Beta for expansion

[Kizee]

<p>How come I have Beta over my avatar? Does that mean that i got lucky and got into beta?  <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/b2eb59423fbf5fa39342041237025880.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p>

[Elorah]

Somehow I dont think that they would advertise it like that....  but who knows....I didnt think that the beta would be starting yet...

[Britefire]

if that means you got in beta, then gratz <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Elorah]

Actually Kiara commented on the Beta forum tag <a href="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/posts/list.m?start=90&topic_id=426928#4759899" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here.</a>...

[Arcueid]

<p>Posting to see if I got the beta tag.</p><p>Noticed I'm a Loremaster, is there an option to change my class/title?</p>

[Elorah]

The basic titles have to do with how long you have been active on the forums is all...  nothing else...  There are some people that have special titles though (if they run a fansite) or a few other various ones....

[Josgar]

Hopefully beta applications go up soon Dx

[Jovie]

amen

[Ulrichvon]

Hmm

[Yimway]

So yeah, I just tested with my 2 accounts.The one with a 'beta' title can see the beta forums, the one without can not.If this means one of them is in beta and one is not, or if it was just a snafu in access writes, I can't actually say...

[M0rticia]

Have they even announced the beginning date of beta testing yet? I looked around and couldn't find any info.

[Kizee]

OMG its gone now!!! Noooooooooos <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/c30b4198e0907b23b8246bdd52aa1c3c.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Kirstie]

Thank you for participating in our Beta Awareness Program (BAP.. say it now with me.. Bap Bap Ba Bap *tap tap*).You've all finished with flying colours and I'd like to let you know our Beta Program is planned to open up in September.(In other words, not yet, but really soon and we'll be really loud and noisy when Beta really opens <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />- K

[thecynic315]

Any way to buy in this year, other then last weeks Vegas trip?

[M0rticia]

Kirstie, I'll give you all my plat and an invite to my uber raiding guild on Unrest if you let me into beta testing! <img src="/smilies/3b63d1616c5dfcf29f8a7a031aaa7cad.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Kiara]

This has been a test of the emergency beta tease system.Had this been an actual beta test, you would have received instructions via email.You may now return to your regularly scheduled pretending to work activities.This was only a test.

[Kirstie]

<cite>Androw@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>Any way to buy in this year, other then last weeks Vegas trip?</blockquote><p>In all honesty, if you didn't go to Fan Faire and you're not an active player on the Test Server your best chance to get into Beta, once it opens, is to keep an eye on the EQ2Players site.</p><p>I don't want your platz or lewts and anyone who says they can get you into EQII Beta for plat or lewtz is lying!</p><p>- K</p>

[TottCophii]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote>who says they can get you into EQII Beta for plat or lewtz is lying!</blockquote><p>There goes my angle... <img src="http://forums.station.sony.com/eq2/images/smilies/e78feac27fa924c4d0ad6cf5819f3554.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></p><p>Back to pyramid schemes and stealing lunch money I guess...</p>

[Amnerys]

I can't get you into the Beta either...but if you have extra plat laying around that you don't need...  <img src="/smilies/8a80c6485cd926be453217d59a84a888.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[Zyxx]

<p>What if you did attend Fan Faire and haven't heard? Is there some way to check on that?  We've been really looking forward to this and so far ..... nothing.</p>

[ke'la]

<cite>Zyxx@Lucan DLere wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>What if you did attend Fan Faire and haven't heard? Is there some way to check on that? We've been really looking forward to this and so far ..... nothing.</p></blockquote>Make shure your Email on your station account is up to date, if it's not then you won't receave an Email because they don't know where to send it. If your email address is wrong I would contact a CM via PM and see if they can send the email again, once you fix the address... also I think you need to Opt into the promo stuff from EQ2 but I am not shure about that part.

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>In all honesty, if you didn't go to Fan Faire and you're not an active player on the Test Server your best chance to get into Beta, once it opens, is to keep an eye on the EQ2Players site.</p></blockquote>Amen! Hopefully this year people participating in Beta will actually "beta" the product instead of using it as an opportunity to note all the Disco. And, then come running to the forums to complain when all kinds of things are broken because it wasn't caught in beta. <img src="/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" />

[TaleraRis]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Kirstie wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite><p>In all honesty, if you didn't go to Fan Faire and you're not an active player on the Test Server your best chance to get into Beta, once it opens, is to keep an eye on the EQ2Players site.</p></blockquote>Amen! Hopefully this year people participating in Beta will actually "beta" the product instead of using it as an opportunity to note all the Disco. And, then come running to the forums to complain when all kinds of things are broken because it wasn't caught in beta. <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" /></blockquote>Because we all know, nothing ever leaves Test broken <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" />

[Spyderbite]

<cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Because we are all know, nothing ever leaves Test broken <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Exactly my point. Very few people play on Test to actually.. well..  Test. Only a handful login to test to provide feedback. And, that's not nearly enough to catch all the bugs before it hits the live servers.Same thing as far as beta goes. For most people it merely a chance at a sneak peek at all the new content and perhaps an edge up on everyone else once it goes live.As I said during the last beta.. there should be a quota for feedback. Submit two reports for every 2 hours played in beta. Miss that quota.. you're out and an invite is generated and sent out to the next person on the list that missed the original cut.

[DisturbedMagg]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Because we are all know, nothing ever leaves Test broken <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Exactly my point. Very few people play on Test to actually.. well..  Test. Only a handful login to test to provide feedback. And, that's not nearly enough to catch all the bugs before it hits the live servers.Same thing as far as beta goes. For most people it merely a chance at a sneak peek at all the new content and perhaps an edge up on everyone else once it goes live.As I said during the last beta.. there should be a quota for feedback. Submit two reports for every 2 hours played in beta. Miss that quota.. you're out and an invite is generated and sent out to the next person on the list that missed the original cut.</blockquote>So what your saying is every two hours we go /feedback hjdashdkjahdkjahdkja twice and still win? Only now SOE has thousands more reports to file through with the same amount of people to do it? The plan is not flawed at all i swear.

[TaleraRis]

<cite>Spyderbite@Venekor wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite></cite>Because we are all know, nothing ever leaves Test broken <img src="/eq2/images/smilies/2786c5c8e1a8be796fb2f726cca5a0fe.gif" border="0" alt="SMILEY" width="15" height="15" /></blockquote>Exactly my point. Very few people play on Test to actually.. well..  Test. Only a handful login to test to provide feedback. And, that's not nearly enough to catch all the bugs before it hits the live servers.Same thing as far as beta goes. For most people it merely a chance at a sneak peek at all the new content and perhaps an edge up on everyone else once it goes live.As I said during the last beta.. there should be a quota for feedback. Submit two reports for every 2 hours played in beta. Miss that quota.. you're out and an invite is generated and sent out to the next person on the list that missed the original cut.</blockquote>But the "Amen!" in your statement seemed to imply that you support them choosing their "guaranteed" pool from the Test server players and Fan Faire attendees. Neither of these two situations assures that someone is going to be a good beta tester.Frankly, having been in the previous betas, I would find merit in your feedback idea. I might extend the time a little. Sometimes it takes going down a quest line for a little longer before you find a bug. Or I might make it X number in a play session. And maybe not out, but a kind of tick is put down and if you get enough ticks over a given number of play sessions, *then* you're out. I didn't always have two things to feedback in 2 hours, since some of it was spent wandering around trying to figure the quest out before I got to where the issue was. Plus one time missing your reports could be a freak occurrence type of thing. But the same behavior over a period of times would be a good indicator that you're not really there to test things out.

[LygerT]

i'd rather they actively seek people willing to do the beta with proper intentions on testing the content and giving feedback than using it as a way to generate more income by selling invites...

[ke'la]

<cite>Lyger@Mistmoore wrote:</cite><blockquote>i'd rather they actively seek people willing to do the beta with proper intentions on testing the content and giving feedback than using it as a way to generate more income by selling invites... </blockquote>Well this year looks like there will be know buy in for beta, it will start with just the most devoted testers from the test server... meaning the ones that accually send in test reports, etc. and Fan Faire attendiees, who did not "buy in" as SoE has spent far more on them this time around then they gave to SoE.

[TaleraRis]

My best friend is an active EQ1 player. He attended Fan Faire. He *never* plays EQ2. How is that going to make him any sort of good tester?

[ke'la]

<cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote>My best friend is an active EQ1 player. He attended Fan Faire. He *never* plays EQ2. How is that going to make him any sort of good tester? </blockquote>The fact that he needs an EQ2 account to Beta EQ2... last I heard... besides I think he will be busy BETA Testing EQ1's expainsion. That said I did not say this would produce good or bad testers, all I said is as far as I know there will be no "Buy In" testers.

[TaleraRis]

<cite>kela wrote:</cite><blockquote>The fact that he needs an EQ2 account to Beta EQ2... last I heard... besides I think he will be busy BETA Testing EQ1's expainsion. That said I did not say this would produce good or bad testers, all I said is as far as I know there will be no "Buy In" testers. </blockquote>Having an account that has EQ2 active on it doesn't mean you actually play it. My friend has All Access. He has an "active" account with many games he doesn't play. If an SWG player has All Access, does that mean they're going to be in any position to test EQ2? And what would attending a multigame convention for the game you play and other games you don't, and being invited to the beta for the games you don't actively play be called except "buying in" to beta for a game you know nothing about?

[ke'la]

<cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kela wrote:</cite><blockquote>The fact that he needs an EQ2 account to Beta EQ2... last I heard... besides I think he will be busy BETA Testing EQ1's expainsion. That said I did not say this would produce good or bad testers, all I said is as far as I know there will be no "Buy In" testers. </blockquote>Having an account that has EQ2 active on it doesn't mean you actually play it. My friend has All Access. He has an "active" account with many games he doesn't play. If an SWG player has All Access, does that mean they're going to be in any position to test EQ2? And what would attending a multigame convention for the game you play and other games you don't, and being invited to the beta for the games you don't actively play be called except "buying in" to beta for a game you know nothing about?</blockquote>Buying-in based on its usage in the post that first brought it up, was refuring to SoE profiting off of selling BETA invites. They did not profit off of Fan Faire, heck after the free game discount the attendee's paid $9 each for the All Access Pass.BTW being a Station All Access Member does not give you access to all the games, unless you have previously bought the game, and applied it to your All Access Acount.As for what it would be called... SWAG is what it's called. Fan conferance attendee's always tend to get beta's and such as they tend to be some of the most dedicated members of the community, and as such are rewarded with BETA access.All Fan Faire Attendee's get BETA access toTSO, EQ1:SoD, FreeRelms and SWG:TCGLast year they got BETA to:RoK, EQ1:SoF, PotBS. and LoN, possably even G&H befor it went belly-up.

[TaleraRis]

<cite>kela wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW being a Station All Access Member does not give you access to all the games, unless you have previously bought the game, and applied it to your All Access Acount.</blockquote>Actually, that's not true. When I started SWG after it was added to All Access, I didn't have to set up an account. It was already flagged on my main account and once I had bought the game, I was able to just log in and play it. Plus taking a look at my account info, with All Access I'm listed as Active for EQ1, EQ1 Mac Edition, EQ2, EQOA, Pirates of the Burning Seas, PlanetSide, Star Wars Galaxies, The Matrix Online and Vanguard. I've bought and installed software only for EQ1 PC edition, EQ2 and SWG.

[Killerbee3000]

<cite>kela wrote:</cite>the buying was referring to rok beta where you could get into buy buying a magazine in the station store, not going to fan faire as a buy in.

[ke'la]

<cite>Gwyneth@Najena wrote:</cite><blockquote><cite>kela wrote:</cite><blockquote>BTW being a Station All Access Member does not give you access to all the games, unless you have previously bought the game, and applied it to your All Access Acount.</blockquote>Actually, that's not true. When I started SWG after it was added to All Access, I didn't have to set up an account. It was already flagged on my main account and once I had bought the game, I was able to just log in and play it. Plus taking a look at my account info, with All Access I'm listed as Active for EQ1, EQ1 Mac Edition, EQ2, EQOA, Pirates of the Burning Seas, PlanetSide, Star Wars Galaxies, The Matrix Online and Vanguard. I've bought and installed software only for EQ1 PC edition, EQ2 and SWG. </blockquote>They have run promos that have given the other games away for free, to all access members, however from the <a href="http://station-access.station.sony.com/faq.vm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">FAQ</a><b> Does the Station Access subscription include the games themselves?</b><p><i>No. You must purchase the software at retail or via a digital download and register a valid account key for each game/expansion you wish to play. For example, if you sign an account up for Station Access service but you have only bought EverQuest and PlanetSide, that account will not be able to play EverQuest Online Adventures unless and until you purchase a copy of EverQuest Online Adventures. </i></p>