Page file size allocation for virtual memory question.

[Angelbound]

<p>Hello everyone, I am finally back with eq2 with upgraded hardware. I dont know alot about computers but im needing to know how to allocate my paging file size for the best performance for everquest 2. I remember long ago when I had less ram I was on the phone with soe tech support and they had me allocate it for better performance, it probably had something to do with the memory leak. Im not sure if there still is one now, anyways I have 1.5 gigabites of ram, if anyone could recommend the allocation for initial size and max size I would greatly appreciate it.</p><p>Thank you for taking time to read my post in your busy lives everyone.</p>

[TSR-TrevorG]

I can only really recommend that you leave it the default setting, but I am sure our other techies can suggest things that would help out.

[Angelbound]

<p>Thanks for the suggestion, I guess for now ill do system managed size, im still looking for answers though if anyone has any thank you.</p>

[asmiro]

<p>system managed adjusts to how much you actually need. which depends on how many background apps you run in the background, like google desktop, etc.</p><p>the ONLY thing i would suggest, is that when you defrag your drive every so often (you DO defrag, right?), you disable the page file completely before you defrag, as the page file sometimes has trouble being moved around with windows.</p>

[Brook]

<p>Microsoft recommended min page-file size to be 1.5x installed ram, and max at 3x installed ram.</p><p>Every system has different things running in the background so thats a stable baseline.</p><p>If your looking for a set number (fixed) that would work for you optimally, try opening task manager and load up everything you normally use at the same time and look at peak memory usage. Set your page-file size to just above that.</p><p>Also if you have more than one hardrive put your page-file on a separate drive from the operating system (this only works well if the drive is on a separate cable/ide or sata controller, and is of an equivalent or greater speed than the drive with the operating system).</p>

[Angelbound]

<p>I dont trust system managed size, I have actually read that it does not work that well for gaming. Now I dont know what you mean by 1,5 the times or 3x, do I multiply it by 2512 ram? I just want to get it right.</p><p> Thank you for the replys everyone it was still helpful but im still a little confused.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Angelbound wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I dont trust system managed size, I have actually read that it does not work that well for gaming. Now I dont know what you mean by 1,5 the times or 3x, do I multiply it by 2512 ram? I just want to get it right.</p><p> Thank you for the replys everyone it was still helpful but im still a little confused.</p></blockquote><p>The new algorithms in use by XP SP1+ and Vista do very well at adjusting the paging sized and uses. Vista with the automatic optimization of the drive as it learns you machine habits work well, as long as you give it time to learn your habits - about 3 weeks of normal use. XP works well also, the only caveat here is to make it a regime to defrag yourdrive regularly, not needed in Vista since it is an automatic task (unless it was turned off).</p><p>You don;t mention the OS - if it is Vista, give it a few weeks to optimize before you start performance tuning</p>

[Angelbound]

<p>That may be but, it does not mean it manages well for gaming. Of course it could be just my opinion and im completely wrong but eq2 also has a memory leak and they had me adjust it long ago for the leak in the first place.</p><p>From my understanding the larger the pagefile is set the better most games will perform, also im on windows xp and just fyi dont trust what microsloft tells you, microsoft has never been that honest and good in the first place.</p>

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Angelbound wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That may be but, it does not mean it manages well for gaming. Of course it could be just my opinion and im completely wrong but eq2 also has a memory leak and they had me adjust it long ago for the leak in the first place.</p><p>From my understanding the larger the pagefile is set the better most games will perform, also im on windows xp and just fyi dont trust what microsloft tells you, microsoft has never been that honest and good in the first place.</p></blockquote><p>from my expierence with Vista since way before the public RC1 drop of the code. Extra large page file do very little besides waste disk space. Gane fine on the boxes I run utilizing the built in algoritms for paging space. The major problem that you can run across is if you cross the hard limit you set on the page file things start to behave erraticly, application crash and possible kernal crashes - you walk up the wall trying to figure out what is causing it, remembering that you set a hard limit on the page file ages ago is the last thing that crosses your mind. </p><p>Bottom line - I am not giving these statements based on what microsoft states, but from personal expierence with my Vista boxes being used as a developmental platform, gaming platform and day to day usage platform. This goes back to the first drop of Vista code to private testers, same with XP</p>

[Angelbound]

Well mine was already set for a long time and I never got a crash, maybe vista is differant but now days if you have vista you want a good amount of ram and those people turn off the pagefile because the ram is much faster and efficent to use in gaming.But whatever was giving you crashes must have been something else if you where using windows xp now if you make it to high of course it probably can.

[Wingrider01]

<cite>Angelbound wrote:</cite><blockquote>Well mine was already set for a long time and I never got a crash, maybe vista is differant but now days if you have vista you want a good amount of ram and those people turn off the pagefile because the ram is much faster and efficent to use in gaming.But whatever was giving you crashes must have been something else if you where using windows xp now if you make it to high of course it probably can.</blockquote><p>the IDE application debugger pointed at page file shortage.</p><p>Properly tuned Vista will run on a 1gb system, have had it running on test boxes from 512 meg to 4 GB on the 32 bit and from 512 to 64GB on the 64 bit systems, have a box on order that will go to 256GB so it will be tested on that one also. The larger memory format machines are high end server boxes that will be rolled into a VMWARE ESX VDI environment when we get done validating the vertical market applications that we deal with. Not to mention it lets us play eq2 on this way super boxes</p>

[Angelbound]

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