Pre VP DPS Expectations

[celwe]

Hi AllAs the title states I'm wondering what kind of DPS numbers you guys have posted pre-VP or higher zones OR pre-Avatar gear.My stuff:Fabled Epic + Segmenter (vamp pommels)Adept 3 CAsFood/ Drink/ Potions/ Temporary AdornmentsEtc.Shard of Hate Trash - 3.5k to 4.4k is my Average Range with the odd 4.8k and 4.9k spike.This post isn't to promote an ego contest.  I'm just trying to see how much more I can squeeze out of my toon before we get into some better gear.Thanks in advance.Snowsquall Swift'saberShades of Destiny, Butcherblock

[Jida]

What is your normal group makeup?

[celwe]

I am normally grouped with :InquisitorDirgeRangerOur other BrigandMyselfThe last spot tends to be one of our Pallies.This is my group (Scout DPS  Group) about 80-90% of the time.Also I use Tender Seed Poison alot.

[Jida]

Your group makeup sucks2 brigs in 1 group FTL.See if they will change it so one brig goes into the mage dps group with a troub and an illy (or hell take the ranger and smack him in there)in your gorup , depending on the lenght of the fight, and your gear / mastered spells, you should hit at least 4k consitantly.Here are the better groups.Outrageous would be<p>Brig (Me), Dirge, Illy, Troub, Warlock, Mystic</p><p>I would get ancestry,be Jcap immune 100% of the time, Haste, Double attack.</p><p>Warlock would get Tandem and TC, be Jcap immune 100% of the time.Both would get the uber dirge / troub buffs.</p><p>Illy would get ROA every time its up.</p><p>I think I could do at <b>least </b>7-9k zone wide in Shard of hate with this group on trash.</p><p>Balanced group would be (offtank group)Brig (Me), Dirge, Illy, Zerker, Mystic, Cleric</p><p>I would get ancestry, Jcap, Haste, Double attack, group cleric HP buff, and fast spell casting whenever its up (Cleric).</p><p>Zerker would have a great offtank group (minimal xfers/max dps) and could tank / dps out hardcore.</p><p>Illy would get ROA whenever its up.</p>

[TheSpin]

<p>Raid setup can have a dramatic increase or decrease in your dps, but every raid/guild has diferent resources and methods.</p><p>Jida's talking about a group with 1 or 2 real dps classes and 4 support type classes, while you (OP) have 2 support classes and 4 dpsers.  Both ways work...usually it's easier to get the 4 dpsers than the 4 support classes.</p><p>4k average is not bad in T2 raid gear with only a dirge and inquisitor for support.  There are probably a few small things you could do to improve, but there always will be.  Without knowing more specifics about your playstyle, spec, or gear I don't really know what areas you might want to look into for improvement.  If you're consistant with those numbers and are proficient with other duties such as using your debuffs effectively it is safe to say that you are a solid asset to your raid/guild.</p>