So is it worth it to come back? [Archive] - EQ2 Forum Archive @ EQ2Wire

CamdenVer2

11-03-2008, 05:19 PM

I started playing EQ2 at Launch. I had to quite because of some personal family stuff and am now back. I am now trying to figure out where i wanna start. I always loved the depth of EQ2 but my fear is my Ranger is only lvl 45 i think he may be 50 but since he is so low level he will be playing solo all the time, wich is not why i play MMO's. I will know forsure when i log in at home. I was just curious in the time i have been gone would you say it would be worth it to come back or should i play Vanguard, which i beta tested and played at launch?

Kizee

11-03-2008, 05:23 PM

<cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>I started playing EQ2 at Launch. I had to quite because of some personal family stuff and am now back. I am now trying to figure out where i wanna start. I always loved the depth of EQ2 but my fear is my Ranger is only lvl 45 i think he may be 50 but since he is so low level he will be playing solo all the time, wich is not why i play MMO's. I will know forsure when i log in at home. I was just curious in the time i have been gone would you say it would be worth it to come back or should i play Vanguard, which i beta tested and played at launch?</blockquote>It's up to you but you will probally be soloing to 80 since you gain exp and AA faster doing the solo queslines.The just decreased the amount of exp it takes to go from 20-70 so catching up is pretty quick now.

CamdenVer2

11-03-2008, 05:30 PM

<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>I started playing EQ2 at Launch. I had to quite because of some personal family stuff and am now back. I am now trying to figure out where i wanna start. I always loved the depth of EQ2 but my fear is my Ranger is only lvl 45 i think he may be 50 but since he is so low level he will be playing solo all the time, wich is not why i play MMO's. I will know forsure when i log in at home. I was just curious in the time i have been gone would you say it would be worth it to come back or should i play Vanguard, which i beta tested and played at launch?</blockquote>It's up to you but you will probally be soloing to 80 since you gain exp and AA faster doing the solo queslines.The just decreased the amount of exp it takes to go from 20-70 so catching up is pretty quick now.</blockquote>How are the solo questlines? Are they pretty interesting and challenging or kinda boring and grindish?

Kizee

11-03-2008, 05:39 PM

<cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>I started playing EQ2 at Launch. I had to quite because of some personal family stuff and am now back. I am now trying to figure out where i wanna start. I always loved the depth of EQ2 but my fear is my Ranger is only lvl 45 i think he may be 50 but since he is so low level he will be playing solo all the time, wich is not why i play MMO's. I will know forsure when i log in at home. I was just curious in the time i have been gone would you say it would be worth it to come back or should i play Vanguard, which i beta tested and played at launch?</blockquote>It's up to you but you will probally be soloing to 80 since you gain exp and AA faster doing the solo queslines.The just decreased the amount of exp it takes to go from 20-70 so catching up is pretty quick now.</blockquote>How are the solo questlines? Are they pretty interesting and challenging or kinda boring and grindish?</blockquote>Some are pretty entertaining if you read thru the text but most are go to this area to get "x", kill "x" amount of these or go find "x" person. (same as every other game)However, by time you reach 80 yoiu will want to stab your eyes out with a fork. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/97ada74b88049a6d50a6ed40898a03d7.gif" border="0" />

Yimway

11-03-2008, 05:40 PM

<cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Camdyn@Blackburrow wrote:</cite><blockquote>I started playing EQ2 at Launch. I had to quite because of some personal family stuff and am now back. I am now trying to figure out where i wanna start. I always loved the depth of EQ2 but my fear is my Ranger is only lvl 45 i think he may be 50 but since he is so low level he will be playing solo all the time, wich is not why i play MMO's. I will know forsure when i log in at home. I was just curious in the time i have been gone would you say it would be worth it to come back or should i play Vanguard, which i beta tested and played at launch?</blockquote>It's up to you but you will probally be soloing to 80 since you gain exp and AA faster doing the solo queslines.The just decreased the amount of exp it takes to go from 20-70 so catching up is pretty quick now.</blockquote>How are the solo questlines? Are they pretty interesting and challenging or kinda boring and grindish?</blockquote>Borring, grindish, not a challenge.You're looking at roughly 60-65 hours of solo quest grinding till you can group again. At that point, the game actually gets to be fun.With the upcomming expansion, there will be instances that scale 50-80 and possibly there will be some groups for it at the lower levels, but unless they add a way to get atleast one aa per instance, you're better off spending your time soloing till 80.2cp.

Wulfgr

11-03-2008, 05:41 PM

I just came back after a 3 month break. Been playing for 2 weeks again. I started a pally since I couldn't find a group and really didn't want to start quest grinding in Lfay with my 55 Ranger. He is near level 30 now. I have been casually playing. I really am dissappointed. I am going to keep playing to the new expansion comes out (pally should be 50 or very close and the Ranger is already in the mid 50s) and if there isn't any good group content for 50+ then I am going to cancel my account for good and uninstall EQ. I am tired of soloquest. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy soloing as much as the next guy, but I can only stand so much of it before I want to beat my head off the wall. Its just boring to me, but then I am an old school EQer and I enjoy groups, even PuGs. I've met some awesome players in PuGs(and some real horrible ones but for the most part they have been good)

Kizee

11-03-2008, 05:48 PM

Wow.... I am the positive post in this thread.... I must be ill. lol

Yimway

11-03-2008, 05:55 PM

<cite>Kizee wrote:</cite><blockquote>Wow.... I am the positive post in this thread.... I must be ill. lol</blockquote>Hehe, something must be direly wrong. Nay, could be the sign of the appocalypse.Seriously though, all this could be fixed with the XP slider. I'm going to keep beating that horse till a dev comments one way or the other on it <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

Full_Metal_Mage

11-03-2008, 05:59 PM

Zelldeb

11-03-2008, 06:07 PM

i would say if you like group encounters/heroic instances you will enjoy the new expansion a lot.since the nda has been lifted i can say i have greatly enjoyed the heroic progression of the tso instances i have run so far, its nice to see thought put into the heroic content, and it very well balances out t8, so now there is lots of solo content, as well as adding all the new heroic instances. plus some of the instances scale down to the 50's so thats even more to do while lvling up. im not sure exactly how much xp these new instances give u pre lvl 80, but if they give more than the rok instances that could even provide a new way to lvl from 70-80 other than soloing.

Amise

11-03-2008, 06:09 PM

<cite>Full_Metal_Mage wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leapoltis@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just came back after a 3 month break. Been playing for 2 weeks again. I started a pally since I couldn't find a group and really didn't want to start quest grinding in Lfay with my 55 Ranger. He is near level 30 now. I have been casually playing. I really am dissappointed. I am going to keep playing to the new expansion comes out (pally should be 50 or very close and the Ranger is already in the mid 50s) and if there isn't any good group content for 50+ then I am going to cancel my account for good and uninstall EQ. I am tired of soloquest. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy soloing as much as the next guy, but I can only stand so much of it before I want to beat my head off the wall. Its just boring to me, but then I am an old school EQer and I enjoy groups, even PuGs. I've met some awesome players in PuGs(and some real horrible ones but for the most part they have been good)</blockquote>If you want a group, just start one. So many players say they want groups, but very few actually seem to start them.</blockquote>Yeah. What people usually mean when they say they want groups is, they want an invite to a group that was formed by someone else. Few people want to take the responsibility for starting and organizing a group.

Yimway

11-03-2008, 06:10 PM

<cite>Full_Metal_Mage wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you want a group, just start one. So many players say they want groups, but very few actually seem to start them.</blockquote>We don't start groups cause they are less rewarding adv xp and aa xp than the same time spent soloquesting.Make groups 25% more rewarding for both adv and aa xp, and people will flock to doing groups while leveling up, as long as it is a consious decision to kneecap aa xp, educated players (people leveling alts) will avoid them.As I said before, an XP Slider letting you chose how much xp goes to adv vs aa on kills solves this immediately.

Yimway

11-03-2008, 06:11 PM

<cite>Zelldeb wrote:</cite><blockquote>since the nda has been lifted i can say i have greatly enjoyed the heroic progression of the tso instances i have run so far, its nice to see thought put into the heroic content, and it very well balances out t8, so now there is lots of solo content, as well as adding all the new heroic instances. plus some of the instances scale down to the 50's so thats even more to do while lvling up. </blockquote>A group of level 50's that spend 15 minutes forming, 15 minutes traveling, and 60 mins completing the instance will get the same AA xp as spending 90 mins doing soloquests in lfay?

Full_Metal_Mage

11-03-2008, 07:08 PM

<cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Full_Metal_Mage wrote:</cite><blockquote>If you want a group, just start one. So many players say they want groups, but very few actually seem to start them.</blockquote>We don't start groups cause they are less rewarding adv xp and aa xp than the same time spent soloquesting.Make groups 25% more rewarding for both adv and aa xp, and people will flock to doing groups while leveling up, as long as it is a consious decision to kneecap aa xp, educated players (people leveling alts) will avoid them.As I said before, an XP Slider letting you chose how much xp goes to adv vs aa on kills solves this immediately.</blockquote>I'm going to nominate your expierence slider idea for the Worst EQ2 Suggestion 2008 competition. I think you have an excellent chance of winning first place.

Yimway

11-03-2008, 07:18 PM

<cite>Full_Metal_Mage wrote:</cite><blockquote>I'm going to nominate your expierence slider idea for the Worst EQ2 Suggestion 2008 competition. I think you have an excellent chance of winning first place.</blockquote>You wouldn't be the first to nominate one of my ideas for such a reward. However, I'm curious what is wrong with allowing the player to chose their playstyle and get equal xp reward for equal time?Not like it is a new idea, since it's been in EQ1 since AA xp was introduced.

ZinerVSNamne

11-03-2008, 07:31 PM

i group at pretty much every tier of EQ2, and i dont care whether i get less xp from that as opposed to soloing.But then again i always start the groups myself and i box core grp (healer/tank) I dont know what it's like on the US servers but on runneye there are groups going of at every tier.Mentioning EQ1 seems stupid as well ,since i can remember long periods of being lfg... EQ1 forced you to grp. At least you have the choice to solo here.

ZinerVSNamne

11-03-2008, 07:34 PM

And yes, its worth coming back.Look me up on Runneye if you want to get into some grps =)My characters are:TerminumHelgonetHelgonPs. Join a guild, most are friendly and will gladly grp with you.

Brigh

11-03-2008, 11:38 PM

<cite>Leapoltis@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just came back after a 3 month break. Been playing for 2 weeks again. I started a pally since I couldn't find a group and really didn't want to start quest grinding in Lfay with my 55 Ranger. He is near level 30 now. I have been casually playing. I really am dissappointed. I am going to keep playing to the new expansion comes out (pally should be 50 or very close and the Ranger is already in the mid 50s) and if there isn't any good group content for 50+ then I am going to cancel my account for good and uninstall EQ. I am tired of soloquest. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy soloing as much as the next guy, but I can only stand so much of it before I want to beat my head off the wall. Its just boring to me, but then I am an old school EQer and I enjoy groups, even PuGs. I've met some awesome players in PuGs(and some real horrible ones but for the most part they have been good)</blockquote>A person after my own heart.Don't talk like this in Najena 1-9 chat or you will be called a whiner when you complain about no groups on the formerly heavily populated Najena. Level 1-9 chat seems to be the the [Removed for Content] magnet, but you are forced to chat there as it seems to be the only place people will look for groups. I didnt get ANY groups at all until I started advertising in that wasteland.I just can't see why people would want to pay a monthly fee to play SoloQuest when you have games like Oblivion or what ever offline. I used to have fun with people, now on Venekor and Najena it is a ghost town.

erin

11-04-2008, 08:38 AM

The people unable to find groups, at any level, are the people that are unwilling to form groups. I understand the reluctance, but unless you are forming groups regularly I'm not sure you get to whine about the lack of groups. Its not a lack of groups, its a lack of group leaders.

Wulfgr

11-04-2008, 09:55 AM

<cite>Amise wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Full_Metal_Mage wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Leapoltis@Crushbone wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just came back after a 3 month break. Been playing for 2 weeks again. I started a pally since I couldn't find a group and really didn't want to start quest grinding in Lfay with my 55 Ranger. He is near level 30 now. I have been casually playing. I really am dissappointed. I am going to keep playing to the new expansion comes out (pally should be 50 or very close and the Ranger is already in the mid 50s) and if there isn't any good group content for 50+ then I am going to cancel my account for good and uninstall EQ. I am tired of soloquest. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy soloing as much as the next guy, but I can only stand so much of it before I want to beat my head off the wall. Its just boring to me, but then I am an old school EQer and I enjoy groups, even PuGs. I've met some awesome players in PuGs(and some real horrible ones but for the most part they have been good)</blockquote>If you want a group, just start one. So many players say they want groups, but very few actually seem to start them.</blockquote>Yeah. What people usually mean when they say they want groups is, they want an invite to a group that was formed by someone else. Few people want to take the responsibility for starting and organizing a group.</blockquote>I tried several times to get groups going. Never got a full group. LFG-no one looking..blah blah blah. I love leading groups and have lead tons and tons of groups over my time from EQ1 to WoW to EQ2. The last time I tried, actually Sunday of last week. I got a Guard, Monk, Ranger(me), and a Dirge. But couldn't get a healer to join. We broke up and I went to soloquest my pally through BBM.

DumplesTheBunny

11-04-2008, 10:43 AM

Even when I try to get groups going, I can only get a full group on Sunday evenings if at all.

CrazyMoogle

11-04-2008, 12:05 PM

<cite>Brigh wrote:</cite><blockquote>I just can't see why people would want to pay a monthly fee to play SoloQuest when you have games like Oblivion or what ever offline. I used to have fun with people, now on Venekor and Najena it is a ghost town.</blockquote>Because the game is only boring and tedious at the lower levels. When you're at the cap it's fun to group and raid (and solo when the mood strikes). I've never seen an offline game that allows me to group and raid.

Nimeesha

11-04-2008, 12:21 PM

<cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>A group of level 50's that spend 15 minutes forming, 15 minutes traveling, and 60 mins completing the instance will get the same AA xp as spending 90 mins doing soloquests in lfay?</blockquote>Even though that is true. To many people, its not all about the EXP or AA. It's about having fun and interacting with other players. I would gladly trade slower AA and EXP rewards for a good time grouping/interacting with other players. The TC never said anything about wanting to rush to level/AA cap just that he wanted to group/play with other players.

Yimway

11-04-2008, 12:40 PM

<cite>Nimeesha@Befallen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>A group of level 50's that spend 15 minutes forming, 15 minutes traveling, and 60 mins completing the instance will get the same AA xp as spending 90 mins doing soloquests in lfay?</blockquote>Even though that is true. To many people, its not all about the EXP or AA. It's about having fun and interacting with other players. I would gladly trade slower AA and EXP rewards for a good time grouping/interacting with other players. The TC never said anything about wanting to rush to level/AA cap just that he wanted to group/play with other players.</blockquote>Aye, I was just painting the complete picture for him to make his own informed decision.Don't get me wrong, my prefered game is the group game. I want the game adjusted so that leveling up in groups is not a penalty, I really do. And until such time as it is fixed, I'll continue to point out that penalty in related threads.

Zhern

11-04-2008, 03:16 PM

My brother-in-law and I have come back to EQ2 from Warhammer (8 month leave). Not saying that Warhammer is bad, we both like it. I just had a moment of weakness to come back to EQ2 and see the changes. Well let me say that I am pleasantly surprised. Last night we had setup the voice chat options and got it to work perfectly. Then we called back to our home cities. He asked me to come to Greater Feydark. While there I saw a NPC giving a quest out for the Halloween event. I thought it would fun to do. I was quite shocked how a fun quick adventure it was. My son and nephew saw us talking and having fun so they wanted to play, so I paid for their reactivation. So I paid for 3 accounts and pre-ordered three new expansions. So you can take that as a yes, come on back. If your on Blackburrow, give me a tell. We don't mind having others in our group! My characters are;SarykTuttotusGkarnKuthorRitkaZhern

liveja

11-04-2008, 04:18 PM

<cite>Khayleigh@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>When you're at the cap it's fun to group and raid</blockquote>I'm glad it's still fun for you, but that's not necessarily true of other players.For myself, I'd be happy to start groups, if I thought any of the T8 instances were actually worth doing for the freekin' thousandth time. They aren't. Hopefully, TSO instances will be more fun, but honestly, the thought of doing COA, Vaults, Maidens, Chel, etc., even once more makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull rusty spoon.

Yimway

11-04-2008, 05:25 PM

<cite>Flaye@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Khayleigh@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>When you're at the cap it's fun to group and raid</blockquote>I'm glad it's still fun for you, but that's not necessarily true of other players.For myself, I'd be happy to start groups, if I thought any of the T8 instances were actually worth doing for the freekin' thousandth time. They aren't. Hopefully, TSO instances will be more fun, but honestly, the thought of doing COA, Vaults, Maidens, Chel, etc., even once more makes me want to gouge my eyes out with a dull rusty spoon.</blockquote>I suggest you play more than one MMO then. Cause none of them increase fast enough to always have fresh, new content.We grind instances cause wer still need some masters to help out on the raids we've not finished. So, in that light, the game still has appeal to us. If you don't care about mastering/fabling out or about raiding, then yes, the game is only interesting for 3-6 months out of the year.

DwarvesR

11-05-2008, 08:45 AM

I still absolutely love EQ2 and consider it to be the most fun MMO I've played (and I've done WoW, LotRO, DDO, GW, SWG, VG, etc etc etc. . . ). I have pre-ordered the expansion and am eagerly looking forward to it.That said, I haven't logged in to it in about a month now and I'm not really planning to until the expansion.If I do it will be to get my mystic up from 42 to the 50's so I can do the scaled instances with him. All my other toons are 50+. I don't raid, and can't say I feel like I've "won" the game or anything, it's just not really been all that compelling to me lately.Admittedly I am spending every evening with my new gf anymore, though. I hope to get her into EQ2 at some point so we can play it together, but until then, I'm actually spending more time in EVE. Go figure.

CrazyMoogle

11-05-2008, 10:28 AM

liveja

11-05-2008, 12:36 PM

<cite>Atan@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote>I suggest you play more than one MMO then. </blockquote>Perhaps you can show me an MMO that isn't all about doing the same things, over & over & over & over again, ad nauseum. Because if there is such a monster, I haven't seen it. With that in mind, why would I want to play more than one of the same boring, no-point-at-all, why-am-I-paying-for-this stuff?The only reason I haven't quit EQ2 already is my guildies. Otherwise, frankly, I'm getting sick of the whole MMO industry, which is rapidly devolving into stale clones of each other.I just wish anything SOE had put into ROK was even half as much fun as Unrest. I wish the entire ROK expansion was even half the quality of EOF. But, alas: neither is true, so now I'm hoping TSO will demonstrate that SOE can still put out some good stuff. Sadly, though, I do think that even at best, by next April I'm going to be bored to tears, again.