Prophet of Anashti Sul MIA? [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

Apocroph

11-18-2008, 04:18 PM

<cite>Chiyoiche@Antonia Bayle wrote:</cite><blockquote>yea <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" /> her avatar i guess you would call it has to be smooshed. supposed to spanw around were meathooks is. havent seen it up yet tho</blockquote>No, she has to be defeated in the Void first. Her avatar and prophet spawn in SS after her defeat in the Palace of the Ancient One. Plumetor Dul'Sadma's inital dialogue explains the whole thing.Plumetor Dul'Sadma says to you, "No, my little feather, she was not destroyed. Although what happened to her in the Void was not part of her plans, that event will work into the favor of all of us. You see, the victory of those who fought her in that palace merely snapped her tether to the Void itself, catapulting her back to our world!"

Chiyoiche

11-18-2008, 07:13 PM

oh, its a raid zone right? wonder whos gonna get to her first?

shadowedwolf

11-19-2008, 03:22 AM

so then... i gotta wait for a raid group to fight her before i can even worship her.... well that isn't any fun. :/ that could be days..... /cry

Apocroph

11-19-2008, 11:30 AM

Yes, and yes. It's a raid, and it has to be beaten on your server before the prophet will spawn.What I personally find most interesting is what the ramifications of this could be for the shadowed men and the rest of the inhabitants of the Void.

Kiris420

11-28-2008, 05:04 AM

Not to sound like a whiner..but Sony, do not add Dieties like this anymore please. I really don't like knowing I can't continue with a new diety because I have to wait for others on my server to unlock it for me. I don't mind if you made the quest hard, something a group would need to complete.I don't mind world events that unlock new things, as long as EVERYONE can be involved. But not everyone, at least on my server can be involved in the unlocking of this. Instead the top 1% of the game again gets to do the fun stuff. Raiders have their place, and they earn their trinkets, but don't let their ability to play hours I can't be the determining factor on if I can partake in something like Diety's.The raid guilds arent even interested in doing it on BB from what Ive seen in the 80/70-79 channel, reasons unknown. So because the top 1% of the server decides it isn't in there best interest to push for it *(why would it be anyway? Its a Diety)* then the rest of your popluation gets to sit on its hands and wait. I purposely didn't choose another diety because I wanted to wait. Imagine my surprise when I searched all over SS only to find out I won't be seeing the prophet until other players "allow" me to.

Mystfit

11-28-2008, 09:29 AM

I'm kinda anxious too. My duaghter came back to the game for a bit and the first thing that hits her in the face is what she considers the coolest diety for her character. She leaves her current diety and rushes to start the new series only to hit this roadblock. Test baloons into level chat show zero interest from those who have a shot at unlocking the event.

Banditman

11-28-2008, 10:13 AM

There is plenty of interest from raiders in taking her down in PotAO. It's simply a matter of reality. The reality is that certain mechanics have been added to the raid game, and it's going to take the raiding community a while to re-gear for this expansion.Don't worry, she'll go down, because frankly she is *the* choice for evil side DPS raiders.

LadyGalasya

11-28-2008, 12:03 PM

the point is that to worship a diety, that everyone in theory (at least evil people) could worship, we (non-raiders) have to wait for raiders to gear up, then work out a strat and then execute that strat nearly perfectly....all just to start the diety quest for a diety that we (as non-raiders) want to worship....kind of stupid TBH

Chiyoiche

11-28-2008, 02:27 PM

im rather flustered over this too...on AB still no Anashti.../sigh one of the biggest things i was looking forward to in this EP...and zip...i havent even heard anything yet if anyone has found her either...

Apocroph

11-28-2008, 03:13 PM

Look, Anashti's return to Norrath is a significant plot development. As we learn from Plumetor's dialogue when you first talk to her, Anashti is freed from the Void as a result of her defeat in her Palace.There are two ways she could have become a deity option:1) She can be automagically unlocked by defeating her in the Void.2) She can be added in a patch setting up the next expansion.Either way, there is a plot advancement requirement that has to be met before her becoming available makes sense. She was trying to destroy Norrath as revenge for her exile. She's not going to be very benevolent toward any of her enemies' creations unless she's not trapped in the Void anymore.So you have your choices: You can wait for a raid, or you can wait most of a year for the next expansion. Either way, her current story arc has to have time to finish before we can start her next one.

M0rticia

11-28-2008, 05:40 PM

I like the raid idea, quite honestly. I am in a raiding guild and we have discussed completing this raid zone sooner than we had planned. We're still working on getting a few folks their mythicals in VP so we have been raiding there quite a bit lately and haven't really touched the TSO raid zones yet.I mentioned trying this raid to my guildmates and there was a lot of interest. Just because it is to unlock a deity, doesn't mean there won't be awesome loot in that zone. So even raiders that don't care about unlocking a deity or care about lore/questlines, still have a reason to go in there.You also have to take into account that a raid might wipe several times in a new zone, until they get the group setup, mob behaviour, etc. figured out. So just because a guild goes in there, it doesn't mean the deity will be unlocked. Most guilds keep trying though. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />There have been several times when we entered a new raid zone and wiped repeatedly. By then it was getting late, so we called the raid and went back on the next raid day to try it again! Some guilds might actually be trying this raid but just haven't gotten all the mechanics down yet. A lot of the raiding guilds I know (and I assume ones on other servers) might actually be keeping this information secret because they want to be the first to complete it and don't want other guilds to start trying the zone as well. If you see no mention/interest of it on level chat, that doesn't mean that no guild is working on this zone.I know for non-raiders or people that are anxious it sucks to wait. Surely some guild on your servers will be trying this soon. I know we will. Believe me, I want to be able to worship Anashti Sul as well but I can be patient until my guild can get this done (hopefully we will be the first...but if not, that's okay too!) <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Kiris420

11-28-2008, 09:19 PM

I don't mind waiting. Like I said earlier, I don't mind if it isn't unlocked on launch. What I do mind is that for (random statistics inc!) 98%+ of the game, we have to wait on the other 1-2% of the game to complete a zone so we can partake in part of the expansion we ALL paid for.I don't mind if Raiders have raid zones I will never see. I don't mind if raiders get items I can never get. I do mind if they put in dieties that we all have been waiting for, and then require the smallest percentage of player (raid players) to complete it for us like we are helpless welps who can't do anything until our big brothers come in and beat up the mob for us.I don't want to hear about PUG raids either, we all know why that idea is a farce for doing something like this.How about instead of taking the easy way out for this they didn't make it a world event? Its like the Jedi thing in SWG, "Hey we got this awesome plan for how you unlock the Jedi class! It will go over the course of your whole career and take you across many planets" and it turned out we just had to grind different professions until we found the secret ingredient combo for our character. Instead have all of us involved. Have us all help. Have us take part and don't leave it up to a small percentage of your userbase. If it was a raid only diety fine, or raid only reward fine. But it isn't. All I was asking for was some more thought into the design for this story arc instead of just making a big baddie that only super geared mmo-superstars can kill.

Xalmat

11-28-2008, 10:14 PM

Quit your whining. We knew that Anashti Sul would be unlocked on a server-by-server basis as far back as Fan Faire (August 2008).She will be going down, it's just a matter of time.

Burnout

11-28-2008, 10:41 PM

what most people simply seem to ignore is - the palace zone is HARD. raidguilds didn't kill her yet not because they don't want to. palace is a normal itemized raidzone. but it's HARD. again - it's a hard zone. no guild simply managed it yet to reach her inside palace, not to mention killing her...so before you talk of raidissues you can't judge - get yourself informed first. it'll take some time till even the top guilds manage to kill her. and btw - the frogs in old days have been activated server wide by a raid quest too...

Snowdonia

11-28-2008, 11:30 PM

Apocroph

11-28-2008, 11:50 PM

<cite>kuraan wrote:</cite><blockquote>Look, Anashti's return to Norrath is a significant plot development. As we learn from Plumetor's dialogue when you first talk to her, Anashti is freed from the Void as a result of her defeat in her Palace.There are two ways she could have become a deity option:1) She can be automagically unlocked by defeating her in the Void.2) She can be added in a patch setting up the next expansion.Either way, there is a plot advancement requirement that has to be met before her becoming available makes sense. She was trying to destroy Norrath as revenge for her exile. She's not going to be very benevolent toward any of her enemies' creations unless she's not trapped in the Void anymore.So you have your choices: You can wait for a raid, or you can wait most of a year for the next expansion. Either way, her current story arc has to have time to finish before we can start her next one.</blockquote>Quoting myself for emphasis, since everybody is more interested in ignoring the reasoning.Anashti does not care about you right now. She wants to destroy Norrath as revenge for her exile to the Void. She'd just as soon kill you for being a creation of the gods that put her there. She is fighting for her very existence.Until her current story arc completes, you are of absolutely no use to her, and as such, she doesn't care about you. Once she is free of the Void, your worship will be instrumental in returning her to a place of power, and then she might give a [Removed for Content] about you.So like I said, you have your choices:Wait a month for a raid to beat her, or wait most of a year for Sony to start setting up the story for the next expansion, completing her current storyline in the process.Either way, stop complaining. No amount of whining and complaining is going to change the mechanics of her return now.

Lauransa

11-29-2008, 12:46 AM

ok the only thing id like to know if there is a listing SOMEWHERE that says which servers have unlocked her?

Paladin776

11-29-2008, 05:19 AM

<cite>Snowdonia@Runnyeye wrote:</cite><blockquote>And has the froglok access quest series been changed? Becuase as it is now and as it has been since I started playing over two years ago, there are no raids required to get through the froglok series and "unlock" frogloks for you (we still get the message when they would have become available to you). You are granted access BEFORE you are given a quest that requires raiding (which, IIRC, only gives you a title after completing). Heck, I wish they would have done Anashti like they did the Froglok unlocking, least that would have made sense.</blockquote>There is no need to do the Froglok access quest any longer because, due to some raiding guild or raid force, the race was unlocked for the entire server. The quests are still in place and still do the same events in fly-text or chat, but it's just an extra quest to do now, if one wishes to.The same will hold true for Anashti Sul. Once a raiding guild/force defeats her in the Void, she'll become available for the entire server. As was stated before, there is a storyline with Anashti Sul that needs to be completed before her presence is known on Norrath, and has been a driving story line since the game released back in 2004. We're only now starting to realize the reasons for the existence of the Void and it's entry into our plane of existence, and apparently, she is a part of it.The frogloks, on the other hand, didn't have a story that tied into the entire game like the Void does, so it made sense to grant a sense of accomplishment to those that went out of their way to help the frogloks, that being the ability to create your own froglok before anyone that didn't do the quest line did. (And no, some people didn't think that was fair back then, either.)To anyone that stays informed on the game and where it's going, it was no secret that the deity would have to be unlocked before she could be worshipped. While some people won't agree with the way she needs to be released, that's what we'll have to wait for. It's possible that, in the event that it takes longer for raid guilds to get her down than was originally figured, we may see a change to it, but until that happens, it's a matter of wait and see.

Kiris420

11-29-2008, 08:43 AM

<cite>Xalmat wrote:</cite><blockquote>Quit your whining. We knew that Anashti Sul would be unlocked on a server-by-server basis as far back as Fan Faire (August 200<img src="/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />.She will be going down, it's just a matter of time.</blockquote>Ill stop giving my feedback when you reimburse me for the last 5 years of my subscription rates, and start paying my future rates. Until that day, I will continue to post feedback, in the correct forum under the correct topic. Thanks drive through.

Kiris420

11-29-2008, 08:51 AM

<cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>what most people simply seem to ignore is - the palace zone is HARD. raidguilds didn't kill her yet not because they don't want to. palace is a normal itemized raidzone. but it's HARD. again - it's a hard zone. no guild simply managed it yet to reach her inside palace, not to mention killing her...so before you talk of raidissues you can't judge - get yourself informed first. it'll take some time till even the top guilds manage to kill her. and btw - the frogs in old days have been activated server wide by a raid quest too...</blockquote>No one is ignoring it.We just don't believe that we as a seperate slice of the player base should sit on our hands, with our thumbs placed in our rears waiting for you guys, the raiding force on each server to gear up, learn the new encounters, and finish them. Instead we think something like this, an addition of a new diety, should be something the whole server community takes part in.I will also let you know, I have been involved in EQ2 since friends and family. I was there for when they changed combat with a month to go, changed how classes worked with a week to go, I know about the froglock quest, I know how raids work. This isn't about being uninformed, its just that maybe "YOU" are ignoring what the real issue is that people have, or you just read half of peoples posts then reply with out actually reading the whole thing? Dunno. No one cares if you raid, or that you have uberswordofnerdshippwnedface. Some of us actually like the lore and want to be involved in it, not just go into a raid zone so we can stack our fabled items and mythicals and talk about how everyone else just doesn't know what they are talking about.I used to raid, but working on a new IP and a new baby has forced me to have hours that prevent that at this time. So before YOU go talking about something you can't "judge", might want to understand what the real complaint is from people like myself. To you the game may be about loot, or seeing cool new zones (and for it when I have time it is also) but for a lot of people its about the quests, and the story and thats why people have issue with how these dieties are unlocked.if you guys don't want to read complaints or suggestions then I would advise not to read the forums anymore. You know, the place where we are supposed to give our opinions about Quests and live events.

Burnout

11-29-2008, 10:37 AM

you're base complain is clear - you want everything without having anything involved that needs something to be done, that is out of your direct influence. i didn't comment that cause it's useless... i only commented the part some posted, that they think raidforces don't want to / don't focus on it & that is causing a delay - which is just wrong.having her unlocked by a raidpart fits into the lore, fits into tso and it's a nice piece for raiders - tso is so extremly grp content heavy, that i doubt you have nothing else to do then this one diety quest. so why not saying thx soe for a 95% grp 5% raid expansion and wait a bit on this one singel issue?

Kiris420

11-29-2008, 10:09 PM

<cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>you're base complain is clear - you want everything without having anything involved that needs something to be done, that is out of your direct influence. i didn't comment that cause it's useless... i only commented the part some posted, that they think raidforces don't want to / don't focus on it & that is causing a delay - which is just wrong.having her unlocked by a raidpart fits into the lore, fits into tso and it's a nice piece for raiders - tso is so extremly grp content heavy, that i doubt you have nothing else to do then this one diety quest. so why not saying thx soe for a 95% grp 5% raid expansion and wait a bit on this one singel issue?</blockquote>guess my complaint wasn't as clear as you thought because thats not true. Not even close to true.I do not want THE WHOLE UNLOCK only directly influenced by ONE raid group. If they are doing live event quests like this to unlock things the whole server uses, make it something the WHOLE SERVER HELPS WITH.Got it? Clear enough? I don't care if the LAST mob in the quest series is a raid, fine. But my complaint is more that the only thing you do to unlock her is a raid... yea real epic, real "story driven". If I here that excuse one more time I am going to laugh myself to sleep. There is no story involved when all you have to kill is clear her zone and take out an avatar.That should be the completion step to a world even that involves crafters, soloers, group content, and a final raid to kick it all off. What does this do? It gives those of us who don't have raid guilds, or raid playtimes to contribute to the overall unlock, instead of doing what I said, which is sit on our butts twiddling our thumbs while the raiders gear up and get ready to go.

Phank

11-30-2008, 07:18 PM

Anashti Sul was defeated in Palace of the Ancient One last night on my server, but the prophet is not up in Sinking Sands today.What is the time frame on this diety quest unlocking once the mob has been defeated in Raid?

Snowdonia

11-30-2008, 08:10 PM

Which server is that? As for time frame, no idea since even in beta the prophet was already there and nothing was needed to be killed for him to populate.

Gaige

11-30-2008, 08:11 PM

Gaige

11-30-2008, 08:12 PM

<cite>Panoz@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>Ill stop giving my feedback when you reimburse me for the last 5 years of my subscription rates</blockquote>November 2004 to November 2008 is 4 years, sir.

Burnout

11-30-2008, 10:59 PM

<cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote>Anashti Sul was defeated in Palace of the Ancient One last night on my server</blockquote>i really doubt that - you may mix up the grp and the raid palace...

Phank

11-30-2008, 11:35 PM

Kithicor<a href="http://www.voracityeq2.com/">http://www.voracityeq2.com/</a>Anashti Sul has been awakened, but still MIA.

hellfire

11-30-2008, 11:59 PM

<cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote>Kithicor<a href="http://www.voracityeq2.com/">http://www.voracityeq2.com/</a>Anashti Sul has been awakened, but still MIA.</blockquote>Anashti wasnt killed.Here is link to updated list on world wide progression on cleared zones and contested mobs.As can see list is kinda empty.....will be some time befor see Anashti dead imo<a href="http://www.eq2flames.com/zones-population/35874-official-tso-raid-progression-list.html">http://www.eq2flames.com/zones-popu...ssion-list.html</a>

Burnout

12-01-2008, 12:44 AM

<cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote>Kithicor<a href="http://www.voracityeq2.com/">http://www.voracityeq2.com/</a>Anashti Sul has been awakened, but still MIA.</blockquote>like i thought - you mixed up the grp version of palace with the raid version. varsoon is the endmob of the heroic instance & the text msg is based on the event/sig-quest.that has nothing to do with fighting anashti sul herself in the raidversion of the palace...

WeatherMan

12-01-2008, 03:12 AM

<cite>Panoz@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>you're base complain is clear - you want everything without having anything involved that needs something to be done, that is out of your direct influence. i didn't comment that cause it's useless... i only commented the part some posted, that they think raidforces don't want to / don't focus on it & that is causing a delay - which is just wrong.having her unlocked by a raidpart fits into the lore, fits into tso and it's a nice piece for raiders - tso is so extremly grp content heavy, that i doubt you have nothing else to do then this one diety quest. so why not saying thx soe for a 95% grp 5% raid expansion and wait a bit on this one singel issue?</blockquote>guess my complaint wasn't as clear as you thought because thats not true. Not even close to true.I do not want THE WHOLE UNLOCK only directly influenced by ONE raid group. If they are doing live event quests like this to unlock things the whole server uses, make it something the WHOLE SERVER HELPS WITH.Got it? Clear enough? I don't care if the LAST mob in the quest series is a raid, fine. But my complaint is more that the only thing you do to unlock her is a raid... yea real epic, real "story driven". If I here that excuse one more time I am going to laugh myself to sleep. There is no story involved when all you have to kill is clear her zone and take out an avatar.That should be the completion step to a world even that involves crafters, soloers, group content, and a final raid to kick it all off. What does this do? It gives those of us who don't have raid guilds, or raid playtimes to contribute to the overall unlock, instead of doing what I said, which is sit on our butts twiddling our thumbs while the raiders gear up and get ready to go.</blockquote>While I understand your position and do sympathize with you - heck, I fully agree with you - you are fighting a losing battle. The raider [Removed for Content] mentality infected whoever made SOE's decision to have it the way it is, and the programming is already in place. Undoing it would take time and money. And they have your cash already.It isn't going to change, and there are people who are going to gloat while rubbing your face in it ( a few posts in this thread have proven that), when they aren't giving 'advice' along the lines of 'quit whining' (yeah, real <CENSORED> helpful, that) and making goofball claims that it 'fits the lore' (about as much as introducing Volvos or phasers would) if you keep posting about it. Now, I'm not telling you to stop posting - I'm not QUITE that much of a jerk - but I AM going to say that I think you're wasting your time. People have suggested good ideas and equitable solutions like yours since the game hit the Internet, and as often as not - moreso, actually - they've gotten the electronic finger.Get used to it.

Apocroph

12-01-2008, 12:00 PM

<cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Phank wrote:</cite><blockquote>Kithicor<a href="http://www.voracityeq2.com/">http://www.voracityeq2.com/</a>Anashti Sul has been awakened, but still MIA.</blockquote>like i thought - you mixed up the grp version of palace with the raid version. varsoon is the endmob of the heroic instance & the text msg is based on the event/sig-quest.that has nothing to do with fighting anashti sul herself in the raidversion of the palace...</blockquote>Exactly. You've mixed up the group instance and the raid instance.Read the announcement text carefully. "The connection between Anashti and Norrath has been severed."She'd have to be disconnected from the Void too, which is likely what will happen in the raid.

shadowedwolf

12-08-2008, 04:02 AM

zzzzzzzzz...... so... yea... has any server actually opened her up yet... it's been what... 3 weeks almost? patience is a virtue, blah blah blah... i'm just curious... and annoyed.... but mostly annoyed... and curious :p

Burnout

12-08-2008, 04:53 AM

don't expect it anyway too soon - palace is no cake raidzone, and specially the endmob is ....

shadowedwolf

12-08-2008, 05:43 AM

<cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>don't expect it anyway too soon - palace is no cake raidzone, and specially the endmob is ....</blockquote>so i've heard... blast you soe... why bother making a big deal outta sul's return, when you planned to have her open has you did? eh... whatever...i have beer... i can wait... for now...

NightGod473

12-08-2008, 06:55 AM

OMG! Three whole weeks!?!!? Light the torches and grab the pitchforks!!!

ke'la

12-08-2008, 12:56 PM

<cite>shadowedwolf wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>don't expect it anyway too soon - palace is no cake raidzone, and specially the endmob is ....</blockquote>so i've heard... blast you soe... why bother making a big deal outta sul's return, when you planned to have her open has you did? eh... whatever...i have beer... i can wait... for now...</blockquote>Maybe you should read the "BIG DEAL" text, instead of just the name... cause as PART of that big deal was the statment that the players would have to do SOMETHING to make her available she will NOT be a normal god... whenever an MMO maker in general and SoE in particular says players have to do something to unlock something that means RAID a very high level instance.{Possable spoiler below highlight to read}That said I was under the impression that if you run though the TSO sig line all the way to Varsoon you get treated to seeing Anashti being defeated(by the Ethernaughts) and then you unlock her personally... like the Froglocks.

Dimhammer

12-23-2008, 04:07 PM

This blows. All I want for Christmas is to be able to worship Anashti Sul. Still no prophet on the Najena server.

Gungo

12-23-2008, 04:57 PM

<cite>Panoz@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Burnout wrote:</cite><blockquote>you're base complain is clear - you want everything without having anything involved that needs something to be done, that is out of your direct influence. i didn't comment that cause it's useless... i only commented the part some posted, that they think raidforces don't want to / don't focus on it & that is causing a delay - which is just wrong.having her unlocked by a raidpart fits into the lore, fits into tso and it's a nice piece for raiders - tso is so extremly grp content heavy, that i doubt you have nothing else to do then this one diety quest. so why not saying thx soe for a 95% grp 5% raid expansion and wait a bit on this one singel issue?</blockquote>guess my complaint wasn't as clear as you thought because thats not true. Not even close to true.I do not want THE WHOLE UNLOCK only directly influenced by ONE raid group. If they are doing live event quests like this to unlock things the whole server uses, make it something the WHOLE SERVER HELPS WITH.Got it? Clear enough? I don't care if the LAST mob in the quest series is a raid, fine. But my complaint is more that the only thing you do to unlock her is a raid... yea real epic, real "story driven". If I here that excuse one more time I am going to laugh myself to sleep. There is no story involved when all you have to kill is clear her zone and take out an avatar.That should be the completion step to a world even that involves crafters, soloers, group content, and a final raid to kick it all off. What does this do? It gives those of us who don't have raid guilds, or raid playtimes to contribute to the overall unlock, instead of doing what I said, which is sit on our butts twiddling our thumbs while the raiders gear up and get ready to go.</blockquote>Then feel free to learn that 1 super long solo/group quest series to kill the first named, then 1 hard group zone to kill the 4th? named is also required to unlock Asaunti sul. Raids were not the only the only thing required to unlock her but only the truly ignorant state falsehoods they think true as fact.

The_Cheeseman

12-24-2008, 10:15 PM

If I recall correctly, there was a heroic questline that could be completed to unlock froglocks for specifically the account that completed it, even before the raid encounter unlocked them for the server. I believe something like that is what many are asking for here.

Cusashorn

12-26-2008, 07:19 PM

<cite>Dimhammer wrote:</cite><blockquote>This blows. All I want for Christmas is to be able to worship Anashti Sul. Still no prophet on the Najena server.</blockquote>She hasn't been unlocked on ANY server yet.

TheSpin

12-26-2008, 07:42 PM

<cite>The_Cheeseman wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I recall correctly, there was a heroic questline that could be completed to unlock froglocks for specifically the account that completed it, even before the raid encounter unlocked them for the server. I believe something like that is what many are asking for here.</blockquote>This is true, except that it was a solo quest line... doable around 25-30 solo. The quests are still in game even.It should be mentioned, however, that frogloks are not any more powerful than any other race. This diety might be different.

Cusashorn

12-26-2008, 08:39 PM

^ It's not.<a href="http://eq2.wikia.com/wiki/Anashti_Sul" target="_blank">You can look her miracles up on Wiki.</a> They're useful, but not overpowering. They arn't so strong that they make other gods useless by comparison.

Snowdonia

12-26-2008, 11:57 PM

<cite>The_Cheeseman wrote:</cite><blockquote>If I recall correctly, there was a heroic questline that could be completed to unlock froglocks for specifically the account that completed it, even before the raid encounter unlocked them for the server. I believe something like that is what many are asking for here.</blockquote>That's exactly what I was talking about in my comment about the Froglok unlocking way at the beginning of this thread.Minority raid to unlock deity worship for the majority = dumbest idea ever

Ylis

12-27-2008, 12:28 AM

Maybe some kind of consolidated Anashti Sul progress thread should be put somewhere? I too am waiting for this diety!

xpraetorianx

12-27-2008, 12:28 AM

You know, every day casual players got how many instance group zones?People who like to experience ALL of the game got 4 extra raid zones, 2 of which have only about 4 named and one has 1 named in it. As far as Im concerned SOE gave this whole expansion to casual players... Casual players can still raid... its not like its against the rule book. Get your guild together and hit some zones... frankly im glad that SOE decided to give a little something to people who want to explore everything the game has to offer. You dont have to be a hardcore, live and die raider to enjoy raiding. I like to join PUG raids every now and then and that doesnt make it any less fun. Some people in this thread seem to think its some great big sin if they classify themselves as anything but Casual and that raiding is the root of all evil... I know plenty of "casual" guilds that raid quite well. What I dont understand is why people say "Well Ill never do that" or "Ill never see that". Sure you can, you just gotta go out there and do it. If your guild doesnt, well fine, but dont knock the ones that actually work together to get that part of the game into their schedule. If it wasnt for raiders, none of you brand new players out their with froglok characters would even have them... if you have never raided ANYTHING before I dont think those people should be making judgements based on what raids are like. Avatars are used mainly by the majority of a servers raiders so it only fits that raiders are directly involved in an Avatars storyline, plain and simple. Maybe instead of insulting those raiding characters you should instead be encouraging them, they are afterall going to be the ones who eventually will unlock an avatar for you to worship. Otherwise, we could just be like WOW and install and a STAPLES "easy" button somewhere right in the middle of your screens lol. =)

Snowdonia

12-27-2008, 02:42 AM

Raiders are welcome to be involved with an "avatar" being released. We're not talking about an Avatar, we're talking about worshipping a deity and their Prophet. I think you're preaching to the wrong choir here because I can't see how any of your post is relavent to what is being discussed here.

The_Cheeseman

12-27-2008, 08:20 AM

The main problem I see people discussing here is that deities have never been considered epic content in the past (I'd actually claim that deity quests are on the easy side of heroic, closer to solo). This new deity is really cool and unique, and lots of people want to try the quests. Unfortunately, these people are gated right now because the entire questline must be unlocked by an epic raid event that is obviously so hard that not even the most powerful guilds in the entire game can beat it.I think it's fairly obvious that the kind of commitment required to defeat content like Palace of the Ancient One makes such attempts the exclusive territory of the so-called "hardcore raiders." I also claim that such elite raiders make up a rather small minority of the general player base (basically the rosters of the 1-3 top guilds on each server). So basically, we have solo/heroic content that is gated by epic content that less than 100 people per server have any real chance of completing.This has nothing to do with entitlement complex or jealousy of epic rewards. It's just the fact that so many people who are interested only in this heroic questline are forced to twiddle their thumbs impotently while waiting for a bunch of players they probably never interect with to complete content that they generally don't care about. I have to agree that the situation kinda sucks.From a more cynical standpoint, one could make the claim that raiders already get the best gear, most interesting and challenging encounters, and access to the most important storyline revelations. Why should they also be given the responsibility of controlling the general populace's access to non-raid content? But now I am just playing Devil's Advocate. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" />***EDIT: Typos***