Ideal Assasin group in a Raid - what classes and why?

[Rothgur]

<p>Hi Guys</p><p>My guild have asked me a very simple question that I honestly dont know the answer to, what classes should I be grouped with in a raid to maximise my dps?.</p><p>In an ideal world, what classes and the reasons why would be really good to understand.</p><p>Currently I'm in the MT group with a Guard, templar, dirge, mystic and coercer.</p><p>Cheers</p>

[Brimestar]

Well from the sound of it its not a bad make up...Dirge is a must for sure cos their buffs are designed for melee classes (troub mage). Coercers have a nice DPS buff as well to give to you. Can't say about mystics, but I know defilers have a cast that increases your DPS as well.

[-Arctura-]

(( Illys give huge buffs for melee classes... mystics bolster is nice too <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Soulforged]

Illy is way better for us than coercer.Dirge is a mustInq is a very nice healer for us, as they also have some nice dps buffs. (Fury works too, as long as you get feral)Defiler is nice to have for some DoT procs and RoA.I'll say guard or zerker, odds are you wouldn't be given a defiler and inq unless theres a tank in the group. Zerker would give you better dps buffs, but guard could help if your raid tank sucks and you have agro problems.Last slot would either go to a fury or templar (increased proc chances). Though most poeple won't put two clerics in the same group. It would help a bit to have  either a wizard or warlock for proc buffs, but again, most people won't put a wiz/lock outside the mage group.A monk in the raid is very nice, doesn't have to be in the group though. A bruiser would be decent to have as well.Same with a troub w/ mythical in the raid, PoTM procs off of detaunt.Coercer in the raid is nice, because they can give the decrease agro gain buff across groupsIn a MT group setting: Standard MT groupGuardianAssyTemplarInquisitorCoercerDirgeSo I would say in a OT group setting:ZerkerAssassinInquisitorDirgeIllusionistDe filerOr you could be put in the mage groupFuryWizzyWarlock/conjieTroubyAssyIllyPersonally, I love being put in the mage group, they all have some sort of nice melee procs that all go to me <img src="/smilies/283a16da79f3aa23fe1025c96295f04f.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />Plus, with dirges who have mythicals, you don't even miss out on CoB anymore.

[Ranja]

<p><span style="color: #ff0000;">Mage group FTW</span>.</p><p>my usual setup is troub, illu, warlock, conjuror/necro, me and fury/inquisitor or occasionaly mystic. i wouldnt exchange it for anything else (Haste, DPS on cap here so im getting the most of AA aswell, melee procs etc. + group deaggro)</p><p>i was trying Ot group aswell where was dirge, zerk, swash, mystic, templar ... but it wasnt any good.. so im not really bothered about dirge, got CoB twice per fight so thats enough.. so no dirge is NOT a must <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />(at least for me <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" />)</p>

[Soulforged]

<p>When your dirge gets their mythical, and thus gets one of their group spells to give +10% ca damage, combined with their other group buffs (hopefully using full dps buffs, and not stacking tank buffs) then the melee dps group will be better for us than the mage group.</p>

[Undorett]

I put our assassin in a mixed group normally consisting of a dirge, troub, mystic, assassin, wizard, and illusionist.  Can't go wrong with +70% double attack (i think that is accurate with the mystic there...I will have to look into it), 20% spell/melee crit, insane haste, +dps mod, wizard procs, base damage from the dirge mythical and marrow's song, and +3% procs from the mystic.  This is likely your ideal setup, well an inquisitor works well too but we do not have one.  If you cannot get this, then you will at least want an illusionist and dirge, and whomever else he is willing to give you.

[Blindrage#2]

<p>My ideal group would be, Mystic, Templar, Zerker, Illusionist, Dirge, Assassin.  Keep in mind these toons all have thier mythical.</p><p>Mystic - RoA, Proc %, Dbl Atk from Myth</p><p>Templar - Haste, + skills, Fast Cast</p><p>Zerker - Str, Dps/Haste proc</p><p>Illy - Haste / IA</p><p>Dirge - Str, dps, dbl atk, dktm, allegro, +10% CA dmg and 5% reuse from marrows song and mythical.</p><p>Keep in mind gear wise you want +MC > +CA > +DA</p><p>I would also recommend running the Rager Whetstones on both weapons as well as Expert's Tactics for +10 more MC, as well as bloodthirsty choker(from last named in SoF) at all times except on trak / byzola / avatars.</p>