Rewards from A Higher Purpose misprogrammed?

[Pharoahmax]

<p>Two of the rewards from the quest A higher Purpose seem to have been programmed wrong.  One of them gives 2% spell crit but the proc triggers from beneficial spells (Survival Accord Beacon), and the one that gives 2% heal crit procs from hostile spells (Survival Accord *I am unsure of the rest of the name of the item*).  The one with spell crit should proc off of hostile spells and the one with heal crit should proc off of beneficial spells.  I am unsure if the items were intended this way or not.  If it is the case they are intended to be this way, then we should be allowed to do a one time swap for the one we would find the most useful to our class.  I didn't have a clue of which one to choose with my necromancer.  I went with the spell crit item hoping this would be fixed like the bangle of thuuga.  Could a dev please look into this so others will not be as stumped as I was when choosing their reward?  Thank you for your time.</p><p>Edited because it tried to post it before I was finished typing out my thoughts.</p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p>

[Pharoahmax]

<p>Thanks kindly Fyreflyte.</p>

[Gwynet]

<p>I was going to post about this... I take it it didn't make this morning's update?</p>

[Zelldeb]

<p>im glad this issue is being addressed, any idea when it will be implemented?</p>

[Miyana95]

<p>Oops I just petitioned this.  Glad to see it's getting fixed. </p>

[de lori]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p></blockquote><p>well ya see.....why would i pick 2 crit that has a beneficial proc?.....i picked the item that HAD the offensive proc....what ya gonna do about that?</p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p><cite>Charayne@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p></blockquote><p>well ya see.....why would i pick 2 crit that has a beneficial proc?.....i picked the item that HAD the offensive proc....what ya gonna do about that?</p></blockquote><p>"I" am going to do nothing =) You're welcome to petition a GM and see if they'll swap it out for you. Or you can keep your 2 heal crit. Either way the proc will still work for you.</p>

[Naughtesn]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Charayne@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p></blockquote><p>well ya see.....why would i pick 2 crit that has a beneficial proc?.....i picked the item that HAD the offensive proc....what ya gonna do about that?</p></blockquote><p>"I" am going to do nothing =) You're welcome to petition a GM and see if they'll swap it out for you. Or you can keep your 2 heal crit. Either way the proc will still work for you.</p></blockquote><p>/snap</p>

[Banditman]

<p>No, it actually won't still work for him.</p><p>He picked the item with 2 Heal Crit and the offensive based proc.  After the switch/fix, he'll have an item with 2 Heal Crit and a proc based on casting beneficial spells.</p><p>It would seem prudent to add a vendor who will accept one of these items as payment for choosing a different one.  Otherwise the GM's will be flooded with requests to change the items out for a TON of people.</p>

[Gwynet]

<p>Yeah I agree... Had I not read this post I would probably have waited to turn in that quest honestly, not knowing how the fix would take place... but yes, there should be a vendor for that.</p>

[Gwynet]

<p>Wondering when we'll see that fix?</p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p><cite>Banditman wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>No, it actually won't still work for him.</p><p>He picked the item with 2 Heal Crit and the offensive based proc. After the switch/fix, he'll have an item with 2 Heal Crit and a proc based on casting beneficial spells.</p></blockquote><p>Yes it will. As I mentioned in another thread on this topic, I changed the healer item to proc off of spells and attacks, since an offensive effect procing off a beneficial spell is rather difficult to create (who does the effect target in that case?)</p>

[Banditman]

<p>I was thinking in terms of a "healer" proc being something more like the Orb of Truth combined with Manawell sort of thing, so it procs when you cast beneficials.</p>

[Zelldeb]

<p>you could always just do like the thugga quest, and make it so if you delete or vendor the first item u got you can hail the npc again and pick a new one, albiet you have already completed the quest before the fix of course.</p><p>did this fix go in already, im at work atm, guess ill find out when i get home <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p><p>i looked for this other post u mentioned btw, and all i found was one where u said "fixed" but when i was on yesterday raiding, my +2% spell crit item still had a benefical proc.  am i missing something?</p><p>thanks again for addressing this</p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p><cite>Zelldeb wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>you could always just do like the thugga quest, and make it so if you delete or vendor the first item u got you can hail the npc again and pick a new one, albiet you have already completed the quest before the fix of course.</p></blockquote><p>The THugga quest fix took someone an enitre day to implement and allowed players to exploit it for multiple rewards. It caused quite a few additional problems for GMs as well, so it was by no means an elegant fix. I wish there were an easier way to replace quest rewards, but currently my best option is to simply make sure most people aren't going to need to swap out for a different one.</p>

[Zelldeb]

<p>i was unaware that that fix caused you all so many problems, oh well, it's too bad people take advantage like that but what can you do.</p><p>however i am still confused on the fact as to whether or not the items are going to get changed or if they already have been, i chose the +2 spell crit after reading this post assuming u ment to change the effect to proc on hostile spells, do i just need to wait for you to do this, or do i need to petition to get the heal crit one so i can have a hostile spell proc?</p>

[Zelldeb]

<p>woot its fixed now <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />  my +2 spell crit item has a hostile spell proc</p>

[wullailhuit]

<p><cite>Zelldeb wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>woot its fixed now <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />  my +2 spell crit item has a hostile spell proc</p></blockquote><p>Not on Splitpaw which has been missed out yet again...</p>

[AdamWest007]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Charayne@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p></blockquote><p>well ya see.....why would i pick 2 crit that has a beneficial proc?.....i picked the item that HAD the offensive proc....what ya gonna do about that?</p></blockquote><p>"I" am going to do nothing =) You're welcome to petition a GM and see if they'll swap it out for you. Or you can keep your 2 heal crit. Either way the proc will still work for you.</p></blockquote><p>tact<span ><strong>:</strong> a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense</span></p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p><cite>AdamWest007 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>tact<span><strong>:</strong> a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense</span></p></blockquote><p>If someone is curt with me, they're likely to get a curt response. What I said was in no way disrespectful; I was merely blunt. If I want to actually get work done, I have to limit my time on the forums.</p>

[glowsintheda]

<p>Was looking at the rewards and was wondering if it was intentional that there is one with melee double attack and one with melee crit, but none with any ranged version of those stats?  From what I have seen so far items have been a lot better with having both melee and ranged stats on them, or equivalent items available and was hoping that this could be looked at and one of the melee options changed to ranged, or a ranged one simply added.  Thanks for your time.</p>

[Fyreflyte]

<p>I'm not sure why a ranged bonus wasn't added, but I'll look into that on Monday =)</p>

[de lori]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>AdamWest007 wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>tact<span><strong>:</strong> a keen sense of what to do or say in order to maintain good relations with others or avoid offense</span></p></blockquote><p>If someone is curt with me, they're likely to get a curt response. What I said was in no way disrespectful; I was merely blunt. If I want to actually get work done, I have to limit my time on the forums.</p></blockquote><p>Same goes here....no disrespect intended just a blunt question to an obvious problem with changing item procs....to which i got the blunt answer i was after....which i appreciate.</p>

[glowsintheda]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I'm not sure why a ranged bonus wasn't added, but I'll look into that on Monday =)</p></blockquote><p>Thank you, will hold off finishing it for a while then so that I don't have to deal with having rewards swapped.</p>

[glowsintheda]

<p>Was wondering if there was any news on the possibility of adding a ranged based reward for this quest line.  Thanks</p>

[Vonotar]

<p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Charayne@Kithicor wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Fyreflyte wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Those do look like they had their effects accidentally swapped. I'm fixing them so that the +spell crit badge will use the offensive effect.</p></blockquote><p>well ya see.....why would i pick 2 crit that has a beneficial proc?.....i picked the item that HAD the offensive proc....what ya gonna do about that?</p></blockquote><p>"I" am going to do nothing =) You're welcome to petition a GM and see if they'll swap it out for you. Or you can keep your 2 heal crit. Either way the proc will still work for you.</p></blockquote><p>Just out of interest, but when dev's make sweeping statements like this, I always wonder if they actually speak to CS and ensure that they/the GM's are entirely familiar with the fact that a mistake was made and that they may receive petitions.</p><p>Or do you just leave it to the poor player to try and explain to the GM what the issue is, and why that GM should care about it.</p><p>This is a classic case of the problem with customer service within SoE, now if the place I worked had the same atitudes we would be out of business, but then that is because there are at least 5 other major names in the industry selling the exact same services (exactly the same, no difference!), whereas nobody else sells EQ2, so SoE has no real competition.</p>