its just a dream but they should make all pve servers pvp!

[Plane]

Make all pve servers pvp cos people would like it ALOT more if they was just forced to play it abit.Then you could justify puting the dev time into pvp it deserves. (a pvp themed expantion maybe)This is probley the thing that would save the game that theyed never do! To much of a risk and some people would just leave without giving it a proper chance. but lets face it theres all these people playing on pve servers missing so much of the game its sad. I think most players really dont know what there missing the only thing that must matter to them is there parse results and pritty houses.You hear people who are agenst playing on pvp servers and they really dont have a clue. When i first started this game about a year ago it was on pvp and there was lvl locking back then. I died alot, I was a total n00b and i didnt understand much about the game i think i died about 40 times before i got my first solo kill on my first toon. but i had lots of fun, i knew i was crap and it didnt matter everything was new to me. Its now easer than ever to role your first toon with the removal of lvl locking. Its fine just thinking 'we'll give people choice to go on pvp or pve serves' but you can see with so much of the eq2 populations on pve servers that there really making the wrong choice, they need to be pushed into pvp. If the devs had balls theyed do that.How many people would leave because of it... only a few stubbon players and a few people who cant adapt to it. Most would be greatful to be shown the light and would just wish they hadent wasted so much time on pve. It would bring a huge burst of life to many peoples game and they would probley stay with the game longer or even come back to it from rival games.well its a dream <img src="/smilies/9d71f0541cff0a302a0309c5079e8dee.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Azekah1]

lol  that would be hilarious

[Brethil]

Sounds more like a nightmare to me to be honest. Just because you like to PvP does not mean everyone does. Choice is good, just leave it as it is.

[Guld_Ulrish]

They should make so you had 1 pve zone and 1 pvp zone in one week on the pve servers. Then they would have a good chance to try it out.

[Rattfa]

The first line of your post is entirely false, thus the rest of it isn't worth reading.

[Azekah1]

<cite>Rattface@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>The first line of your post is entirely false, thus the rest of it isn't worth reading.</blockquote>Aww rat. you are just so clever and cool...Maybe one day, I'll be as cool as you.. :/

[Kneemin]

<cite>Rattface@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>The first line of your post is entirely false, thus the rest of it isn't worth reading.</blockquote>I kind of agree with this statement.

[valkry]

<p>Carebear FTW. Sorry I played the life or death video game (called it 3 yrs running RADAR on a Navy Destroyer. Ironman PvP, you screw up, your & 250 of your friends die... not virtual die & respawn w/ broken armour... but DIE!)</p><p>I play game to 'relax.' I don't need some griefer with a bad attitude & a warped sense of humor ruining my 'play-time.' I like the pace of PvE. I can AFK if I have to w/o knowing I'll end-up mugged because I decided to cycle the laundry while playing. I don't have to try to franticly camp out when I hear the 'Mom-I-might-need to-go-to-the-Emergency-Room' scream from one of my kids.</p><p>If SoE was silly enough to make your 'dream' a reality, my 2 accounts would be cancelled in a heart-beat. Thanks for playing, but if you don't live our Carebear servers, you don't have to play on them. </p><p>And I promise not to beg SoE to Carebear YOUR PvP server. </p>

[Dreadpatch]

<cite>valkry wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Carebear FTW. Sorry I played the life or death video game (called it 3 yrs running RADAR on a Navy Destroyer. Ironman PvP, you screw up, your & 250 of your friends die... not virtual die & respawn w/ broken armour... but DIE!)</p><p>I play game to 'relax.' I don't need some griefer with a bad attitude & a warped sense of humor ruining my 'play-time.' I like the pace of PvE. I can AFK if I have to w/o knowing I'll end-up mugged because I decided to cycle the laundry while playing. I don't have to try to franticly camp out when I hear the 'Mom-I-might-need to-go-to-the-Emergency-Room' scream from one of my kids.</p><p>If SoE was silly enough to make your 'dream' a reality, my 2 accounts would be cancelled in a heart-beat. Thanks for playing, but if you don't live our Carebear servers, you don't have to play on them. </p><p>And I promise not to beg SoE to Carebear YOUR PvP server. </p></blockquote>QFE, Casual people play and pay too.  If I wanted to play PVP, I would have selected it when I created my toon.....   I could just picture that one A hole killing me over and over again to show me his Epeen.  Thanks but not thanks.

[kreepr]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Nothing positive will come from this thread..........</span></p><p><span style="color: #ff0000;">/LOCK</span></p>

[Rhodan]

One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. Second, give people the choice to PvP, don't ruin everyone's decision who decided to play the PvE servers. If people wanted to try PvP, they would've went to a PvP server, and we shouldn't take away their choice; instead, give them the choice again each time they decide to play, therefore they aren't forced to get ganked by groups if people are trying to quest, and everyone will have the ability to PvP.

[Plane]

<cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.

[Soulforged]

<cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).

[Plane]

<cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).</blockquote>oh no could my argument be turn around and perswad soe to wipe out pvp servers!! <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wont happen eaither way so there nothing to worry about. Most pve issues still affect pvp servers and soe has enough resorces to make expantions so they should be able to fix them. pvp issues are fixed occationly but there not a prioity for soe.

[Soulforged]

<cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).</blockquote>oh no could my argument be turn around and perswad soe to wipe out pvp servers!! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wont happen eaither way so there nothing to worry about. Most pve issues still affect pvp servers and soe has enough resorces to make expantions so they should be able to fix them. pvp issues are fixed occationly but there not a prioity for soe.</blockquote>Again, could you come up with an argument that can't be used in the exact same context against you? There's nothing to worry about because SOE would never wipe out PvE servers.Most PvP issues that get "fixed", have their "fixes" get pushed over to PvE servers and screw us over.

[Plane]

<cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).</blockquote>oh no could my argument be turn around and perswad soe to wipe out pvp servers!! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wont happen eaither way so there nothing to worry about. Most pve issues still affect pvp servers and soe has enough resorces to make expantions so they should be able to fix them. pvp issues are fixed occationly but there not a prioity for soe.</blockquote>Again, could you come up with an argument that can't be used in the exact same context against you? There's nothing to worry about because SOE would never wipe out PvE servers.<span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>i was refering to both pvp and pve server there both safe</b></span>Most PvP issues that get "fixed", have their "fixes" get pushed over to PvE servers and screw us over. </blockquote>The heart of my point is, even if you dont know it, forcing you onto a pvp server will make you happier <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm already on a pvp server my motives are largly selfless. yes you could argue we should all be playing pve, but that will mean everyones playing a version of the game with less depth where the whole point is just to get better gear just to boost your parse result and to pose about looking pritty. pvp servers are better not just because you can go out and pvp but because it gives more reason to pve.

[Soulforged]

<cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).</blockquote>oh no could my argument be turn around and perswad soe to wipe out pvp servers!! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wont happen eaither way so there nothing to worry about. Most pve issues still affect pvp servers and soe has enough resorces to make expantions so they should be able to fix them. pvp issues are fixed occationly but there not a prioity for soe.</blockquote>Again, could you come up with an argument that can't be used in the exact same context against you? There's nothing to worry about because SOE would never wipe out PvE servers.<span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>i was refering to both pvp and pve server there both safe</b></span>Most PvP issues that get "fixed", have their "fixes" get pushed over to PvE servers and screw us over. </blockquote>The heart of my point is, even if you dont know it, forcing you onto a pvp server will make you happier <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm already on a pvp server my motives are largly selfless. yes you could argue we should all be playing pve, but that will mean everyones playing a version of the game with less depth where the whole point is just to get better gear just to boost your parse result and to pose about looking pritty. pvp servers are better not just because you can go out and pvp but because it gives more reason to pve. </blockquote>Except that you don't know me, and likely a lot of other PvE players as well, and aren't in any place to say what woudl make us happier.. I've played PvP characters up to level 70 in EoF, and I hated all of it. It's a broken system forced onto a game that was never designed to support it.If you're already on a PvP server suggesting this your motives are entirely SELFISH, you should learn the difference. You want dev's to pay more attention to you, and you don't care what price other people of different playstyles of you have to pay.PvE servers already have a method of going out and getting better gear, it's called raiding. And it is extremely more interesting (which is saying a lot, considering how bad current raiding is) than going out to PvP and listening to whiny people complain their a**es off that their class is broken, that so and so player is unfair, and any other reason that people come up with for their horrible playing.

[Kneemin]

<cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Plane@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Rhodan@Nagafen wrote:</cite><blockquote>One step at a time. Fix all the exploits and bugs first before releasing pvp to everyone. </blockquote>the thing is if its realced to everyone then soe would fix all the bugs and exploits. there current speed fixing pvp problems like chockering is a joke.</blockquote>could you try coming up with an argument that couldn't be used in the exact same context against your idea?If SOE liquidated all the PvP servers to PvE, then there would be more time for Dev's to work on the PvE bugs (and there are a lot of them).</blockquote>oh no could my argument be turn around and perswad soe to wipe out pvp servers!! <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> wont happen eaither way so there nothing to worry about. Most pve issues still affect pvp servers and soe has enough resorces to make expantions so they should be able to fix them. pvp issues are fixed occationly but there not a prioity for soe.</blockquote>Again, could you come up with an argument that can't be used in the exact same context against you? There's nothing to worry about because SOE would never wipe out PvE servers.<span style="color: #ff0000;"><b>i was refering to both pvp and pve server there both safe</b></span>Most PvP issues that get "fixed", have their "fixes" get pushed over to PvE servers and screw us over. </blockquote>The heart of my point is, even if you dont know it, forcing you onto a pvp server will make you happier <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I'm already on a pvp server my motives are largly selfless. yes you could argue we should all be playing pve, but that will mean everyones playing a version of the game with less depth where the whole point is just to get better gear just to boost your parse result and to pose about looking pritty. pvp servers are better not just because you can go out and pvp but because it gives more reason to pve. </blockquote>Seriously Plane just drop it,This is one of, if not the MOST asinine ideas i've ever read on these forums (and i've seen some VERY dumb ideas).  There is ABSOLUTELY ZERO supporting evidence to show that everyone (once forced to play pvp) would be happier playing PvP, You may seem like you never knew the game until you PvPed, but that is YOU.. I still play PvE, and if my PvE server got turned into PvP, that character would be deleted, hes there as a play char when I simply don't WANT to bother killing other people. Sorry but you seriously lack the abilities of an open-minded individual if you think that PvP would be accepted by all if they all had to play it (its their money, let them do as they please playing PvE, just as I do with my pve alt).P.S. I seriously suggest this thread be locked as soon as possible and I have reported it as such being unconstructive, as said before, absolutely nothing good can come of this, please lock it.

[Plane]

<cite>Soulforged@Unrest wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>If you're already on a PvP server suggesting this your motives are entirely SELFISH, you should learn the difference. You want dev's to pay more attention to you, and you don't care what price other people of different playstyles of you have to pay.PvE servers already have a method of going out and getting better gear, it's called raiding. And it is extremely more interesting (which is saying a lot, considering how bad current raiding is) than going out to PvP and listening to whiny people complain their a**es off that their class is broken, that so and so player is unfair, and any other reason that people come up with for their horrible playing.</blockquote>i never refered to pvp gear. its more satifying to know when you ge a nice peace of gear raiding that you can use it later in a pvp context which was my intended point. as for me being selfish! thats hurtful come to a pvp server and say that! /joke youd kill me with your raid gear :S

[Plane]

<cite></cite><blockquote>P.S. I seriously suggest this thread be locked as soon as possible and I have reported it as such being unconstructive, as said before, absolutely nothing good can come of this, please lock it.</blockquote>lol did i read this right you repoted this thread and they edited your message?

[Aurumn]

Here's a different argument for you...If there were only 3 PvE servers (1 exc, 1 rp and 1 standard... to mirror Vox, Venekor and Nagafen) and <b>all</b> the other servers were PvP with nice big populations... I'd roll on one of the 3 lonely PvE servers. You know why?... I don't want the hassle. I have recently enjoyed a little PvP in other games and when it is in a controlled environment with boundaries I can get a kick out of it. Change things up so I randomly get smacked while lazily gathering roots on my way to a quest update because somebody else was bored killing mobs and I'm gone. Mitigate things with the ability to flag yourself as PvE or PvP, or restrict it to certain contested zones and it's at least manageable. Turn Unrest into Nagafen? NO thanks. At least mobs don't camp the revive spots and dance on your corpse after kills in PvE.

[Kiara]

Sorry guys, this is a fruitless and trolling thread. We won't be continuing the discussion.We do our best to support all styles of play and we won't be "forcing" anyone to anything "for their own good."