Combat arts / Spells casting DELAY since fix!!!

[tikasa]

As posted in another area look and feel I bellieve, Since the last FIX, there is a delay in using hotbars.   <u><b>Sometimes it is 1-2 seconds before they will cast or they will stop at 99% for 1-2 seconds then complete.</b></u>    On my raid last night in VP  7 out of 24 were having this issue that have never had it before.   In my boyfriends raid to SoH all of the healers and chanters were noticing the same issue.    Crashing is becoming more frequent on people that have NEVER HAD ISSUES before and no changes were made on their end.  

[jasinner]

I am also experiencing this problem since last LU. It does not appear to be linked to ping at all. There is a noticeable lag between when a spell is clicked and when it starts casting. In addition. Spell casting timers are increased beyond what the spell information reads. Not very noticeable on mage, huge difference on scouts with quick casting CA's. The ca's on my assassin are .3 seconds and they are actually taking about 1 second to cast each. This has severely nerfed my DPS when grouping and raiding from 1500-3000 dps. Appears to be some sort of UI bug or some other bug in the game engine.

[TSR-TrevorG]

Have you swapped back to the default UI at all with the /loadUI command and seen the same issue?

[Banadux]

<p>I found this looking around and no info on it.  I use the default UI and I am experiencing this symptom.  My ping shows < 200 via the F11 GUI, but I'm see large lag spikes on combat arts and spells.  Is there another thread on this?</p><p>I just wanted to add that I'm getting about 45 FPS also and the game runs nice and smooth it just isn't responsive when casting or using combat arts.</p>

[Faenril]

Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.

[TSR-DanielH]

<p><cite>Faenril@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.</blockquote><p>Based on your description it sounds like a router issue.  Are you using a router with your current system?  If so, then you may want to try bypassing it temporarily to see whether or not the conenction problem goes away.  If that corrects the problem then I would advise setting up your router with the following information</p><p><a href="http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://www.portforward.com/english/...routerindex.htm</a></p><p>Simply select your router and then select Everquest 2 and you will see a walkthrough on how to complete the process.</p><p>Let us know if the issue persists after trying the above.</p>

[Faenril]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Faenril@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.</blockquote><p>Based on your description it sounds like a router issue.  Are you using a router with your current system?  If so, then you may want to try bypassing it temporarily to see whether or not the conenction problem goes away.  If that corrects the problem then I would advise setting up your router with the following information</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.portforward.com/english/...routerindex.htm</a></p><p>Simply select your router and then select Everquest 2 and you will see a walkthrough on how to complete the process.</p><p>Let us know if the issue persists after trying the above.</p></blockquote><p>Thanks for the hint I will give it a try.</p><p>What do you mean with "bypassing it temporarily" ? How do you "bypass" router ?</p>

[Zorastiz]

<p>I think this is another remnant of the new expansion, not only am I crashing but I am having spell cast freezes just like the OP, all of us can't simultaneously be having router issues, no offense intended, additionally I am not the only one in my guild that is having this same problem.</p>

[Faenril]

Ok I did the port forwarding thing. Good news are it did not break anything at least <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /> I had a little less lag yesterday, but it's difficult to say if this is the direct consequence of the port forwarding, since i played in a different zone as the days before, and probably ppl are now also spreading more in TSO zones, and not only Moors, so could be that the server side lag was better overall. Wait and see ...

[Faenril]

Ok after a few days cool down period I can state it did not help. While instances look rather lag free, ROK open zones like KJ are pretty awful. This sounds like good old server lag to me.

[jaguarjp]

<p>I am noticing this as I play in Kylong Plains, also. It seems like I cannot click the next CA button as the first one is casting, or at least not as reliably and smoothly as I usually do. There is a definite pause between the initiation of a combat art, and its execution, and it didn't seem to be there (at least not to a noticible extent) before the last patch/hotfix).</p>

[Avanya]

<p>I was having this issue so badly that my spells were taking 1 and 1/2 to 2 times their normal time to go off.  In the last 3 or 4 days, suddenly my spells were going off regularly again.  OMG I am SOOO knocking on wood atm (literally).  I am so relieved...people were dying (including myself) because my heals were taking so long to hit.  I'm not sure what made the change.  I have not changed anything myself except my regular profit updates.  I just hope it keeps up!</p>

[Tkyle1]

<p> My wife and I are also having this problem as well as a couple of people in our guild. Takes so long for CA's and Spells to go off I've found myself clicking them over and over thinking I didn't click them. I've heard others complain about this in our guild and in /ooc chat also. We've stopped questing in the Moors over this and hope a fix comes soon. =) </p><p> Also does seem like other zones have been more laggy since the exp.</p>

[acable]

<p>Here is another thread about Moors of Ykesha.</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=437510" target="_blank">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=437510</a></p><p>Lower tier zones play fine for me, whenever i hop into moors, i get the combat art lag.  I almost die fighting a blue con mob because my CA's dont cast properly.</p><p>I've bypassed my router and plugged straight into the DSL modem,  my ping is <170 according to the F11 stats, my FPS is around 50, and i switched to the default UI.</p>

[Ristan]

<p>I am experiencing this as well, however for me its more like a 5 second lag.  I only get this spell lag in Moors.  Coupled with the stuns and dots the mobs there do, I ususally die alot.</p><p>I ususally run at 40-50 fps.  I have not had this problem previously and as stated I only have this problem in Moors.</p><p>I am not the only person in my guild to experience this, almost everyone is having the same issue, our healers have stoped even going to moors due to spell lag and deaths.</p><p>I have tried all the suggested work arounds in this thread, and nothing has helped.</p><p><img src="http://kyrainetheranger.tripod.com/starsigone.gif" width="432" height="130" /></p>

[Terron]

<p>I also get control lag every time I am in Moors, but not in any other zone, even the new instances, just Moors.</p><p>Because of it I spend little time in Moors currently.</p>

[acable]

<p>Is this issue being looked at? I would really love to play the new content that i paid for. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[TSR-DanielH]

<p>A certain amount of lag is probably due to the sheer amount of people accessing these areas at once.  That said, you may be able to lessen the effects by making sure your router is configured correctly and by scaling back some visual settings(particle effects primarily).</p>

[acable]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>A certain amount of lag is probably due to the sheer amount of people accessing these areas at once.  That said, you may be able to lessen the effects by making sure your router is configured correctly and by scaling back some visual settings(particle effects primarily).</p></blockquote><p>I still had the lag connected directly to my DSL modem, with the graphics set to extreme performance, and on the default UI.</p><p>Also, It didnt make a difference if i was in Moors of Ykesha or Moors of Ykesha 2. Both were laggy when using combat arts.</p><p>All other zones that i have been in work fine for me.</p>

[acable]

<p>When i get home tonight, i will run FRAPS and record what happens both in Moors and in a few other zones. <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p>

[Sarriss]

<p>I would like to state that me and my wife also get nasty lag in Moors, and only moors.</p><p>No problems in RoK, instances, older content, ect... just Moors. and the problems in moors only happens when the zone is above 65 or so people.</p><p>We get the same results in several connection configurations, on my older computer, her higher end computer, sharing the connection, wireless, using my mother-inlaw's connection, default UI, Profit UI, min graphics, max graphics (we skip this on my older computer) ect...</p><p>What this tells me is that, while the zone may be designed for 100 people, the servers are not. I remember this happening before after an expancion. Think KoS, EoF, and RoK all had this issue when they started, only thing is that they had several zones to diffuse it, that's not an option in TSO.</p>

[Xethren]

<p>Yes this lag between the click of the spell, and the cast is getting really bad and has killed me a couple times because root or stun was not going off when it should have been. Please fix this!!</p>

[Zorastiz]

<p>The good news is I have stopped crashing to desktop, but this spell casting lag, freeze thing is still there. Nevermind Moors I am working on an old alt, level 32 now in Nek forest, Enchanted Lands etc where there are almost no other people.</p><p>Tried the router thing to no avail, swapped lan cards, nadda! Can't figure this out.</p>

[S_M_I_T_E]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Faenril@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.</blockquote><p>Based on your description it sounds like a router issue.  Are you using a router with your current system?  If so, then you may want to try bypassing it temporarily to see whether or not the conenction problem goes away.  If that corrects the problem then I would advise setting up your router with the following information</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.portforward.com/english/...routerindex.htm</a></p><p>Simply select your router and then select Everquest 2 and you will see a walkthrough on how to complete the process.</p><p>Let us know if the issue persists after trying the above.</p></blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">I'm having problem where a known ISP-level bandwith issue for an entire section of my neighborhood is slowed down but am wondering if this "Port Forwarding" will get around that issue.  </span></p><p>3-4 days ago my gaming and general internet experience was fine, then it went downhill and I called and had it confirmed that my ISP is having technical issues on their end.  Not my PC, router, etc. but something 3-cities away/satelitte this or that or whatnot.</p><p>The game functions normally other than "button" pressing lag and my Ping hovers around 1500 on the F11 tool.  It just seems strange that I can see, move, zone.etc. just fine but if I type or press anything there is a severe input time lag. </p><p><span style="font-size: small;">Will port forwarding get me around my ISP's problems or should I just wait it out till they get their act together?</span></p>

[Rothgar]

<p><cite>S_M_I_T_E wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Faenril@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.</blockquote><p>Based on your description it sounds like a router issue.  Are you using a router with your current system?  If so, then you may want to try bypassing it temporarily to see whether or not the conenction problem goes away.  If that corrects the problem then I would advise setting up your router with the following information</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.portforward.com/english/...routerindex.htm</a></p><p>Simply select your router and then select Everquest 2 and you will see a walkthrough on how to complete the process.</p><p>Let us know if the issue persists after trying the above.</p></blockquote><p><span style="font-size: small;">I'm having problem where a known ISP-level bandwith issue for an entire section of my neighborhood is slowed down but am wondering if this "Port Forwarding" will get around that issue.  </span></p><p>3-4 days ago my gaming and general internet experience was fine, then it went downhill and I called and had it confirmed that my ISP is having technical issues on their end.  Not my PC, router, etc. but something 3-cities away/satelitte this or that or whatnot.</p><p>The game functions normally other than "button" pressing lag and my Ping hovers around 1500 on the F11 tool.  It just seems strange that I can see, move, zone.etc. just fine but if I type or press anything there is a severe input time lag. </p><p><span style="font-size: small;">Will port forwarding get me around my ISP's problems or should I just wait it out till they get their act together?</span></p></blockquote><p>First off, you really had me scratching my head.  I'm reading this thread wondering what could be causing CA lag since GU51 until I realized the date on this thread is from last year!  Don't scare me like that!  <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></p><p>Now to answer your question.  If your ISP is experiencing some issues, port forwarding or bypassing your router will not make any difference.  These solutions generally only fix issues with hardware inside your house.  Once the signal leaves your house, through whatever means, its going to be at the mercy of your ISP.  I hope they get your problems cleared up soon! </p>

[ArivenGemini]

<p><cite>TSR-DanielH wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p><cite>Faenril@Nagafen wrote:</cite></p><blockquote>Same here. Since a few days (weeks?) I have 1 - 2 sec delay sometimes on spell cast or at spell cast completion. That's very annoying, can we get a list of points to check in case of lag. My ping is about 300. Not great but not unusual to me either, and it did quite OK up to now.</blockquote><p>Based on your description it sounds like a router issue.  Are you using a router with your current system?  If so, then you may want to try bypassing it temporarily to see whether or not the conenction problem goes away.  If that corrects the problem then I would advise setting up your router with the following information</p><p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/routerindex.htm" target="_blank">http://www.portforward.com/english/...routerindex.htm</a></p><p>Simply select your router and then select Everquest 2 and you will see a walkthrough on how to complete the process.</p><p>Let us know if the issue persists after trying the above.</p></blockquote><p>Based on his description it sounds like EXACTLY what happened to me on the release of ROK and the release of TSO... in the new zones for each of those expansions i had exactly the same problem..  heck in some cases i would have stuff take effect out of order.. and if your casting order requires a stun on the mob BEFORE they turn to face you..its kinda bad when the stun takes effect AFTER..</p><p>And in both cases, for the most part, after about 2 months that lag has disappeared for me.. though it does rear its ugly head from time to time in the moors for me.</p><p>Plus I would hazard to say that it happening out of the blue, with the odds of people changing their router configuration pretty low, and then going away again after a length of time.. that its most likely NOT a router issue.. especially not with multiple people in a raid getting the problem at the same time.</p><p>Each time I have had this problem my controls of my character were responsive.. I could move around, turn, chat, etc all without noticible lag.. it is JUST combat arts/spells that were affected.</p>

[ArivenGemini]

<p><cite>Rothgar wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>First off, you really had me scratching my head.  I'm reading this thread wondering what could be causing CA lag since GU51 until I realized the date on this thread is from last year!  Don't scare me like that!  <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" /></p></blockquote><p>I still get the combat art lag from time to time in the Moors Rothgar.  As recently as 3 weeks ago.  I dont play there that much solo any more just to avoid the complications if the lag returns.</p><p>I have noticed a bit of it in lavastorm of late.. but I kinda figure that with lots of people in zone, and multiple instances of lavastorm, that its going to be having the same issues moors and ROK have had when THEY came out.  Though I have to say that it hasnt been as bad in LS as it was when those two expansions came out.  In contrast, when ROK came out I nearly ended up quitting the game over how bad the CA lag was... now?  i am just avoiding lavastorm til the fervor dies down...</p>

[ganjookie]

<p>Ariven</p><p>The first comment you are responding to are over 4 months old.  Things have changed since then.</p><p>After8+ hours of play in groups and solo new and old zones I am running fine still.  ProfitUI and wireless net connection too btw.</p>

[ArivenGemini]

<p><cite>Kithal@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Ariven</p><p>The first comment you are responding to are over 4 months old.  Things have changed since then.</p><p>After8+ hours of play in groups and solo new and old zones I am running fine still.  ProfitUI and wireless net connection too btw.</p></blockquote><p>Things have indeed changed since then, but that doesnt change what I said.</p><p>1) the odds of that many people experiencing the problem at once and all of them having done something to their router configurations to CAUSE it to happen is pretty darn astronomical.  Most general users I know dont go fiddling around in their router configurations.. therefore while I can see it being something that a single person could run into, a batch of people, as described, means that something other than an identical router issue on each and every one of them is likely the culprit.  Thus my reply saying that.</p><p>2) while some things have indeed changed since then, as my second post states its STILL HAPPENING.  Thus this is STILL a relevant topic.  It may not be happening a lot, but the fact that it is still happening.. and still an issue means that it is something that should be looked at and not dismissed merely because it occured some time ago.</p><p>In fact, I would hazard the guess that unless it DOES get looked at and hopefully fixed?  that the next expansion is going to have the same EXACT problem. </p><p>Personally, my hunch is something related to the systems handling combat art/spell processing is having issues with the sheer number of players doing stuff in a given zone combined with the extreme large size of the zones in the last two expansions.. which is why while I have some hints of the problem in lavastorm of late, its nowhere near as bad as it was in moors and ROK at the height of the problems there..  but thats just me, on the outside looking in, which means its a wild guess based on what I know of computers, databases and servers in general and with no knowledge of how SOE really has things set up.</p><p>And even if I am spot on, I cant fix it.. only SOE can.. and the only way SOE -will- is to be told that they have a problem STILL to this day.</p><p>My router is configured correctly, with ports open as needed for EQ2, my system is a decent spec system with lots of horsepower, decent graphics.. and even on the most streamlined settings in the game I -still- had the problem on release of the last two expansions and -still- get it from time to time to this day.  i.e. its a current problem, it affects more than one person, and it should not be dismissed just because it is to old for you to want to care.</p>

[ganjookie]

<p>Why cant it be an ISP issue that was mentioned.  If one person on the ISP is ahving an issue, tehre is bound to be, I don't know, a batch of people as you say having a problem.  Maybe they have the same ISP, and suffer the same issue.</p><p>There was a problem with AT&T awhile back in 2008 latency issues.</p><p>My bet is on the ISP rather then SOE coding personally.</p>

[ArivenGemini]

<p><cite>Kithal@Permafrost wrote:</cite></p><blockquote><p>Why cant it be an ISP issue that was mentioned.  If one person on the ISP is ahving an issue, tehre is bound to be, I don't know, a batch of people as you say having a problem.  Maybe they have the same ISP, and suffer the same issue.</p><p>There was a problem with AT&T awhile back in 2008 latency issues.</p><p>My bet is on the ISP rather then SOE coding personally.</p></blockquote><p>Good thing I dont have AT&T, and apparantly you just arent getting my point... I sure hope the devs do.</p>

[ganjookie]

<p>no no I got it, just dont agree with it.</p><p>also maybe this?</p><p><a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?topic_id=438233" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/...topic_id=438233</a></p>