TSO Troub Enhacements / Changes

[RJO]

<p>So for those of us not in beta - what's the good / bad / ugly look like for this expansion for Troubadors?</p>

[sokil]

<p>no troubs in Beta, or so it would apear. They all playing brigs and swashis with a few healers in the mix. I did hear a rumor that there was a gaurd in Beta but it was a brig in disguise. Was hoping for some insight too.</p>

[RJO]

<p><cite>Sochi@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>no troubs in Beta, or so it would apear. They all playing brigs and swashis with a few healers in the mix. I did hear a rumor that there was a gaurd in Beta but it was a brig in disguise. Was hoping for some insight too.</p></blockquote><p>I was starting to think our community here was dead - glad to see a response... even a sarcastic one ;P</p>

[sokil]

<p>somewhat sarcastic because the dirge forum has a lot posted but nothing for troubs forum. I keep looking and get disappointed. Realy want to hear what troubs in beta think of the new expansion.</p>

[RJO]

<p><cite>Sochi@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>somewhat sarcastic because the dirge forum has a lot posted but nothing for troubs forum. I keep looking and get disappointed. Realy want to hear what troubs in beta think of the new expansion.</p></blockquote><p><img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I meant no disrespect or anything.</p><p>If you head over to eq2flames the trouby forums there have some feedback... usual eq2flames grain of salt required.</p>

[Banditman]

<p>Well, my Troub is not my main, but I can tell you a little.</p><p>If you are looking for TSO to be "the great equalizer" for Troubs versus Dirges you're going to be disappointed.  That isn't happening.</p><p>If you can manage to get past that, there are some good things coming, along with some less useful things.</p><p>Some changes over the last couple days seem to be getting a positive reception.</p>

[Terabithi]

<p>Thank god you posted that thought-provoking and meaningful response.  *BOP*</p><p>If you look on the dirge forum, you can learn alot about the new achievement lines and how they'll work...we share everything in common with them, short of the last achievement line, which is class specific.</p><p>What we need is someone in beta to detail what the troubador (sic)  line will do for us....all the other lines can be found on the brilliant posting in the dirge forum.</p>

[Eriis]

<p>afaik, we're getting an upgrade to selo's, but only through AA.. which will knock it's 44% up to 64%, or is it 66%? i'm not sure for certain, but it'll require the assistance of AA's being spent.</p><p>That's all i know about right now <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />. if anyone gets anymore info, please share!</p>

[Hizcutie]

<p>Is this what you are looking for.  I believe the post most pertinant to your question is the last post on the thrid page of this thread.</p><p><a href="http://www.eq2flames.com/troubadors/34773-beta-nda-lifted-results-3.html">http://www.eq2flames.com/troubadors...-results-3.html</a></p>

[Deadlemming]

<p>See the eq2 flames link for pics of AAs</p><p>Basically troubs are gaining more buffing utility and losing ground in dps with everyone else. We get a mini TC that benefits classes that use HoT/DoT....most relevant to a warlock in my group for raids. The extra JC bonus is nice too. It will result in the wizzy with TC, Warlock with Upbeat Tempo, and them getting bonuses from JC so its gonna result in a heck of a lot of damage coming from the mage group</p>

[Jeepned2]

<p>Here's what I've seen so far. We are getting screwed, that's pretty much it. We get a slight increase in helping out our group at the cost of our dps going down. It's not that we are not getting a dps boost, we are losing ground to almost ever class in the game. How you ask? Well for those with VP gear, look at your current BP. We are loosing 95 points of Combat Arts and Spell damage for a chance at increasing the groups CA and spell damage by 3% and Heals by 3%. OH MY, the healer's heal spell that would have done 2000hp heal is now going to do........ 2060!!!! THE RAID IS SAVED, the MT would have never survived without the extra 60 points of heal!!! WOOHOOO.  So we are losing DPS to give these great increased buffs to our group. There was a time when I thought we where the worst soloer's in the game and that it couldn't get worse, .... Stupid me. Every other scout class, including dirges are getting a boost to DPS, we on the other hand are going to get to run faster. Great deal. Some of our CA's and spells are getting a boost to damage, but are on the same level of upgrade or slightly less in some cases as the dirge. Will you're dps go up from where it is right now? Yes, some, but not like all the rest. Overall if you are just barely beating your dirge, or fury for some, on the parse, then forget about it after the expansion. You might want to start watching to see if you are beating the Mystic on the parse instead.</p>