Ocello
10-10-2008, 04:16 AM
Can we take a look at Stifling Palm and Dragonfire?I mean seriously, these are supposed to be class defining spells for every class. And I don't see a single fighter spell of their tier i wouldn't rather have. A Bruiser's Savage Assault (an aoe similar to our Five Rings) owns, and Knockout beats Dragonfire hands down. A Zerker gets Turmoil when we get Stifling Palm and freaking JUGGERNAUT when we get Dragonfire. A Guardian gets Sentinel Sphere and DECIMATE. BTW Decimate debuffs a mob's Defense, parry and deflection by 77 at M1. It also does over 1500 top-end damage. Hope you are jealous. A Paladin gets Verdict and Castigate, both aoe spells---oh and Castigate cures the paladin too.A SK gets Devouring Mist (AE mit debuff/buff) and Contagion (another AOE damage dot...prob the next worst of all fighter specials)Monks get:Stifling Palm, which does very minmal damage with a Stifle...and it doesn't stifle epics. Oh and it is our most power-costing CA;And Dragonfire, a barrage aoe spell that does weak DOT damage and slows casting speed. Do mobs even have cast timers???Stifling Palm especially needs an upgrade. I mean heck throw a big nasty debuff on it, something like -50 to offensive or defensive abilities. Or an attack-speed debuff since that's what we do.And as far as debuffs go, Biting Cobra is a nice spell until you look at other debuffs: a 19 Defense debuff at M1 is all but worthless. Thanks.When raids only run 2-4 fighters, we need all the utility we can bring to the table. Heck even debuffs work well. I was asked what the benefit of bringing a monk would be over bringing an extra brigand...and i was dumbfounded....we offer no utility outside of the Raid haste. No debuffs, no group buffs. What the heck?! All I had to offer was my DPS and Kerran debuff. Our tank doesn't die much, so being another tank isn't really a great answer. Especially when I can really only tank for about 12 seconds...And please don't get me started on our Offensive stance and the haste curve that clearly screws over monks, since all we buff is haste.Anyone else agree?