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Kasparek
11-17-2008, 10:14 AM
<p>i am newbie inq - lvl 30 atm so I do apologize for my newbish questions <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>1) I wonder how does well equipped inq at lvl 80 compare to dps classes in terms of DPS? I expect us not to be the best but how do we compare to mages/fighters?</p><p>2) as i am on nagafen I do try to pvp occasionally. but it seems that for other players I am another kind of mob to be harvested <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> so I wonder are there any classes I have at least a chance against? perhaps I do so bad beacuse of gear or it this particular tier (lvl30)... as for AA I have battlecleric line completed. anyway i would like to know how do experienced inq do in pvp....</p><p>thanks a lot</p>

Mew
11-17-2008, 01:28 PM
<p>At level 80 your dps will be very much gear dependant.  Most inquisitors will have a heal gear set and a dps gear set.  Inquistors are also heavily AA dependant.  We definitely parse at the top of the healer dps list (with the possible exception of Furies).  Probably on par with poorly played summoners.  However, much of our dps comes from buffing other players' dps (either directly or by debuffing the mob's mitigation).  Much of our healing ability is tied into reducing the amount of dmg the mob puts out.   Once I got the end line ability in the STR AA line my solo inquisitor kicked ###.  You just need the right AA's - Battle Cleric line, STA line, STR line and part of the AGI line.  Forget the others in the cleric line.  Useless.</p><p>I do not PvP but I am told that Inquisitors can be nasty if well played.   The inquisitor is unique in that it is the only class that can purge stun/stifle effects from itself.  Its much harder to get a stun lock on an inquisitor.  The real weakness that I could see would be against ranged opponents.  Clerics just don't have a lot of ranged combat options.</p>

Norrsken
11-17-2008, 07:12 PM
<ol><li>Well, not blazingly good, but decent enough.</li><li>If you build your inqy correctly and learn to play it to its fullest people shoudl be running screaming from you t3-7. t8 its more even fights. </li></ol>

Kasparek
11-22-2008, 08:24 AM
<p><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ol><li>Well, not blazingly good, but decent enough.</li><li>If you build your inqy correctly and learn to play it to its fullest people shoudl be running screaming from you t3-7. t8 its more even fights. </li></ol></blockquote><p>I really wonder if I do something incorrectly... but I did not notice anybody running away from me screaming yet <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> on the contrary I have just opposite experience.</p><p>my yesterday´s fight. me lvl 30 inq, 20AA, battlecleric completed, all equipment MC vs well equipped lvl28SK</p><p>he was fighting some mobs so I waited until he was on about 75% of health and 25% of mana. I jumped on him (with my hots ticking) and unleashed all of my CA/spells. I got him to 50% of health. he thrown few debuffs on me, melee hit me few times inbetween casting (so got me to about 75% of my health) and then hit me with some spell Sickening something (spelling?) for about 1500. so all of sudden my 2200hp dropped to some 400hp and soon the fight was over....</p><p>so I wonder did I actually stand a chance against him? if so what should I do?</p><p>and does inq in T4 have a chance to kill anything in pvp (if engaged in equal terms..)?</p>

Norrsken
11-22-2008, 10:12 AM
<p><cite>Kasparek wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><ol><li>Well, not blazingly good, but decent enough.</li><li>If you build your inqy correctly and learn to play it to its fullest people shoudl be running screaming from you t3-7. t8 its more even fights. </li></ol></blockquote><p>I really wonder if I do something incorrectly... but I did not notice anybody running away from me screaming yet <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /> on the contrary I have just opposite experience.</p><p>my yesterday´s fight. me lvl 30 inq, 20AA, battlecleric completed, all equipment MC vs well equipped lvl28SK</p><p>he was fighting some mobs so I waited until he was on about 75% of health and 25% of mana. I jumped on him (with my hots ticking) and unleashed all of my CA/spells. I got him to 50% of health. he thrown few debuffs on me, melee hit me few times inbetween casting (so got me to about 75% of my health) and then hit me with some spell Sickening something (spelling?) for about 1500. so all of sudden my 2200hp dropped to some 400hp and soon the fight was over....</p><p>so I wonder did I actually stand a chance against him? if so what should I do?</p><p>and does inq in T4 have a chance to kill anything in pvp (if engaged in equal terms..)?</p></blockquote><p>Hots?! <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />And that was harm touch (What you mean might be called sickening anger, but thats not the 1500 hit). Count on getting HT to your face when fighting sks.</p><p>Hard to say what you did wrong, but do you have the STA line and 100% melee crits? Are you using a twohander? Are all your skills ad3 and all your armor MC? divine aura?</p><p>I used to lay waste to 3 people at a time in t3 and 4. Of roughly equal gear.</p>

Abekongen
11-24-2008, 10:15 AM
<p>exatly <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>here in the battle cleric line should the 20 points be spend? Im currently level 23 <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>ith 14 AA points and they are all over the place from top to buttom. <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>hich should be maxed and <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>hich should be left out?</p>

psisto
11-24-2008, 10:20 AM
<p><cite>Abekongen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>exatly <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>here in the battle cleric line should the 20 points be spend? Im currently level 23 <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>ith 14 AA points and they are all over the place from top to buttom. <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>hich should be maxed and <span style="font-size: x-small;">w</span>hich should be left out?</p></blockquote><p>I first got the first three single-target combat arts up, then spent points into the AE. the first three are currently maxed, the AE has 3 in it. at that point, I put 2 points for the first rank of enhance: act of faith, to unlock the strike of corruption, and then put one point in there. around that point I could take the end ability, then went straight for the STA tree to get the 100% mcrit, now going down the STR tree to help my soloing a bit, before grabbing heal crit and upping my neglected combat arts.</p><p>That said, im playing PVE with a zerker as tank duo, but PVP should be similar really, when i look at it. the combat arts give you a quick way to dps, and the 100% crit raise that further. lastly, the str end ability will give you steadfast, which is supposedly awesome, still working my way towards that though</p>

KatrinaDeath
11-24-2008, 11:10 AM
<p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We definitely parse at the top of the healer dps list (with the possible exception of Furies).</p></blockquote><p>You forgot a class... But I understand your error, most have either gone Defiler or rerolled. I've parsed in the 4-5k range on raids. You will always hit harder, I will hit faster. It's the dogs dps that throws me over the top.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">As for the OP... You will shine in PvP from T4-T7 after that you will become very gear dependant. If you can keep your gear up through T8 you will fair quite well in PvP.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Also, as tempting as it is to wield a 2H in PvP I recomend against it. Finding a sturdy buckler and a 1H weapon is your best choice when fighting any melee class. (Include melee preists in this)</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Which faction do you play on in Nagafen?</span></p>

Norrsken
11-24-2008, 12:41 PM
<p><cite>Swisha@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Mewse wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>We definitely parse at the top of the healer dps list (with the possible exception of Furies).</p></blockquote><p>You forgot a class... But I understand your error, most have either gone Defiler or rerolled. I've parsed in the 4-5k range on raids. You will always hit harder, I will hit faster. It's the dogs dps that throws me over the top.</p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">As for the OP... You will shine in PvP from T4-T7 after that you will become very gear dependant. If you can keep your gear up through T8 you will fair quite well in PvP.</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Also, as tempting as it is to wield a 2H in PvP I recomend against it. Finding a sturdy buckler and a 1H weapon is your best choice when fighting any melee class. (Include melee preists in this)</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Which faction do you play on in Nagafen?</span></p></blockquote><p>I find a trusty twohander better than 1h and a buckler vs melee priests as an inquisitor. They never did much damage to me either way so I figured I would be better off with more free damage.</p>

KatrinaDeath
11-24-2008, 01:27 PM
<p><cite>Ulvhamne@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>I find a trusty twohander better than 1h and a buckler vs melee priests as an inquisitor. They never did much damage to me either way so I figured I would be better off with more free damage.</p></blockquote><p>Ah I'd actually agree with this to some degree. If I'm fighting a melee priest who is planing to heal me to death they soon meet the pointy end of <a href="http://www.lootdb.com/eq2/item/383681522" target="_blank">this.</a> But there are the few exceptions out there where I would rather have the added protection.</p><p>Question is... If you had to fight yourself... Which weapon would you use? 1H vs 1H? 1H vs 2H? 2H vs 2H? Ponder that!</p>