where we go back in time to a whole Luclin and end up blowing it up ourselves.</blockquote><p>That would be <em><strong>the</strong></em> coolest twist this game could introduce.</p><p>One other thing I would love to see, although I doubt anyone else would, is a quest that sends you back in time 500 years to the time of EQ1, to (insert event of importance in EQ1 here). When you zone in to whatever instance, it uses the graphics from EQ1, even if it is a straight cut/paste from that game into this (which would probably not be possible).</p><p>IMO, if done once, it would be cool, if done more than that it would be cheap and tacky.</p></blockquote><p>There was an old game like that.</p><p>Day of the tentacle. You could play to another game (maniac mansion??) in the game with crappy graphic like the old game (I think both were related). It was fun. but can it be done now? I don't know.</p><p>anyway Why play in an old environment very flat when you can play in a new one with more curves.  .. If we have to go back in time, fine but with EQ2 graphics. if people want EQ1 graphics, let's go back to EQ1 ... remember, not every player has played EQ1 <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Apocroph]

<p>Did anyone else notice the sudden shift in Miragul's backstory with this book?</p><p>Until just recently, we'd been led to believe that Miragul's imprisonment within his phylactery was an experiment gone wrong.  Now we have him telling us that he sort of "found his way" into the Eternal Prism, and he doesn't seem too upset about it.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>I'm not super familiar with the pre-existing Lore surrounding Miragul and his phylactery, but I believe that up until now we only had the "external" view of what happened in that story.  People witnessing the results of his actions, snippets of information from people whom Miragul interacted with, etc.</p><p>Now we are hearing the story from Miragul himself . . . more or less.  That could easily explain the shift.</p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm not super familiar with the pre-existing Lore surrounding Miragul and his phylactery, but I believe that up until now we only had the "external" view of what happened in that story.  People witnessing the results of his actions, snippets of information from people whom Miragul interacted with, etc.</p><p>Now we are hearing the story from Miragul himself . . . more or less.  That could easily explain the shift.</p></blockquote><p>I guess I'd never known where the old Miragul lore came from, so I sorta treated it as having come from an omniscient narrator-ish perspective.  I just remember it explaining it like it was a mistake on his part, rather than something he was complicit in.</p>

[ke'la]

<p>Unlike other games, EQ2 does not have much "Narator" lore instead we are part of the story, as such we only know stuff from our charactor's perspective.</p>

[Wilin]

<p>Yet another quote from my past, 2 months ago:</p><p><cite>Wilin wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>(Removed lots of background info on Miragul)</p><p>......</p><p>Then add to that the Seeress prophesy:</p><p>"The tomb of the hound hides the prism of a timeless betrayer"</p><p>And then the Hound of Zek lore story about the "Visitor" which seemed to be a mage of many abilities, the shard that Illisia uses to escape, and the fact that a timeless betrayer could easily be the lich, Miragul.</p><p>------</p><p>And now, the latest excerpt that shows Roadyle feeding off of the Scryona.</p><p>------</p><p>Result: </p><p>Roadyle = Miragul</p><p>Identity mystery solved. I'm just showing the supporting documentation that brought me to the same conclusion. Now we just have to wait for SOE to confirm that we're right. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>And now it's confirmed. Thanks for playing. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Apocroph]

<p><cite>kela wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><span >Unlike other games, EQ2 does not have much "Narator" lore instead we are part of the story, as such we only know stuff from our charactor's perspective.</span></blockquote><p>I was talking about the old Miragul lore from EQlive, not EQ2, and the perspective there is ambiguous.</p>

[Foolsfolly]

<p>Time travel would be one way to bring Luclin back..but personally I'm just hoping that the goddess Luclin will restore it. If she could keep it habitable for so long, then surely she could have preserved the various species of luclin on the larger chunks that stayed up there, in little pockets of air and gravity. And eventually she could manage to pull the remaining pieces back together and restore the ecosystem. Sure the buildings would all be in ruins, and the factions would have shifted in power,  but much of Norrath's favorite moon could reasonably be salvaged.</p><p>It might even end up something similar to the kingdom of sky, with various islands floating around containing the remnants of Luclin.</p>

[Meirril]

<p><cite>kuraan wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Did anyone else notice the sudden shift in Miragul's backstory with this book?</p><p>Until just recently, we'd been led to believe that Miragul's imprisonment within his phylactery was an experiment gone wrong.  Now we have him telling us that he sort of "found his way" into the Eternal Prism, and he doesn't seem too upset about it.</p></blockquote><p>Don't you find it a bit odd that Miragul isn't upset about being cut off from any new sources of magic? The only source of new information that he has is adventurers invading his phalacery. He doesn't seem to anticipate player actions, rather he simply reacts to the destruction of his memories. To me this says that the phalacery is his real tomb, not the extention of his life.</p><p>He isn't growing, he isn't creating, he isn't furthering his research. He is dead. All that is left is the memories of the being that was Miragul, the greatest mage in Norrath. I see the new instances as a confirmation of what was written in EQ1. Miragul was lured into what became a trap for him.</p><p>I suppose, if dev wanted to use Miragul further they could write in that the adventurer's tampering with the eternal crystal could actually free Miragul from his perdicament. With his knowledge of all 4 forms of currently used magic I'm sure he could manage to take over the body of a newly deseased adventurer...</p><p>I wonder if he knows geomancy?</p>